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jhill112
01-16-2009, 09:43 PM
anyone have a problem with the lvl 10 not fitting in a rt classic? the agd wed site says it doesn't fit the field rentals or sydarm. :confused:

jhill112
01-16-2009, 10:27 PM
it's goes all the way down the body until it hits the smaller part there before the beech.it will not fit thru that part.my stock bolt fit thru there. :( :cry:

secretweaponevan
01-17-2009, 12:49 AM
it's goes all the way down the body until it hits the smaller part there before the beech.it will not fit thru that part.my stock bolt fit thru there. :( :cry:

You might have to either sand your bolt a tiny bit, or the washer inside your body might have a burr on it that will need to be worked off.

mostpeople
01-17-2009, 01:02 AM
nonono

The lvl 10 fits just fine, if it is not, you are doing something incorrectly, have the correct carriers etc in there right?

No not physically modify any parts.

mostpeople
01-17-2009, 01:03 AM
http://de.youtube.com/watch?v=V0mvr30jKhw

Coralis
01-17-2009, 09:50 AM
I dont know about the rt valve but the rental valve the level 10 doesnt fit because like the op said the hole that joins the dump chamber to the power tube is too small . From what i understand if you have access to a drill press you can drill the hole larger to accommodate the level 10

211
01-17-2009, 04:57 PM
Ive got LVL X in my Classic RT, and it fits fine

jhill112
01-17-2009, 08:31 PM
thanks for the install video,but i have had alot off lvl x bolt's. just never had one in a classic rt. i took the one out of my emag and it would not fit either. there is a hump on the end of the lvl ten and i think that is what is stoping it. the stock bolt is the same diameter all the way down and it fit thru fine. can't see any problems inside the gun.

mostpeople
01-17-2009, 08:39 PM
Bottom line is, you do not need to physically modify any parts. Therefore something is being done incorrectly.

jhill112
01-17-2009, 08:53 PM
ok i put in the white plastic washer,next the carrier,two shims,then the tip.put the bolt on then the small golden spring. put the valve in the body and the bolt stops at the washer inside the body. i even tried putting the bolt by it's self in and it will not fit thru the washer inside the body.

mostpeople
01-17-2009, 09:18 PM
If this is true you now know the problem.

Why this is I haven't a clue because the lvl 10 is designed to be reverse compatible with all RT models including the classic RT.

Coralis
01-17-2009, 09:48 PM
pictures of a rental valve and level 10:
the first picture is down the power tube showing the air passage to the dump chamber (no there are no orings or spacers installed at all)

http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu196/ideogenous/DSCF0122.jpg?t=1232243645

the second picture show the level 10 installed again there are no orings or spacers installed only the level 10 power tip and the level 10 bolt notice it bottoms out and there is still a 1/8" to 3/16" gap between the bottom of the bolt and the bumper
http://i647.photobucket.com/albums/uu196/ideogenous/DSCF0123.jpg?t=1232243725

in conclusion the level 10 wont fit the rental valve without it being modified now im not sure if older classic rts have this problem or not but i suspect its the case with jhills valve.

DamianTC
01-17-2009, 09:53 PM
did you put the new power tube tip on? only thing I can think of

jhill112
01-17-2009, 11:12 PM
yes we think that the bolt is out of tolerance. some are and some are not. small hump down from the foamie is the problem. i bet that if tom kaye was still watching over the shop,this would never have happened. AGD because QUALITY always shoots straight.

athomas
01-18-2009, 11:41 PM
Does it work without a barrel? The outer bolt diameter requires a barrel id larger than 0.685". Another issue is if the body washer gets damaged. You will have to file the hole out so that it is back to the original size. All Automag bodies should handle the level 10 bolt. The only bodies that had issues were some of the Proteam bodies which were a little tighter in the breach.