What lvl bolt in my two newly aquired Minimags?

[DoubleDutch]

I got two Minimags off Craigslist today for cheap. They don't look like they have been touched since the mid-90's. I am a bit rusty on my bolt-recognition skills, so can someone tell me what level bolt these are? They have a rubber foamie. While we are at it, can someone tell me what bolt I have in my Classic? I dimly recall putting an aftermarket bolt in it or something.

The two Minimags are at the top, my Classic is at the bottom.
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Here is a close up of just the bolts. The two Minimag bolts on the left, my Classic's bolt on the right. The leftmost bolt is missing the rubber foamie.
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[BiNumber3]

I'm thinking the left 2 are the foamie'd agd lvl 7 bolts, n the right one is an ans venturi, not completely sure tho

[atech2]

Take a picture of the back side, although I doubt there level 10.

[BiNumber3]

theyre not lvl 10, the lip (part that sear catches) is too large n squared

[atech2]

Well, there you go.

[Konigballer]

what kind of trigger frames are those? They don't really look like the carbonfiber ones, are they the older aluminum?

[Ando]

Can't really tell :confused: Need closer pic. Preferably with the grips off.

[OPBN]

theyre not lvl 10, the lip (part that sear catches) is too large n squared
Also, the tip of the powertube have the slotted fitting instead of the hex head that LvlX has.

Not sure of the frame on the left, but the one on the right looks like stock with PMI grips.

[DoubleDutch]

I didn't think the trigger frames would attract any attention. Here is a pic, my guess is that they are all stock. The previous owners just made a few upgrades (remote hose adapter, red dot sights). I also got some VL1000's (broken lids of course), two really old looking CB radios, and a Vents Predator mask.

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[snoopay700]

I'm thinking the left 2 are the foamie'd agd lvl 7 bolts, n the right one is an ans venturi, not completely sure tho
You're correct, the ANS on the right is a horrid bolt, if you have the stock bolt i would go back to that. Those are old level 7s though.

And as far as the triggerframes, you are one lucky SOB, 3 aluminum frames, i've wanted one ever since i saw one on my friend's dad's mag when i was 10.

[DoubleDutch]

You're correct, the ANS on the right is a horrid bolt, if you have the stock bolt i would go back to that. Those are old level 7s though.

And as far as the triggerframes, you are one lucky SOB, 3 aluminum frames, i've wanted one ever since i saw one on my friend's dad's mag when i was 10.

On the ANS, I do have the stock bolt, but the ANS has not given me any problems, that I could tell. Don't fix it if it ain't broke, or are there good specific reasons to go back to the stock (level 7) bolt?

Well one of the Minimags will probably go up for sale sometime (I don't think I need 3 classics) so keep your eyes peeled!

Update on the Minimags: I took things apart, lubed everything up good, put 10 drops of lube in the air connector, and gassed them up, just to see if they would with the existing o-rings. One of them is leaking out the front, so I need to go re-watch the videos to see which o-rings to replace. The other one gassed up and shot just fine! Not too bad for guns that haven't been gassed up for over a decade, no?

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If leaking out of the front means down the barrel I believe that always points to the powertube o-ring.

[secretweaponevan]

If leaking out of the front means down the barrel I believe that always points to the powertube o-ring.

Correct, unless it only leaks down the barrel with the trigger held, then it is a leaky on/off top o-ring.

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Correct, unless it only leaks down the barrel with the trigger held, then it is a leaky on/off top o-ring.

Which causes what was referred to as the water splinker sound in the AGD videos, right? I guess watching the vids really did come in handy. :clap:

[Ando]

What the heck is that on the back side of the regulator in the orange plate?


Don't fix it if it ain't broke
QFT

If it's working to your liking, leave it be.

[DoubleDutch]

What the heck is that on the back side of the regulator in the orange plate?


Tourney cap? It would prevent you from adjusting the velocity with it on, but not sure what would prevent you from taking the cap off and then adjusting the velocity.

[snoopay700]

On the ANS, I do have the stock bolt, but the ANS has not given me any problems, that I could tell. Don't fix it if it ain't broke, or are there good specific reasons to go back to the stock (level 7) bolt?

Well one of the Minimags will probably go up for sale sometime (I don't think I need 3 classics) so keep your eyes peeled!

Update on the Minimags: I took things apart, lubed everything up good, put 10 drops of lube in the air connector, and gassed them up, just to see if they would with the existing o-rings. One of them is leaking out the front, so I need to go re-watch the videos to see which o-rings to replace. The other one gassed up and shot just fine! Not too bad for guns that haven't been gassed up for over a decade, no?
Well the ANS, like most venturi bolts, cuts down on efficiency, and the bolt stem is also shorter so i had problems with the powertube oring sealing completely even with the smallest spacer, also ran into some chopping problems because if it is missing the foamie it allows the balls to roll back in the breech, or if the ball is forward enough it will crack them and you'll get barrel breaks, and i couldn't get a foamie to stay on for the life of me. When i switched to the stock bolt that was with my classic RT (it had a level 10 when i bought it and the guy was nice enough to have not lost the stock bolt, unlike the classic mag that i bought, and it was one of the worst buys) all of those problems went away.

And i don't have a use for 2 classic mags nor do i have the money, i just want the frame haha, which is largely why i haven't been able to find one, i've been trying to construct an oldschool mag for as long as i can remember, you know, even a valve that has a spring instead of spacers, just to do it and have an old mag.

The stock bolt, on the other hand, is fine if it loses it's foamie (if it has one) and if it's a foamieless bolt then those are the best next to level 10s for avoiding breaks.

[Ando]

Tourney cap? It would prevent you from adjusting the velocity with it on, but not sure what would prevent you from taking the cap off and then adjusting the velocity.

Could be but i've never seen a tourney cap like that before. Almost looks like a natural gas line plug :confused:

Would be hell-a-awesome if it was. For plain coolness on someones frank-mag :rofl:

[snoopay700]

Could be but i've never seen a tourney cap like that before. Almost looks like a natural gas line plug :confused:

Would be hell-a-awesome if it was for plain coolness on someones frank-mag :rofl:
No, it's a velocity lock, just not a good one, i've seen them before.

[secretweaponevan]

Which causes what was referred to as the water splinker sound in the AGD videos, right? I guess watching the vids really did come in handy. :clap:

+1 Mustache to you! http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y299/IceManHoran/Emoticons/1mustache.gif

[DoubleDutch]

Correct, unless it only leaks down the barrel with the trigger held, then it is a leaky on/off top o-ring.

It was doing both! Two o-rings later, everything is hunky-dory. :clap:

I had forgotten how simple this gun is. I didn't replace the little white one on top of the on/off. I read somewhere those basically last forever, I have like 10 of those in my tackle box and only 1 more of the tan ones.

[tasker89]

No, it's a velocity lock, just not a good one, i've seen them before.

Looks like the original AGD tourney cap. It was a two piece design. You swapped out the regular threaded adjuster in favor of a smooth sided adjuster. The cap slid over the top and was tightened down. It preceded the recessed three piece lock.

[athomas]

Looks like the original AGD tourney cap. It was a two piece design. You swapped out the regular threaded adjuster in favor of a smooth sided adjuster. The cap slid over the top and was tightened down. It preceded the recessed three piece lock.
I have one of those on my classic mag. I never bothered the change it back years ago.

[DoubleDutch]

I also got this with the minimags.

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Is it a CO2 fill station? If so, what is it missing? Some kind of hose right? How much could I get for it were I to sell it?

[athomas]

Its could be an old homemade CO2 fill station. Its not worth much, just the used value of the fittings.