What's up with this?

[Beemer]

What is this?
Saw this floating around at TB3. Where can I buy one?

Full res in the links. Credit to Redic for the pics. :cheers:

http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/Frame1 (Small).bmp
http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/Frame1.bmp Hi res

http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/Frame2 (Small).bmp
http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/Frame2.bmp

http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/Farame3 (Small).bmp
http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/Farame3.bmp

http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/Frame3 (Small).bmp
http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/Frame3.bmp

http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/Frame4 (Small).bmp
http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/Frame4.bmp

http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/Frame5 (Small).bmp
http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/Frame5.bmp

http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/Frame6 (Small).bmp
http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/Frame6.bmp

[MANN]

looks nice. good to see someone finally come out with one.

[gimp]

Awesome. I'm definitely interested in buying one of those. :ninja:

[DanMan]

Where did you find this beemer? TB3? Is that another forum?

[chafnerjr]

:eek: :eek: :eek:
The as-of-yet (publically) un-named RPG rake perhaps??? If it is I hope to get one as soon as they decide to go production... looks like someone found one or something like it, somehow :ninja:

[Smoothice]

I saw this in some of the pics from tb3. All I know is I want one!!!

Apparently a few guys got to use it and loved it. Tunaman being one of those guys. So if he likes I'm pretty sure I will as well.

Looks to me from the pictures I saw it comes internal lpr ready and with all necessary mounting for electros and pneumatics.

This appears to be Gods gift to the MAG community.

** :hail: Hopefully the above butt kissing is enough to get me on the list to buy one :hail: **

[Smoothice]

:eek: :eek: :eek:
The as-of-yet (publically) un-named RPG rake perhaps??? If it is I hope to get one as soon as they decide to go production... looks like someone found one or something like it, somehow :ninja:

For the record many rpg products were "borrowed" from other already built products. Maybe his "rake" was "borrowed" from this?

I don't know. All I know is I want one!!!!

[chafnerjr]

Heck... i didn't even notice the frame :ninja: Very interesting!

[vim]

I just saw this over at MCB in this thread http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/air-gun-designs/66164-chimera-few-changes-what-do-ya-think.html

[KC]

I love this thread. :D

[Mongoose]

I had the opportunity to play around with this frame/trigger and all i can say is :hail:

Very nicely done and thought out.

I do know that this is NOT a RPG product and was somewhat released at TB3.

[behemoth]

Guys, being personal friends with Pneumagger, i've shot quite a few pneumag frames.

Whoever makes this thing, is doing it right. Feels nice, Trigger is BUTTER. No slop, magnet return is teh secks.

I loved it.

[Smoothice]

Where did you find this beemer? TB3? Is that another forum?

TB3 = Tunaball 3. It was a big East coast event a few weeks ago. There is a thread here and on beo (bigevilonline.com) BEO is where I first saw this frame. And kissed some butt over there as well ;)

http://www.bigevilonline.com/showthread.php?t=487&page=74
http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=242874&page=1&pp=30

[Rudz]

i seen it out and about, very clean and everyone who shot it loved it, when are they supposed to be released? nobody even knew whose frame it was, or whose gun for that matter, whose gun is it? :shooting:

[StygShore]

Damn it, I saw everyone oogling Tunamans gun, and I didnt think it was anything more than a mag with a vert frame, now I'mn kicking myself for not going over to get a closer look at it!!!


Looks to be a lot more room in that frame than in the RPG frames - I seem to rememeber people having to hog out the RPG frames to cram the Pnuemag parts into it - this one deffinately looks liek it was designed around the pneumatics that woudl go inside

Maybe Cyber is getting into the frame business? That looks like one of his kits he added to the raffle at TB3

This must be the Tuna Pnuemag that FRED said he wanted to get - even if he was unemployed


Styg

[KC]

i seen it out and about, very clean and everyone who shot it loved it, when are they supposed to be released? nobody even knew whose frame it was, or whose gun for that matter, whose gun is it? :shooting:

Nope, "nobody" knows anything. ;)

[Mongoose]

Not only is it pneu friendly...but if you look close its also EP friendly. I was really impressed with the trigger...at first when i saw the drawings last year i wasnt sure if i was gonna like it.....But in person its sooo much nicer.

Everyone that had a chance to shoot it had a huge smile on there face afterwords.

these need to go into production ASAP :clap:

[SSP REAPER]

Not only is it pneu friendly...but if you look close its also EP friendly. I was really impressed with the trigger...at first when i saw the drawings last year i wasnt sure if i was gonna like it.....But in person its sooo much nicer.

Everyone that had a chance to shoot it had a huge smile on there face afterwords.

these need to go into production ASAP :clap:
yes they do :cheers:
I need one for my Carbon Fiber mag so I can use my UMF on the EPG...

[BigEvil]

I love this thread. :D


:rofl:

[SSP-SheiK]

this is completely original... i love how people are like, oh hey it must be and RPG copy or something.... :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

i just wish i got to try it out that day :P

[sandfreestyle]

^^^ Lets not take this any farther.


I'm curious as to how EP friendly it is? Like does it have a place for a membrane pad? I can't see one in the pics but then you can't see much of the back of it.

Either way, it's VERY cool.

[SSP-SheiK]

that was probably better left for a PM...


anywho, beemer, did you ever get word of how light this frame is? i want to see how light my mag will be with this on it.

[SSP-SheiK]

^^^ Lets not take this any farther.


I'm curious as to how EP friendly it is? Like does it have a place for a membrane pad? I can't see one in the pics but then you can't see much of the back of it.

Either way, it's VERY cool.
I dont see one... but its new. who ever made it probably wanted to make sure it worked first ;P...

is there enough room for a tickler? it looks like getting to the adjustment will be difficult with the MSV2 right there...

[cougar20th]

I dont see one... but its new. who ever made it probably wanted to make sure it worked first ;P...

is there enough room for a tickler? it looks like getting to the adjustment will be difficult with the MSV2 right there...

My guess's are its a mechanical pnue friendly frame first with some electronic pnue capiblity second. I see what appears to be switch mounting. I couldnt imagine how many different boards you could use for a e-pnue setup each with thier own mountings & on/off switch type & location.

Isnt the tickler once of the smaller lpr's out there So I assume it would fit.

All I know is I want one of these for my current project gun. And im very happy to see the trigger guard isnt a goofy shape like many others now are.

[sandfreestyle]

My guess's are its a mechanical pnue friendly frame first with some electronic pnue capiblity second. I see what appears to be switch mounting. I couldnt imagine how many different boards you could use for a e-pnue setup each with thier own mountings & on/off switch type & location.

Isnt the tickler once of the smaller lpr's out there So I assume it would fit.
The UTB will fit with no problem at all. It uses a seperate switch that you need to mount somehow and then a membraine pad to turn it on. That's kinda where I was going with my innicial question.

[Mongoose]

Venomous Designs is in the process of producing a new grip.....this grip will be perfect for this new frame...."It will house the battery, membrane pad, led light and board.

together with this frame everything will have plenty of room and also keep the stealth look many like.


For the record : i have received many pm's asking if this is one of our frames...IT IS NOT.
But after playing with it and testing it out we have postponed our attempts at producing a frame and instead we are fully endorsing this one. It really is that good :headbang:

Please put Venomous designs down for 30+ frames :D

[Mongoose]

What do the USC Trojans have anything to do with this? :confused: :confused:
they didnt like the frame :)

[SCpoloRicker]

What do the USC Trojans have anything to do with this? :confused: :confused:

Well, they are totally awesome...

/Seriously, we were undefeated this year in water polo
//Also, amateur-ish sock puppet is amateur-ish

[Smoothice]

that was probably better left for a PM...


anywho, beemer, did you ever get word of how light this frame is? i want to see how light my mag will be with this on it.

I'm also curious of weight. Seems to have ule milling EVERYWHERE. In the trigger guard and even some on the trigger!!!!

[SecondRate]

:rofl:

You have to admit that you choose odd times to insert yourself into conversations/threads.
HAHAHA

I suppose I do have an uncanny sense of timing. :spit_take

[Magnus]

I'm also curious of weight. Seems to have ule milling EVERYWHERE. In the trigger guard and even some on the trigger!!!!


4.6 oz bare. :ninja:

[SSP REAPER]

4.6 oz bare. :ninja:
man that's uber light :hail:

[Smoothice]

4.6 oz bare. :ninja:

Nice!! Pm'ing in case you are the man behind this frame.

I want one :dance:

[SSP-SheiK]

4.6 oz bare. :ninja:

:wow:





:headbang:

[Rudz]

Anyone have a vid of the frame for eveyone to see?

Ps

We don't have to fight and argue in EVERY thread....lol

So how much is this frame? Who makes it? Whoever it is, seems to know what they're doing

[MANN]

Who makes it? Whoever it is, seems to know what they're doing

I know someone who was working on one. They mentioned it to me ~ early this year/late last year when I was working on my battery grips. It will be interesting to see who claims this as their work.

[mostpeople]

I know what it is :)

But im not sayin'

:ninja: :ninja: :ninja: :ninja: :ninja: :ninja: :ninja:

[Redic]

very nice pics beemer :ninja:


i had a chance to fool around with this one and it shoots like a dream

might turn me into a pneumager :cheers:

[Beemer]

very nice pics beemer :ninja:

Oh crap my BAD. You said they were free to use..........I will edit my post to give you credit for the pics. Thanks :ninja: :cheers:

[neppo1345]

Had a chance to monkey around with it at Tunaball, amazing feel and setup.

Still confused where the hell it came from... I remember turning around and having a gun shoved into my hands and Josh saying "check this out", touching the trigger and having to sit down to avoid poking eyes out. It left my hands as quickly as it came, I can't remember who grabbed it next....

Still interested in more information...? Anyone? Magnus, do you know more, or are you just jacking us around with a weight?

[BigEvil]

Isn't a Chimera 4.6oz without anything in it?

[Beemer]

Isn't a Chimera 4.6oz without anything in it?

Hmmm.......interesting, now that has me thinking and makes my head hurt. :confused:

[Rudz]

So Magnus, is this your frame? Were you at tunaball? Kinda easy to get lost with that many people.

[Fred]

All I know is I need a new Mag of some sort and I'll be watching this thread closely...

Its what credit cards are for.. :P

[MANN]

So Magnus, is this your frame? Were you at tunaball? Kinda easy to get lost with that many people.

he was there, and more than likely it is his frame. :ninja:

[Mongoose]

So Magnus, is this your frame? Were you at tunaball? Kinda easy to get lost with that many people.

I think i fed him :confused:

[SSP REAPER]

I am curious to know who made this awesome frame as well. Magnus, if it is you; you are a genius my friend. That thing shot super sweet and light at TB3. :cheers: Now I just gotta find out who makes them and when/where I can get my hands on one!!!

[Rudz]

Seriously^^^^^^

And we want vid!!!!!

[SSP-SheiK]

i wish i had video taped Tuna or someone shooting it...

[SSP REAPER]

:dance: yes we do!!! we want vid :headbang:

[Beemer]

What would a frame like this be worth or what would you pay with out the internals???

I heard it would include the trig and some kind of grips.

[Smoothice]

What would a frame like this be worth or what would you pay with out the internals???

I heard it would include the trig and some kind of grips.


I don't know what it would be worth.

But I do know that with that mounting bracket and tapped sleeper lpr hole you are saving AT LEAST $150. Instead of paying a pro to do that for you.

[SSP-SheiK]

What would a frame like this be worth or what would you pay with out the internals???

I heard it would include the trig and some kind of grips.

i hope not the acrylic panels as shown..

[Rudz]

The frame without the pnuematics has to be worth 150 or more with anno, grips, and trigger. The pnuematics add 100 or more depending if you get and lpr or one is provided

The g force frames sold for 200, but this is a lot better looking and seems to match agd spec triggers and doesn't have some oddball grip pattern

[MANN]

I think i fed him :confused:

you did. This is his other screen name.

[Loguzzzzzz]

you did. This is his other screen name.
Not ME! Not ME ! I swear! :spit_take


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Mongoose]

Not ME! Not ME ! I swear! :spit_take


:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :D

[Tunaman]

I am curious to know who made this awesome frame as well. Magnus, if it is you; you are a genius my friend. That thing shot super sweet and light at TB3. :cheers: Now I just gotta find out who makes them and when/where I can get my hands on one!!!If all goes well, I believe I will have some soon. You guys will be the first to know. :D ;)

[Redic]

Oh crap my BAD. You said they were free to use..........I will edit my post to give you credit for the pics. Thanks :ninja: :cheers:






They are free man I was just having fun

Every pic I post from any event I go to are free to anyone I think it is stupid to make people buy them or even ask for the right to use them :cheers: :dance:

[SSP REAPER]

They are free man I was just having fun

Every pic I post from any event I go to are free to anyone I think it is stupid to make people buy them or even ask for the right to use them :cheers: :dance:
and that's why I luv ya :cheers:

[MANN]

Every pic I post from any event I go to are free to anyone I think it is stupid to make people buy them or even ask for the right to use them

careful redic. There are people here that take their intellectual property very seriously.

Which brings up the point of ptp/dw pneumag patient and this frame.

/just sayin.

[zondo]

For those in the know, isn't there a thread on this frame? I feel like it looks familiar...

[BigEvil]

careful redic. There are people here that take their intellectual property very seriously.

Which brings up the point of ptp/dw pneumag patient and this frame.

/just sayin.


I dont think it will be available as a pneumag frame. Probably have to buy all those off the shelf parts yourself.

Tracy and Forest seem to love it at TB3, IIRC.

/just sayin' too.

[MANN]

Tracy and Forest seem to love it at TB3, IIRC.


Thats awesome. anyone know the eta on them.

[SSP REAPER]

I hope soon :clap: I'd love to have 1 or 2 for some projects

[Dirge]

2 here as well!

[TwilightG]

Dang! As if one pneumag wasn't enough ;)

[SSP-SheiK]

They are free man I was just having fun

Every pic I post from any event I go to are free to anyone I think it is stupid to make people buy them or even ask for the right to use them :cheers: :dance:

i still think that pic of myself was worth the $7 that guy charged... although the cd's were $25 :wow:



lol twilight, i wouldnt know what that feels like :P

[Tunaman]

careful redic. There are people here that take their intellectual property very seriously.

Which brings up the point of ptp/dw pneumag patient and this frame.

/just sayin.There is no patent issues. This is an AGD spec frame that will take aftermarket parts. It will not be available with any pnuematic parts installed. You guys will have to do that yourself which will be real hard :rolleyes: . :D ;)

[mostpeople]

Wow looks like a prototype of rogues new chimera frame...

and trigger...

[Smoothice]

it looks like Rogues NEW prototype chimera, and trigger...

What came first, the chicken or the egg?

[sandfreestyle]

What came first, the chicken or the egg?
In this case, CAD drawings. Just don't know who's.

[Mongoose]

it looks like Rogues NEW prototype chimera, and trigger...

Lets all be honest.....It looks like a Angel frame that has been modified to fit a mag......Just like the chimera and while we are on the subject the same way the triton looks just like a CCM frame :D

[Smoothice]

In this case, CAD drawings. Just don't know who's.

CADbury egg? :rofl:

[mostpeople]

Whatever, you all wanted an answer, and I gave it.

Now you all gotta complain about it... at least you have an answer.

[Beemer]

Wow looks like a prototype of rogues new chimera frame...

and trigger...

How so? This has way more. Tapped holes, mounting spots, trig that is magnet mod ready etc....

[mostpeople]

Maybe he made a new one in a CAD program, then used a CNC mill to create it? Like he created all his other Chimera frames?

You are aware he is making a new chimera frame right?

http://www.pblegion.com/showthread.php?t=3378

oh and that trigger looks familiar too

http://www.pblegion.com/showthread.php?t=3845

[BigEvil]

Yeah, that frame does look kinda familiar...

http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s338/BigEvilOnline/freeflow02.jpg

http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s338/BigEvilOnline/freeflow01.jpg


And in case you dont know what this is...

(that says "FREEFLOW" btw).
http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s338/BigEvilOnline/freeflow03.jpg


Come to think of it, the trigger DOES look very familiar also..

http://www.punisherspb.com/images/planet-eclipse-paintball-guns-markers/new-designz-ego-07-roller-blade-trigger-black-md.jpg

(In case you dont know that one, its an 07 New Designz Ego trigger)

:rofl:

Speaking of neat trigger designs...
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31nNTMjk42L._SL500_AA280_.jpg

[BigEvil]

Lets all be honest.....It looks like a Angel frame that has been modified to fit a mag......Just like the chimera and while we are on the subject the same way the triton looks just like a CCM frame :D


Actually, I thought a RPG Chimera was an 'improved' version of the Logic 90* frame.
http://www.pblegion.com/showthread.php?t=3588

(Which it was, no offense to Logic)

Maybe this new one is an improvement also?


**Edit**

What would be even better - is if these new frames are sold for like DIRT CHEAP! Now that would be awesome.

:dance:

[Mongoose]

Actually, I thought a RPG Chimera was an 'improved' version of the Logic 90* frame.
http://www.pblegion.com/showthread.php?t=3588

(Which it was, no offense to Logic)

Maybe this new one is an improvement also?


**Edit**

What would be even better - is if these new frames are sold for like DIRT CHEAP! Now that would be awesome.

:dance:


I stand corrected :cheers:

[mostpeople]

Yeah, that frame does look kinda familiar...

http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s338/BigEvilOnline/freeflow02.jpg

http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s338/BigEvilOnline/freeflow01.jpg


And in case you dont know what this is...

(that says "FREEFLOW" btw).
http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s338/BigEvilOnline/freeflow03.jpg


Come to think of it, the trigger DOES look very familiar also..

http://www.punisherspb.com/images/planet-eclipse-paintball-guns-markers/new-designz-ego-07-roller-blade-trigger-black-md.jpg

(In case you dont know that one, its an 07 New Designz Ego trigger)

:rofl:

Speaking of neat trigger designs...
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31nNTMjk42L._SL500_AA280_.jpg

You're saying rogue copied that frame?

Or you're saying this is the mystery frame everyone is worked up about?

[SSP REAPER]

You're saying rogue copied that frame?

Or you're saying this is the mystery frame everyone is worked up about?
what do you believe? or want to?

I believe what BigEvil is trying to say is that all good things must have an inspiration for a start. It is quite possible that the aforementioned frame/triggers by he who's name we will not say was an inspiration drawn from the previously pictured items. what say you?

[mostpeople]

what do you believe? or want to?

I want to say that BE is saying rogue copied the frame.. playing a joke off my post. I hope he wasn't somehow insulting me with his post, for trying to provide an answer to a bunch of questions.

[Loguzzzzzz]

I want to say that BE is saying rogue copied the frame.. playing a joke off my post. I hope he wasn't somehow insulting me with his post, for trying to provide an answer to a bunch of questions.BigEvil insulting, never! :rolleyes: :D

[Tunaman]

Who cares who copied what anyway. Thats part of the game. The early bird gets the worm.
This new frame is ALOT different than any other on the market. Aftermarket frames that look alike have been around for years. Get used to the competition because it isn't going away. :rolleyes:

[going_home]

Although I'm not a fan of the vert frames I'd like to get one for the new Micromag body.


;)

[Mongoose]

Although I'm not a fan of the vert frames I'd like to get one for the new Micromag body.


;)

You wont be disappointed

[zondo]

Man... I am going to have to start building up my PayPal account.

[xero28]

Great, now I have to figure out which one of my guns I will sell to fund this thing. I didn't read EVERY post, but I don't think the culprit responsible for this one has been named. Whoever it is, :cheers: , can't wait to have one on my Mag.

[BigEvil]

Great, now I have to figure out which one of my guns I will sell to fund this thing. I didn't read EVERY post, but I don't think the culprit responsible for this one has been named. Whoever it is, :cheers: , can't wait to have one on my Mag.

Im about to put an Airwalk and hyperframe up for sale to beef up my paypal account also. The money tree in the yard is a little bare these days :(

[zondo]

Im about to put an Airwalk and hyperframe up for sale to beef up my paypal account also. The money tree in the yard is a little bare these days :(

You didn't scalp your NKOTB tickets in time?

[BigEvil]

You didn't scalp your NKOTB tickets in time?

Well worth paying the $40 NOT to see them. ;)

[Beemer]

Ok quit with the jacking. Which one of you hob nobbers can tell me where to send the cash. :D

Oh screw you guys. I will just go straight to the source. Time for my snack, fresh Tuna fish salid sandwich. :ninja:

[going_home]

Ok quit with the jacking. Which one of you hob nobbers can tell me where to send the cash. :D

Oh screw you guys. I will just go straight to the source. Time for my snack, fresh Tuna fish salid sandwich. :ninja:

I want mine dust black. And whats the price ?
Where do we send the Paypal ?

:bounce:

[zondo]

I want mine dust black. And whats the price ?
Where do we send the Paypal ?

:bounce:

Is there going to be financing? :p

Too bad this didn't come out BEFORE I sent my stuff to PTP for anno... ah, well.

[SSP REAPER]

hopefully everything will be posted up sooner than later... im dyin' ovah hea!!!!

[SSP REAPER]

I am starting to collect pieces for this frame... tickler, rail, body, valve. :bounce:

[Mongoose]

I am starting to collect pieces for this frame... tickler, rail, body, valve. :bounce:

Your missing something :ninja: :D ....and what rail/body you using????

[SSP REAPER]

Your missing something :ninja: :D ....and what rail/body you using????
I was thinking the EPG body you are making, to go along with the EPG Rail and my 1 of 1 TunaBall 3 EPG :D :ninja:
I just picked up a reverse "XValve" x valve :p

[Mongoose]

I was thinking the EPG body you are making, to go along with the EPG Rail and my 1 of 1 TunaBall 3 EPG :D :ninja:
I just picked up a reverse "XValve" x valve :p

Now that sounds like a sweet setup :D

But your reverse X-valve might not work with the EPG....the air line is on the wrong side :eek:

[Doobie]

I too shot this at TBIII and giggled like a school girl. It almost "found" it's way into my truck. I could not believe the ropes i was pulling with this Mech! :eek:
Awesome stuff and a very well tuned set-up.

[Redic]

I too shot this at TBIII and giggled like a school girl. It almost "found" it's way into my truck. I could not believe the ropes i was pulling with this Mech! :eek:
Awesome stuff and a very well tuned set-up.


you were giggling like a school girl a lot that weekend

[Beemer]

Awesome stuff and a very well tuned set-up.

I heard there was still room for more tuneing. :eek: :bounce:

[manwe33]

Its always nice to see new Mag parts coming out. But what the heck is up with the trigger guard? that part of the frame is as ugly as sin. Does not flow with a mag at all. Please some one save this frame from turning into a brown bagger!!!!! REDO THE TRIGGER GUARD PLEASE!!!

[Smoothice]

Its always nice to see new Mag parts coming out. But what the heck is up with the trigger guard? that part of the frame is as ugly as sin. Does not flow with a mag at all. Please some one save this frame from turning into a brown bagger!!!!! REDO THE TRIGGER GUARD PLEASE!!!

:rofl:

To each is own I guess. I find the trigger guard to be WAY nicer then current vert frame options.

Maybe that's just me...

[zondo]

Now that sounds like a sweet setup :D

But your reverse X-valve might not work with the EPG....the air line is on the wrong side :eek:

In that case, I know someone who might take that off your hands SSP....

:D

[cougar20th]

Its always nice to see new Mag parts coming out. But what the heck is up with the trigger guard? that part of the frame is as ugly as sin. Does not flow with a mag at all. Please some one save this frame from turning into a brown bagger!!!!! REDO THE TRIGGER GUARD PLEASE!!!

I will second the each to their own comment that Smoothice made. But the trigger guard is one of the reasons I perfer this to the other options. I like simple normal shaped guards unlike the other vert frame options & unlike alot of the newer guns are coming with. I think the new ego frames look horible with the guard they put on it.

[SSP REAPER]

Now that sounds like a sweet setup :D

But your reverse X-valve might not work with the EPG....the air line is on the wrong side :eek:
I know thats why I also picked up an "Xvalve" x valve, just for the EPG :D

Zondo: I do not plan on parting from this super rare find of a valve anytime soon. When is the last time anyone saw a reverse "XValve" valve? I have seen planty of reverse X's but nothing like this :p

[SecondRate]

Its always nice to see new Mag parts coming out. But what the heck is up with the trigger guard? that part of the frame is as ugly as sin. Does not flow with a mag at all. Please some one save this frame from turning into a brown bagger!!!!! REDO THE TRIGGER GUARD PLEASE!!!
Well here is one guy that probably won't be on the list!
Guess this proves that you can't please everyone!

This really proves that beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I guess you love this trigger guard. . . I personally hate it. . . .Talk about something that looks out of place. (edit)I guess from this angle it does not too that bad, still not my cup of tea, looks too close to a Shocker for me.

http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/7895/valhalla.jpg


Now this!
The curves blend well, they look right at home with the curved back of the frame. These look like they were designed to go together.

http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/Frame5%20(Small).bmp

opinions-gotta luv'em

Just sayin'

[sandfreestyle]

I like the frame and all, but the thing that drives me nuts everytime I look at it is the grip panel overhang right behind the safety. I can't help but see that every single time I see the pics. I sure hope the final piece has either trimmed grips or something.

[KC]

I like the frame and all, but the thing that drives me nuts everytime I look at it is the grip panel overhang right behind the safety. I can't help but see that every single time I see the pics. I sure hope the final piece has either trimmed grips or something.

So im not the only one.

[SSP REAPER]

OK guys, that's enough. Can't we all just get along? If someone bothers you, just ignore them.

[SecondRate]

When are we going to see a video!

Please :hail:

[Mongoose]

I like the frame and all, but the thing that drives me nuts everytime I look at it is the grip panel overhang right behind the safety. I can't help but see that every single time I see the pics. I sure hope the final piece has either trimmed grips or something.

Its a prototype..i'm sure the production frame will have perfect fitting grips. ;)

[Beemer]

When we going to see the video of this thing in action?????????


On a side note if I have to clean up this thread again someone wont be happy. Some have been warned.

[SSP-SheiK]

So im not the only one.

ditto..


OK guys, that's enough. Can't we all just get along? If someone bothers you, just ignore them.

hmm did i miss some drama? :P


i think we should hound magnus for some video.. ;) :p

[SSP REAPER]

ditto..



hmm did i miss some drama? :P


i think we should hound magnus for some video.. ;) :p
yeah just a little bit but it is all cleaned up now. Thanks to the CAPTAIN :argh:
I hope to see some video soon. I know I have been making room for a new frame in my arsenal. :shooting:

[sandfreestyle]

Its a prototype..i'm sure the production frame will have perfect fitting grips. ;)
I sure hope so cause I'm on the fence about one if it stays like that.

[Mongoose]

I sure hope so cause I'm on the fence about one if it stays like that.

I just hope i get one..... :D

[SSP REAPER]

me also :bounce:

[Fred]

I am unsure, that this thread has indeed come to the definitive answer to "What's up with this?"

Continue discussion, post more pics, and vids.

kthxbai.

:ninja:

[SSP-SheiK]

yea updates are few and far between... thats why we've been socializing :tard:

[Beemer]

I am unsure, that this thread has indeed come to the definitive answer to "What's up with this?"

Continue discussion, post more pics, and vids.

kthxbai.

:ninja:


Who has the VID???????



If all goes well, I believe I will have some soon. You guys will be the first to know. :D ;)

[Smoothice]

We need a "This thread is useless without vids" smiley.

Maybe I will make one for just this occasion.

[Smoothice]

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x57/smoothice15/forum%20pics/uselesswithoutvid.gif

[BigEvil]

Almost 4300 views on this thread. WOW.

:eek:

[SSP REAPER]

that's cause we all wanna know when and where to get these :headbang:

[Dirge]

And how!

[SSP REAPER]

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x57/smoothice15/forum%20pics/uselesswithoutvid.gif
X 2

[Rudz]

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x57/smoothice15/forum%20pics/uselesswithoutvid.gif


X3

WE WANT VIDS

[zondo]

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x57/smoothice15/forum%20pics/uselesswithoutvid.gif

All in favor?

[Rudz]

Aye!!!!!

[SSP REAPER]

aye :ninja:

[BigEvil]

:rolleyes:

[SSP-SheiK]

:tard:


i mean aye...

[SSP REAPER]

:rofl: :nono:

[SSP-SheiK]

:cry:





look at how this thread has come to conversations using primarily smilies!

[Mongoose]

I was thinking.......Since this frame will allow us to build a Electro or even EP..without much work at all....were would you put the battery??? or even the membrane pad and led light??? :ninja: :ninja: :ninja:

Just something to think about while we wait for some vids :D

[zondo]

:cry:





look at how this thread has come to conversations using primarily smilies!

Think of it as an evolution of prose... a picture is worth a thousand words, right?

Oh, and :p

[Rudz]

:headbang: this threads full of win :clap:

[SSP REAPER]

I was thinking.......Since this frame will allow us to build a Electro or even EP..without much work at all....were would you put the battery??? or even the membrane pad and led light??? :ninja: :ninja: :ninja:

Just something to think about while we wait for some vids :D
I like the idea of the Venomous Designs EPG Foregrip :cheers: for that specific purpose :p :ninja: :ninja: :ninja: :argh:

[Mongoose]

I like the idea of the Venomous Designs EPG Foregrip :cheers: for that specific purpose :p :ninja: :ninja: :ninja: :argh:


well since the frame will contain the lpr "EP" and no lpr is needed for "E" im thinking something tighter, smaller :ninja:

[SSP REAPER]

well since the frame will contain the lpr "EP" and no lpr is needed for "E" im thinking something tighter, smaller :ninja:
i know you are crafty with these kinda things. I wonder what you have in mind? :ninja:

[Mongoose]

Something like this.......................


http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll108/VenomousDesigns/E-grip2.jpg

[SSP REAPER]

Something like this.......................


http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll108/VenomousDesigns/E-grip2.jpg
sexy, very sexy :ninja: :cheers:
this should go along with an automag length rail for some seriously short and light firepower ;)
Care to make me a copy of solidworks or bring your solid works disc(s) when you come up?

[Mongoose]

This design will fit with a am/mm rail :dance:

[SSP REAPER]

yes !!! i knew it would :p :hail:

[Rudz]

Now gimme some am/mm lenth bodies and rails

[Mongoose]

Now gimme some am/mm lenth bodies and rails

In the works big guy :cheers:

[Rudz]

So I've heard :ninja:

[m0l0t0v]

:ninja: moar smilies. :ninja:

[SSP REAPER]

just waiting on more pics and or video of this thing :sleeping:

[Rudz]

Someone is lagging

[BigEvil]

Someone is lagging


Apparently asleep at the wheel :sleeping:

[SSP REAPER]

Apparently asleep at the wheel :sleeping:
you know it!!! like beemer on his ride home from PA :cheers: :sleeping: :dance:

[Rudz]

naw beemer had autopilot yo, hes the CAPT'N!!!

[SSP REAPER]

very true, autopilot does work beautifully. Still waiting on some more pics and/or video :clap:

[Mongoose]

:cuss:

[pi¤elated]

lol....par for the course for mag aftermarket isn't it?

[Mongoose]

lol....par for the course for mag aftermarket isn't it?

Between the designing then prototyping....followed by some field testing,, and finally going into production...and cant forget the polish and anno....it does take some time....more then i ever imagined before i started making my own parts.

i have faith that these will be well worth the wait :D

[cougar20th]

Between the designing then prototyping....followed by some field testing,, and finally going into production...and cant forget the polish and anno....it does take some time....more then i ever imagined before i started making my own parts.

i have faith that these will be well worth the wait :D

I agree. As someone who works in Product design you would be surprised the time it can take to get things built & into production. Really depends on the availibilty of the designer, machine shop, production shop. And if they take on a huge job while your thinking your screwed. Between design, prototype, changes, 2nd proto (optional depending on changes), Production. It all takes time.

[SSP REAPER]

good things shall come to those who wait. I have faith that this mystery frame will be worth every penny :cool:

[trev_pbller]

Tuna always was and always will be the man :D

[BigEvil]

Tuna always was and always will be the man :D

You got that right.

[Fred]

I srsly want to know... wut is up wif dis? :dance:

[Rudz]

Wheres my Fing video!!!

[SSP REAPER]

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x57/smoothice15/forum%20pics/uselesswithoutvid.gif

and all that second the notion? :argh:

[KC]

ahem. "I"

[Mongoose]

I :clap:

[Beemer]

From the Gnomes, Fairies, Sprites and Elves or a Manfish. :ninja:

http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/NewMagMaticFrame.mpg

[KC]

From the Gnomes, Fairies, Sprites and Elves or a Manfish. :ninja:

http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/NewMagMaticFrame.mpg

:cry: :cry: :cry:

Link doesnt work for me. IE just says it has a connection problem and MFF loads quicktime with a quetion mark.

Checking my settings now...

[nevtangle]

:cry: :cry: :cry:

Link doesnt work for me. IE just says it has a connection problem and MFF loads quicktime with a quetion mark.

Checking my settings now...
I'm getting the same QuickTime ? :confused:

It's happening in Firefox and Safari 4 on a Mac w/ up to date software. Something seems fishy...

[zondo]

:mad: I'm creating a Beemer feedback thread :mad:

:rofl:

It'll only be a matter of time before it's up and sweet.

[Smoothice]

I try it with firefox.

It loads the video. Starts to play the video. But the sound is all jacked up.

Then it crashes firefox...

So I see maybe 1-2 seconds of video before it dies. :cry:

[cougar20th]

Works for me. I just click & it loads into media player. its only about 3 seconds long.

[Smoothice]

Works for me. I just click & it loads into media player.

can you download it and upload it to photobucket or something?

So the rest of us can see it.

[BiNumber3]

I can dl the vid n play in media player, wont play in i.e. 8 tho.

[Beemer]

You all must have retired Elves working for you. It did work for me. Must be the cheap converting software. :(

Here is the .FLV file see what you can do with it.

http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/NewMagMaticframe.flv

[Smoothice]

You all must have retired Elves working for you. It did work for me. Must be the cheap converting software. :(

Here is the .FLV file see what you can do with it.

http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/NewMagMaticframe.flv

That video is short..... and SWEEEEEEEEETTTTT!!!!!!! :headbang: :dance: :bounce: :hail: :cheers:

[Beemer]

Works for me. I just click & it loads into media player. its only about 3 seconds long.

Ah you have the good Elves working for you too. Save target as...............It should play in media player

[Smoothice]

for those that don't want to download. I just uploaded it to my youtube

<object width="425" height="344"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/UE2a8LovD0s&hl=en&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/UE2a8LovD0s&hl=en&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"></embed></object>

[Beemer]

^^^^^^ well hell I could have done that but the mpeg quality is way better but thanks anyway. :argh: :cheers: :cheers:

[splat15k]

Okay I'm convinced...is there a pre-order list I can jump on?

[zondo]

for those that don't want to download. I just uploaded it to my youtube

Now that I booted up in windows, it works.

[SSP REAPER]

Okay I'm convinced...is there a pre-order list I can jump on?
hopefully not too far along...I don't know how much more of this "waiting" i can do :cry:

[Mongoose]

Nice......i want two of them for myself :cheers:

[SSP REAPER]

Nice......i want two of them for myself :cheers:
i second that notion!!! :clap: :hail:

[Dirge]

Third!! :cheers:

[BigEvil]

I have never been a fan of pneumags. Give me a nicely tuned ULT and I would be happy. After I messed with this thing, I have changed my mind.

Im swinging (no pun intended) by Tuna's either tonight or tomorrow on my way up to NH. He said I can bring it with me :clap:

[SSP-SheiK]

your comin up today?!?!

[BigEvil]

your comin up today?!?!

Tomorrow. Should be there between 3 and 4

[SSP-SheiK]

lol i was worried for a sec... ;)

[BigEvil]

Check these out.

First one is me, second one is Mongoose.

http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s338/BigEvilOnline/th_MVI_1659.jpg (http://s509.photobucket.com/albums/s338/BigEvilOnline/?action=view&current=MVI_1659.flv)

http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s338/BigEvilOnline/th_MVI_1661.jpg (http://s509.photobucket.com/albums/s338/BigEvilOnline/?action=view&current=MVI_1661.flv)

[xero28]

:eek: Very nice guys.

[StygShore]

When are these available? I might have to build another mag now


Styg

[splat15k]

Seriously, what's the holdup? These will sell very well based off of the interest shown in this thread alone and clearly the prototype has been around long enough to receive several thousand test shots and even a nice ano. Now there are videos that prove the frame will rock our socks off. At this point, I have to say you're (whoever "you" is) holding out on us...and teasing us to boot.

I hope legal issues aren't behind the delay; that could mean we'll be waiting for a couple more years on top of the 12 years we've already been waiting. Okay, it hasn't been quite that long, but it feels like it. ;)

Regardless, great job on this frame! :cheers:

[Smoothice]

I'm hoping the hold up is for ACTUAL frames.

As a person who was on the g-force pre-order debacle I can safely say I would rather wait for an actual frame to pay for. Then wait for a frame I have already paid for.

Tuna-Whats up? Are these going on pre-order or will they be in stock ready to sell?

[SSP-SheiK]

Seriously, what's the holdup? These will sell very well based off of the interest shown in this thread alone and clearly the prototype has been around long enough to receive several thousand test shots and even a nice ano. Now there are videos that prove the frame will rock our socks off. At this point, I have to say you're (whoever "you" is) holding out on us...and teasing us to boot.

I hope legal issues aren't behind the delay; that could mean we'll be waiting for a couple more years on top of the 12 years we've already been waiting. Okay, it hasn't been quite that long, but it feels like it. ;)

Regardless, great job on this frame! :cheers:

someone obviously doesnt understand what it takes to go from prototype to full production model...

:cheers:

[splat15k]

someone obviously doesnt understand what it takes to go from prototype to full production model...

:cheers:


You'd be very surprised. I work for a company who designs custom test and automation systems and we can design, fabricate, test, and ship extremely quickly.

I think sometimes companies make the process longer than it needs to be (i'm not saying that's the case here).

[Smoothice]

someone obviously doesnt understand what it takes to go from prototype to full production model...

:cheers:

I don't think that has anything to do with his impatience.

It seems to me this product was leaked and not debuted. Beemer is the one that posted pics. Unless this is his frame that means he leaked the product.

So many people (myself included) have been using the start of this thread as the date this product was introduced.

Was it ready to be introduced?

[BiNumber3]

It'll be a sad say when we all find out this is a one-of-a-kind frame not to be reproduced.... *knocks on wood, several times

[behemoth]

It'll be a sad say when we all find out this is a one-of-a-kind frame not to be reproduced.... *knocks on wood, several times

Why would someone invest time and energy and money into making a one off frame when there are so many others available for the mags that would cost a FRACTION of the cost.

[Smoothice]

It'll be a sad say when we all find out this is a one-of-a-kind frame not to be reproduced.... *knocks on wood, several times

I spoke with Tuna a few weeks ago. No specific details were mentioned. But I can safely say this is NOT a one off...

[splat15k]

So to be clear, is this a Tuna product?

[Smoothice]

So to be clear, is this a Tuna product?

according to this thread. Tuna will be the one selling it.

as far as who makes it. I'd like to know that as well.

[SSP REAPER]

:ninja:

[Mongoose]

Well i had the opportunity to test this frame out and i gotta say this thing really does rock :headbang: The trigger pull was butter smooth and very short.

i had Zero chops and/or ball breaks.

No matter how fast i tried to shoot that thing it could not be out shot :dance:

This frame is pure sex.....i have to give it a 10/10 i honestly found nothing wrong with it or anything i would change.

-Goose-

[zondo]

I spoke with Tuna a few weeks ago. No specific details were mentioned. But I can safely say this is NOT a one off...

Is it going to be just the frame or is the trigger going to be included?

[Smoothice]

Is it going to be just the frame or is the trigger going to be included?


http://www.automags.org/forums/showpost.php?p=2638580&postcount=51


I heard it would include the trig and some kind of grips.

I hope the trigger is included. That thing looks great with that frame.

[SSP-SheiK]

You'd be very surprised. I work for a company who designs custom test and automation systems and we can design, fabricate, test, and ship extremely quickly.

I think sometimes companies make the process longer than it needs to be (i'm not saying that's the case here).
well then you should know how "fast" an aftermarket part for a mag is produced, especially when taken into account man power behind it and the process itself... ;)

then again i havent seen a pre-order yet so maybe that means therewill be plenty to go around? hopefully especially with all this interest including my own... :headbang:


I don't think that has anything to do with his impatience.

It seems to me this product was leaked and not debuted. Beemer is the one that posted pics. Unless this is his frame that means he leaked the product.

So many people (myself included) have been using the start of this thread as the date this product was introduced.

Was it ready to be introduced?


Its all about advertisement... :dance:

[SSP REAPER]

and advertise whomever certainly does :dance: :bounce:

[p8ntbal4me]

I got to dry fire this frame last weekend.... its amazing.

I need time to get comfortable with any frame in order to walk a trigger,... but out the gate I was grabbing at least 13-14cps wiithout problems.

All the guys that shot it here in NH loved it.

I was on the receiving end of it a few times and when the paint hit the bunker I had to snap shoot back to get the shots out....


It was well worth waiting to see, feel, and test the hype rather than just following it.

~ P8nt

[splat15k]

Any updates here?

[BigEvil]

Any updates here?


Good question. I will make some phone calls to see what I can find out.

[SSP REAPER]

Good question. I will make some phone calls to see what I can find out.
I'm still in amazement from seeing it in the flesh at the NH game, that thing is pure sex!!! and fast...whoa baby :wow:

[DeuceSV]

I just recently finished this project:

Took the pneumatics and LPR that you see in the first picture, and placed them inside the frame of the second picture, lost the dropforward, and had the cp asa directly mounted under the frame, with the pneumatic hosing going directly through the bottom.
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq228/jtwusaf/utf-8BSU1HMDAxODIuanBn.jpg
http://i450.photobucket.com/albums/qq228/jtwusaf/utf-8BL0RldmljZSBNZW1vcnkvaG9tZS-21.jpg

I will post a pic of the finished project here soon.
So i basically have what is normally called a "sleeper," right?
please correct me if im wrong.

it is soooo smooth.

[splat15k]

Any updates here?

[SSP REAPER]

any at all? :tard: :confused:

[SSP-SheiK]

I

I was on the receiving end of it a few times and when the paint hit the bunker I had to snap

~ P8nt

muahahahaa... are you referring to the hybrid field game? :ninja:

i actually had a chance to play a game with it and it ripped


jtw: yea, thats a sleeper

[splat15k]

Why is this tread dying? Does nobody care about this frame anymore?

[Beemer]

Any updates here?

The fish are biting and looky what I caught. :D

http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/Frames1.bmp

[Ando]

:clap:
Me want

:headbang: :headbang: :headbang:

[cougar20th]

Always love seeing piles of new parts. Especally raw in progress parts.

[Smoothice]

linky no worky on my phone...

anyone else see a purple frownie face?

[Ando]

So...

Beemer...

Who do I need to kill to get in line :p

[Beemer]

So...

Beemer...

Who do I need to kill to get in line :p


Just need a pole and good Bait that Tuna like to make a catch. ;)

[Shirow]

Nice!!!

[snoopay700]

Just need a pole and good Bait that Tuna like to make a catch. ;)
Damn! I sold all my Tuna lures, and i don't have money to buy any more... :(

[kwood]

Just need a pole and good Bait that Tuna like to make a catch. ;)

im interested in buying one
do they come anodized?
do they come with a cyberwave kit?
price?

[Beemer]

im interested in buying one
do they come anodized?
do they come with a cyberwave kit?
price?

Yes and with a trig and full safety assembly. No kit.

Dont know but hear it will be very competitive or reasonable. :clap:

[kwood]

Yes and with a trig and full safety assembly. No kit.

Dont know but hear it will be very competitive or reasonable. :clap:


anodized gloss black?
if so that would make me very happy :D

[Beemer]

Oh ya I forgot, with some kind of grips also. :cool:

Post 58, 69 ;)

[kwood]

Oh ya I forgot, with some kind of grips also. :cool:

Post 58, 69 ;)

i checked back to those thread, and is tuna suggesting that all the holes for a sleeper pneumag set-up will be drilled and tapped already?

[SSP REAPER]

i checked back to those thread, and is tuna suggesting that all the holes for a sleeper pneumag set-up will be drilled and tapped already?
I believe so. I would imagine they would because it has been said that it will be completely ready for your pneu needs. I would assume that means drilled/tapped holes :D
I think it was in the 60's post area. Can't fully remember

[snoopay700]

I believe so. I would imagine they would because it has been said that it will be completely ready for your pneu needs. I would assume that means drilled/tapped holes :D
I think it was in the 60's post area. Can't fully remember
69, Beemer menioned it.

[SSP REAPER]

How so? This has way more. Tapped holes, mounting spots, trig that is magnet mod ready etc....
actually after reading through I found it. Post # 76

[kwood]

awesome :clap:
i will buy one if the price is right
iv got some money ready, and potentially more on the way, so maybe i will buy two... :rolleyes:

[Smoothice]

linky no worky on my phone...

anyone else see a purple frownie face?

well the linky worky on my computer... :wow:

I hope one of those has my name on it :D

[Shirow]

So, back on topic..

If I understand this thread correctly, these will be sold directly through Tuna as of right now?

I am very interested in one - this is an amazing design and will make creating a pneumag way easier.

[kwood]

and when they are sold is there a preorder list or just a mad rush to the store like on black friday

[BigEvil]

Sorry to do this to you guys... :p

http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s338/BigEvilOnline/My%20markers/IMG_1680.jpg

My gun with the prototype on it. (Note Mongoose's Toxic rail :wow: ) I have been putting the set up through the paces since TB3. I also understand that there have been some refinements that are not on this one but incorporated into the production models. I cant say more, but I do think that these are coming soon.

Further note - there had better have a DUST BLACK one lined up for me or this one stays where it is. :cuss:

[kwood]

:mad: jealous
(need i say more)

[BigEvil]

:mad: jealous
(need i say more)

I will get up some people's butt's about this as soon as I can. ;)

[kwood]

i just want to know how much
seriously i will buy one if they are in a reasonable price range

[going_home]

i just want to know how much
seriously i will buy one if they are in a reasonable price range

What does that matter ? :nono:
You know we will all find a way to get one.
Even if it means selling something lol.

:ninja:

[kwood]

What does that matter ? :nono:
You know we will all find a way to get one.
Even if it means selling something lol.

:ninja:

true
like our children for slave labor, and body parts for...science

[Shirow]

true
like our children for slave labor, and body parts for...science

Speak for yourself, I'll just not eat for a week.

[kwood]

i guess that only thing that could make this frame cooler is if someone mass produced those plexiglass all-in-one pneumag kits that i have seen in some threads here
that pneu kit inside this frame...it would make me happy

[Shirow]

Kit form or not, I want one. It's an amazing design. Hopefully it feels good in your hand.

[cougar20th]

Kit form or not, I want one. It's an amazing design. Hopefully it feels good in your hand. Having messed around with it some when it was at the NH game I can say it does feel good. Trigger was excellent.