recharge question

[stump68]

i have a stock minimag that im making into a pnue-mag! im using an etek ego frame! the frame is on im waiting on the pnue parts to get here!! my question is to what bps is the stock mag valve good to?? any help would be greatly appreciated! i hope to have some pics up soon! also would it be worth my while to get a ule on/off and if i do what would i need to change to make it work

[deathbypaint1213]

i have a stock minimag that im making into a pnue-mag! im using an etek ego frame! the frame is on im waiting on the pnue parts to get here!! my question is to what bps is the stock mag valve good to?? any help would be greatly appreciated! i hope to have some pics up soon! also would it be worth my while to get a ule on/off and if i do what would i need to change to make it work

Classic valves are rated to around 15 bps before shootdown. A ULT would not be effective in a classic valve. Throw in an RT on/off to achieve a softer pull (lower LPR pressure needed to trip the sear).

[stump68]

Classic valves are rated to around 15 bps before shootdown. A ULT would not be effective in a classic valve. Throw in an RT on/off to achieve a softer pull (lower LPR pressure needed to trip the sear).
where would i accquire on of those??

[deathbypaint1213]

where would i accquire on of those??

You can pm Tunaman on here, he can set you up with one. You can also order an rt on/off straight off of AGD's website.

[Spider-TW]

Since you said ego frame...are you planning a mech pneu or an electro pneu?

[stump68]

Since you said ego frame...are you planning a mech pneu or an electro pneu?
im planning on a mech pnue mag unless you have some ideas!! i have not purchased anything as far as pneumatics yet. im still deciding on what to do!! i have seen such thins as ion boards used, but the way im thinking is using cbreave68's kit!! here is the link http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=226161&highlight=pnuemag but im open for ides if you have any let me know and ill think about it!

[Spider-TW]

I was just wondering if you had checked out the egomag threads, such as Latches' egomag (http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=211255&page=5&pp=30&highlight=egomag) .

You can search in the tech and workshop forums for "egomag" and get a good amount of info. It's another level of complexity.

Personally, I like electro-pneus with the classic valve and mech-pneus for the reactive valves because of the recharge times and on/off reset. To be mostly chuff-less, a mech-pneu classic valve requires fingers with one of; practice, talent, or concentration. Not so much with a reactive valve.

For your first pneu, I would stick with an RT style on/off in whatever valve you use. You can change to a ULT later if you want. I was unable to take advantage of a ULT because my tickler reg would stick at low pressure. It would work at the same pressure as the RT on/off. If you use a ULT (in a reactive valve), I would use an LPR with a piston larger than a tickler. That has been a problem on the G-Force (http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=219595&page=74&pp=30) frames as well.

[stump68]

I was just wondering if you had checked out the egomag threads, such as Latches' egomag (http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=211255&page=5&pp=30&highlight=egomag) .

You can search in the tech and workshop forums for "egomag" and get a good amount of info. It's another level of complexity.

Personally, I like electro-pneus with the classic valve and mech-pneus for the reactive valves because of the recharge times and on/off reset. To be mostly chuff-less, a mech-pneu classic valve requires fingers with one of; practice, talent, or concentration. Not so much with a reactive valve.

For your first pneu, I would stick with an RT style on/off in whatever valve you use. You can change to a ULT later if you want. I was unable to take advantage of a ULT because my tickler reg would stick at low pressure. It would work at the same pressure as the RT on/off. If you use a ULT (in a reactive valve), I would use an LPR with a piston larger than a tickler. That has been a problem on the G-Force (http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=219595&page=74&pp=30) frames as well.
so explain to me how to do a electro-pneu mag!! im new to this mag world!! yall peeps are a lil diffrent!! in a good way!! im open to all advice. and who would i go to to get a r/t on/off? i looked on the air gun designs site and couldnt find it. thanks STUMP

[Spider-TW]

Like dbp said, Tunaman on here or on the AGD website (http://store.airgundesignsusa.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.prodInfo&productID=399&categoryID=23) .

Either way, consider buying one or two on/off pins of around .712 or .728 in length to play with. They make for easy changes.

EP mags just use a solenoid, control board and switch instead of the MSV-2 valve on a mech pneu. EPs are more complicated, but they keep your fingers from interfering with the cycling of the valve. Some people need that, others don't. The hardest part of either one is laying out and fitting the components into your marker the way you want.

Don't skip the FAQ (http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=214736)

[Coralis]

You might pm Mann as well I know he was selling off lots of parts a few months back he may have one you can buy that would be cheaper than getting a rt on/off new .