The Mystery frame from Tunaball3

[Magnus]

The Magnus Project

Magnus - From Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magnus
meaning "Great" in Latin, was sometimes used as a first name among Romans but was not particularly common among them, the most well-known Roman of that name being the third-century usurper.


I never had the desire to make my own parts. Too much time, too much trouble. However, being a long time AGD enthusiast - I became increasingly frustrated by the decreasing availability of aftermarket parts and manufacturers. Choices to begin with were always limited. Even secondhand items would sell for ridiculous prices. Apparently, I was not alone in my frustration.

After some thought and consideration, I realized that I have the resources at my disposal to change this situation for the better. After consulting with some close and prominent memebers of the AGD community, the "Magnus Project" was born. "Magnus" is the official brand name of EVERYTHING spawned by this endeavor. Our goal is to create the HIGHEST quality, most desirable, and smartest aftermarket products ever made for AGD markers.

This is a 'ground up' grass roots movement by people who do not want to be held hostage to circumstances beyond their control, politics, and drama.

The products spawned by this endeavor are made to our liking and for our own personal use. There will be limited amounts of each available to the public through Tunaman here on AO - However, the good news is if you want them, we will build more of them.

This is just the tip of the spear. We already have many other things up our sleeves and in the works. There will also be Tunamart-specific items that have been commissioned and coming in the near future.

We are also considering offering our design and production services to the public. Something you want to see made, or have an idea you would like to give life to? Talk to us. The only limitations are imagination and cash ;-) More on this at a later time.

Who exactly are we? Not that there is some big secret, but do not ask. The only thing you need to know is that these products will be for sale exclusivley through Tunaman.

Now, without further delay -

Introducing the
Magnus M-90 "EMANCIPATOR"
(cad renderings, prototype, and raw production images shown)
Specs-
-100% AGD compatible mechanical 90* grip frame based off of genuine AGD cads.
-Uses any AGD spec Intelliframe compatible trigger.
-Takes AGD safety assemblies and trigger pins.
-Uses any Angel 90* compatible grip panels. Champagne colored IR3 grips included standard.
-FULLY D.I.Y. ready. No need to hack up your expensive frame for your DIY projects. Drop your Cyberave68 parts right in, and secure them with the optional hardware kit.
-Pre-Drilled and Tapped with an internal 1/8 npt port for your custom air needs.
-Omron micro switch mount. Used to create an improved I-feed system for your warps, OR for your own custom applications.
-AGD spec Intellifeed mount holes.
-Accepts an Emag style magnetic trigger return. You can use to use up to three emag magnets above the trigger.
-Sear release hole forward of the rear frame screw allows you to remove your valve effortlessly.
-Available in both gloss and dust black.
*DOES NOT INCLUDE ANY PNEUMATIC COMPONENETS
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/4The_Family/magnus/productionrun1/Emancipator90-01.gif
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/4The_Family/magnus/productionrun1/Emancipator90-04.gif
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/4The_Family/magnus/productionrun1/Emancipator90-05.gif
Sabre Trigger
100% AGD spec mech trigger, made to better compliment the DIY capabilities of the M-90 frame.
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/4The_Family/magnus/productionrun1/Sabre-trigger02.gif
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/4The_Family/magnus/productionrun1/Sabre01.gif

[Magnus]

Coming soon

"E-Sabre" trigger for AGD E-mags

Sorry that the pic of the trigger is of an unfinished one. More to come later. Unseen to the naked eye are some subtle improvements over any current E-mag trigger. This is the first blade emag trigger made to AGD specs.
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/4The_Family/magnus/productionrun1/ESaber.gif
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/4The_Family/magnus/productionrun1/ESabre01.gif

V2 Tunablade trigger for AGD E-mags
Same features and improvements as the E-Sabre. Lighter and sexier than the V1
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/4The_Family/magnus/productionrun1/TunabladeMK2.gif
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/4The_Family/magnus/productionrun1/V2Tunablade-1.gif

[Magnus]

"Talon"
Mech version of the Tunablade. 100% AGD spec mech trigger, made to better compliment the DIY capabilities of the M-90 frame.
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/4The_Family/magnus/productionrun1/Talon02.gif
http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/4The_Family/magnus/productionrun1/Talon01.gif

More pics

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/4The_Family/magnus/productionrun1/ETriggers01.gif

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/4The_Family/magnus/prototypes/IMG_1425.jpg

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/4The_Family/magnus/triggerside.jpg

[kcombs9]

*CHANT* Price price Price Price */CHANT*

:clap: :shooting: :hail:

[Shirow]

Three questions:

1) When
2) How much
3) If you utilize pneumatics inside this frame, can you also attach an intellifeed cable to a warp using the switch mount? Or will the pnuematic components block it?

One other thing I forgot - when you say 'optional mounting hardware' - will you sell this or are you referring to Cyberave's mounting bracket that he sells?

[hobbesTZ]

Thats so awesome I cant stand it :dance:

[Ando]

Looks good guys. Depending if the wife doesn't get crazy on house projects again (current one is costing us 3k) I'll def be up for a frame and a Tuna trigger 2.0....

[Dend78]

wow i likes i likes!!!!

:cheers:

[Mongoose]

http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm15/Malware_2008/96px-Exploding-head.gif

Great job...put me down for one of everything :cheers:

[zondo]

:wow: ... now I have some hard decisions to make.

[SSP REAPER]

WOW :wow: even better now we can see there have been prototypes made!
Sign me up for a gloss black one with Sabre trigger :hail:
and possibly an E-sabre for my Xmag :cool:

[Dirge]

About time! And way more choices than I expected.

[teufelhunden]

So, who is Magnus? Is it Tuna? If not, what does Tuna think about the Tunablade name being "borrowed?"

[BigEvil]

So, who is Magnus? Is it Tuna? If not, what does Tuna think about the Tunablade name being "borrowed?"

From the way I understand it they are for Tuna.

[Ando]

So, who is Magnus? Is it Tuna? If not, what does Tuna think about the Tunablade name being "borrowed?"

Who exactly are we? Not that there is some big secret, but do not ask. The only thing you need to know is that these products will be for sale exclusivley through Tunaman.
Secret Squirrels!!!

[Smoothice]

Put me down for a emancipator frame and 1 of every trigger.

[beaver_heater]

Put me down for a gloss black emancipator and gloss sabre trigger :headbang:

[Rudz]

Can I get a polished E sabre? That's beautiful

[om3n]

when do we find out prices?

[Gadget]

Great to see what looks like a well organised effort to create more products for the AGD community. Like everyone else, I'm dying to know when they'll be available and what the costs will be! :clap:

[C_losjoker]

sweetness

[snoopay700]

I want one, i hope i have the money when they come out.

[Rudz]

Do we know what color options we have for anno? Prices?

[fishmishin]

I am interested in the e-saber as well !! Can't wait until these start rolling out. Hopefully soon since I am going to be getting ready send some stuff off to anno with in the next month or so.

[Wrathbringer]

:wow: SWEET

Now I would like to know when they're available, how much they will be, do you accept kidneys as payment and do they have to be our own? An Emancipator with a Talon trigger would be killer with the Noxious body and rail...

[Shirow]

C'mon, stop teasing, let's have the details! :cry:

[GaryWV]

So, Im gonna have to convince my fiancee to let me buy one of these because when I finally have the money none will be available... Pray for me that she gets the job tomorrow.

[kwood]

i am so excited :clap:
how much!!!

[Smoothice]

An Emancipator with a Talon trigger would be killer with the Noxious body and rail...

My thoughts exactly. :D

I already have the rail. Payment worked out with venomous designs for the body. Now I just need to secure this frame. Good thing I have tunaman on speed dial :cool:

[maniacmechanic]

Great to see what looks like a well organised effort to create more products for the AGD community. :clap:

Do they have a Smilie for my wife beatin me on the head ( while i'm smiling ) & another for my wallet flying out the window
You've been the talk of the town since Tunaball this year

But seriously , very nice work

[Smoothice]

Do they have a Smilie for my wife beatin me on the head ( while i'm smiling ) & another for my wallet flying out the window



http://www.bigevilonline.com/images/smilies/head.gif
This guy looks pretty happy

[shives007]

I think I could go for one of those V2 Tunablades. I think they look nice and comfy.

Shives

[zondo]

I will be on the list for the Emancipator, Sabre, and E-Sabre :dance: .

I guess I will have to start looking for Angel grips now.

And this will be my home as well: http://www.bigevilonline.com/images/smilies/head.gif

[Wrathbringer]

I guess I will have to start looking for Angel grips now.

I was thinking the same thing after I finished drooling. Shame really, I liked my sticky grips...


I already have the rail. Payment worked out with venomous designs for the body. Now I just need to secure this frame. Good thing I have tunaman on speed dial :cool:

Then it's a race to build the first Noxious Emancipated Talon'd Mag!

Unfortunately I'm destined to lose since I live in the Great White North and so anything takes forever to get here...

[gimp]

I'm interested in a dust black emancipator frame, a saber and esaber trigger. That is, if it's not to expensive. :cheers:

[MANN]

Who exactly are we? Not that there is some big secret, but do not ask. The only thing you need to know is that these products will be for sale exclusivley through Tunaman.


Just out of curiosity why not take credit for what is being produced/created. "hiding" seems sorta sketchy. We all know how many paintball "tinkers/companies" have brought/created products, and then pulled a Houdini. I am not saying that "magnus" is going to fit the same mold, but it still seems suspicious.

[secretweaponevan]

Just out of curiosity why not take credit for what is being produced/created. "hiding" seems sorta sketchy. We all know how many paintball "tinkers/companies" have brought/created products, and then pulled a Houdini. I am not saying that "magnus" is going to fit the same mold, but it still seems suspicious.

Very true. However, as long as they don't remain anonymous AND require pre-order cash be put down, I'm cool with this. They might have a very good reason (as long as they aren't Gardners).

Pre-orders make my blood boil. If you believe enough in your product, put down the cash. If not, don't take my money.

[Tunaman]

Just out of curiosity why not take credit for what is being produced/created. "hiding" seems sorta sketchy. We all know how many paintball "tinkers/companies" have brought/created products, and then pulled a Houdini. I am not saying that "magnus" is going to fit the same mold, but it still seems suspicious.Nothing suspicious at all. Just like some other "dealers" making products, no one will ever know who makes these for me or who does the finish work. If my reputation is not good enough then don't buy any of these products.

[secretweaponevan]

Nothing suspicious at all. Just like some other "dealers" making products, no one will ever know who makes these for me or who does the finish work. If my reputation is not good enough then don't buy any of these products.

Good point. When I'm ready to build a pneumag, I'll buy anything you support. :cheers:

[Beemer]

"hiding" seems sorta sketchy. We all know how many paintball "tinkers/companies" have brought/created products, and then pulled a Houdini. I am not saying that "magnus" is going to fit the same mold, but it still seems suspicious.

Back up the truck Chuck. Tuna wont Mod this thread for good reason but the Mod Team will.

Go back and read the first post again and do the math. Pay attention and comprehend what you read. If you want to call out TunaMan then go make your own thread to do it and it will get the same respect.

I have warned you before in PMs about trolling. :nono: You can go somewhere else to do that. I will continue on with keeping this thread cleaned up in the spirit of AO and because of you I will be removing one of my own posts and most likely one of Tuna's. I hate removing anything but that pisses me off.


Now everybody back on topic. Ask questions and enjoy new STUFF. I am SURE Tuna will be happy to answer all your questions since if you really read the first post you could do the math and see that Tuna has the exclusive and or investment and HIS NAME on these new products :clap: :bounce: Everything else WILL be removed. :mad:

[ezcreation]

Simple question to Tuna: can we preorder?

[chopper duke]

I'm down for a Sabre, E-Sabre, TB2 and Talon depending on price.

[fishmishin]

My main question is when are we to expect any of it to became available? Also of course what are the prices going to look like?

[Fred]

So... THAT's what up with that... :clap:

[Beemer]

My main question is when are we to expect any of it to became available? Also of course what are the prices going to look like?

Seeing how Tuna respects the rules as a Dealer, I would expect that would be addressed in a thread in the dealers forum when he starts one. :) Keep an eye on the dealers forum. ;)

[Beemer]

So... THAT's what up with that... :clap:

Aint it GREAT. Guess my question Thread finally got an answer eh. :dance: :wow:

[fishmishin]

Seeing how Tuna respects the rules as a Dealer, I would expect that would be addressed in a thread in the dealers forum when he starts one. :) Keep an eye on the dealers forum. ;)

Nope it's not there yet, wait I'll check again. Nope still not there yet, wait i'll check again. Nope still not there yet, wait I'll check again. Repeat viscous cycle until a price appears, lol. :rolleyes:

[kwood]

Nope it's not there yet, wait I'll check again. Nope still not there yet, wait i'll check again. Nope still not there yet, wait I'll check again. Repeat viscous cycle until a price appears, lol. :rolleyes:

lol im the same way, its like waiting for the doors to open at best buy the day after thanksgiving

[fishmishin]

Yes it is !!

[wetwrks]

Yes it is !!

You got me! :mad:

I read this as "it is up in the dealer thread" not "it is like waiting for best buy to open".








Just for that you owe me an invert mini. :D

[fishmishin]

You got me! :mad:

I read this as "it is up in the dealer thread" not "it is like waiting for best buy to open".








Just for that you owe me an invert mini. :D


Sorry about that !!
:rofl:

[Beemer]

Nope it's not there yet, wait I'll check again. Nope still not there yet, wait i'll check again. Nope still not there yet, wait I'll check again. Repeat viscous cycle until a price appears, lol. :rolleyes:

LOL crack me up. :spit_take Then again if you know anything about Tuna you would know he is slooooow on baiting the Tuna hook. Not that he needs help or anything, he is just slooooow in the process by nature. :D but always worth the wait. :clap:

[wetwrks]

Sorry about that !!
:rofl:

Sorry doesn't get me a mini. :D Or even a sale thread to drewl over.

[Beemer]

Back on topic so I dont have to Mod the crap out of this thread. Thankyou. :argh:

[snoopay700]

Hey, i know we'll see a price in the dealer's forum eventually, but are we safe in assuming that the frame will be over $120, seeing as that's what intelliframes run usually?

[Beemer]

Hey, i know we'll see a price in the dealer's forum eventually, but are we safe in assuming that the frame will be over $120, seeing as that's what intelliframes run usually?

Oh boy, you know what happens when you assume? Frame with Trig, grips and full safety assembly. I could assume but you know where that leaves us. :argh:

[wetwrks]

Back on topic so I dont have to Mod the crap out of this thread. Thankyou. :argh:

I thought I was. I mentioned needing a sales thread to drewl over. :D

So is it up yet?

[fishmishin]

No Beemer said Tuna is gonna drive us crazy with anticipation. Also I hope your pretty close on the price Snoopay, that would be awesome!!

So can we start guessing what it will cost, and see who gets it right without getting in trouble, or should that be another thread. By the way the winner will get a nice pat on the shoulder and nothing more, lol. Unless Tuna wants to throw in a free trigger for the lucky one who guesses it right.

[pillage]

Everything looks good. damn it, decisions decisions. :wow:

[BigEvil]

Nothing suspicious at all. Just like some other "dealers" making products, no one will ever know who makes these for me or who does the finish work. If my reputation is not good enough then don't buy any of these products.



I guess that answers that. ;)

[SSP REAPER]

I have no problems buying anything that carries Tunaman's reputation. You know these frames and triggers will be exactly what they are supposed to be. No magic, gimmicks or malarchy from the man they call Tuna! Now where's that dealer thread? :argh: :D

[Magnus]

This thread got very long very quickly. I will try to answer as many questions as I can. Im sure if I miss something Bob can help out.





1) When
2) How much
3) If you utilize pneumatics inside this frame, can you also attach an intellifeed cable to a warp using the switch mount? Or will the pnuematic components block it?

One other thing I forgot - when you say 'optional mounting hardware' - will you sell this or are you referring to Cyberave's mounting bracket that he sells?

1)Frames and mech triggers are machined. I am in the process of polishing them before I send them off to the anodizer. Not too long after that. We are gearing up for production on the two types of emag triggers. We are still testing them to see if any changes need to be made.

2)How much will be determined by Bob.

3) That is a good question. I will take a look at it later and see what I can come up with. The great thing about the mounting bracket we came up with is that there is plenty of room to add your own holes to it. Off the top of my head I would say that if you were to not use the Cyberave magnet mod you would be able to mount the Omron switch in a way behind the lever where it could be activated with the MSV2 and act as the return spring for it.

That might be something to think about to add to the next batch. "Shirow Mod" :)



Just out of curiosity why not take credit for what is being produced/created. "hiding" seems sorta sketchy. We all know how many paintball "tinkers/companies" have brought/created products, and then pulled a Houdini. I am not saying that "magnus" is going to fit the same mold, but it still seems suspicious.

I think Bob pretty much covered it;

Nothing suspicious at all. Just like some other "dealers" making products, no one will ever know who makes these for me or who does the finish work. If my reputation is not good enough then don't buy any of these products.

To put it simply, no one needs to know our business.


Simple question to Tuna: can we preorder?

I do not believe that will be required at this time. If demand exceeds supply, we will make more to ensure that anyone who wants to purchase one can.


Yes it is !!

Got me too :rofl:

[kwood]

i think i speak for everyone who has been watch the threads relating to this frame in saying
hey man
even though there was a lot of mystery around this frame
we thank you for coming out with some cool hardware for all the mag uses
we cant wait to see what else comes out of the magnus mystery box (i give you permission to use that phrase whenever you want magnus ;) )
thanks again friend

[Shirow]

This thread got very long very quickly. I will try to answer as many questions as I can. Im sure if I miss something Bob can help out.




1)Frames and mech triggers are machined. I am in the process of polishing them before I send them off to the anodizer. Not too long after that. We are gearing up for production on the two types of emag triggers. We are still testing them to see if any changes need to be made.

2)How much will be determined by Bob.

3) That is a good question. I will take a look at it later and see what I can come up with. The great thing about the mounting bracket we came up with is that there is plenty of room to add your own holes to it. Off the top of my head I would say that if you were to not use the Cyberave magnet mod you would be able to mount the Omron switch in a way behind the lever where it could be activated with the MSV2 and act as the return spring for it.

That might be something to think about to add to the next batch. "Shirow Mod" :)



Thanks very much for answering my questions. If you have a chance to confirm, I would very much appreciate it. I'm a die hard warper and I'd really have to have a (let me see if I can get this right..)

Warped Noxious Emancipated Pneumatic mag!

Now, if you come up with a special Shirow Edition (tm) I guess it would be a..

Shirow'ed Warped Noxious Emancipated Pneumatic mag!

Doesn't quite trip off the tongue. Thanks :)

[fishmishin]

Well put Kwood, well put !! I love seeing new stuff being turned out for the markers we all love so much. It lets me know that the mag will be around for a long time. Which I knew anyway, but the reenforcement is nice all the same. Thanks again guys for your hard work and dedication. I can't wait to get my hands on some new triggers!!

[Spazmok]

soooo stoked, cannot wait! :cheers:

[BigEvil]

Thanks very much for answering my questions. If you have a chance to confirm, I would very much appreciate it. I'm a die hard warper and I'd really have to have a (let me see if I can get this right..)

Warped Noxious Emancipated Pneumatic mag!

Now, if you come up with a special Shirow Edition (tm) I guess it would be a..

Shirow'ed Warped Noxious Emancipated Pneumatic mag!

Doesn't quite trip off the tongue. Thanks :)

Hey Shirow, here's another thing to think about. The sleeper LPR mod requires a modded CP direct mount and an ORing sandwhiched between the it and the bottom of the grip frame for air to move through. If you arent planning on using the sleeper mod, no problem - but if you are going to use it with the warp you might be able to mod the warp bracket to act as an airthrough :eek: Im going to talk to Loguzzzzz and see if this is something he can possibly do. Might be tricky.


One of the good things about not seeing Tuna too often is that I still have the prototype frame in my possession. Im going to see if I can figure out that switch thing later tonight when I get home. Id love to run a warp left body on my gun when Im done with it.

[SSP REAPER]

If you need the CP direct mount ASA, PM me. I am a dealer and will treat you right :D

[GaryWV]

Well, Ill know within a few hours hopefully if Ill finally be able to build that mag project Ive been dreaming of for the passed 8 years. Ive got my fingers crossed that Itll be a great year.

[Shirow]

Hey Shirow, here's another thing to think about. The sleeper LPR mod requires a modded CP direct mount and an ORing sandwhiched between the it and the bottom of the grip frame for air to move through. If you arent planning on using the sleeper mod, no problem - but if you are going to use it with the warp you might be able to mod the warp bracket to act as an airthrough :eek: Im going to talk to Loguzzzzz and see if this is something he can possibly do. Might be tricky.


One of the good things about not seeing Tuna too often is that I still have the prototype frame in my possession. Im going to see if I can figure out that switch thing later tonight when I get home. Id love to run a warp left body on my gun when Im done with it.

Hmmm... I have a Flatline right now - does this mean I'd need a screw in tank to do the sleeper setup? Modding the warp bracket would be... interesting....

Sounds like this might be harder than I thought :\

[BigEvil]

Hmmm... I have a Flatline right now - does this mean I'd need a screw in tank to do the sleeper setup? Modding the warp bracket would be... interesting....

Sounds like this might be harder than I thought :\

I think with something like a flatline you would run the LPR somewhere else, like off the flateline reg and then run a LP line into the grip.

[Shirow]

I think with something like a flatline you would run the LPR somewhere else, like off the flateline reg and then run a LP line into the grip.

Yeah, I just really like the idea of hiding the LPR inside the grip frame, it's much cleaner. If I can get this sorted out to work with the warp, I might sell the flatline and switch to a screw in anyway, only reason I have the flatline right now is to feed my retro valve 950ish PSI for major bounce.

[Ruler_Mark]

this is definatly an incarnation of pnuemagger's frame that he was designing.

[Shirow]

Hey Shirow, here's another thing to think about. The sleeper LPR mod requires a modded CP direct mount and an ORing sandwhiched between the it and the bottom of the grip frame for air to move through. If you arent planning on using the sleeper mod, no problem - but if you are going to use it with the warp you might be able to mod the warp bracket to act as an airthrough :eek: Im going to talk to Loguzzzzz and see if this is something he can possibly do. Might be tricky.


One of the good things about not seeing Tuna too often is that I still have the prototype frame in my possession. Im going to see if I can figure out that switch thing later tonight when I get home. Id love to run a warp left body on my gun when Im done with it.

I started a new thread to discuss some of this stuff so I don't clutter up this thread with discussions of one-off stuff.

http://automags.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2656396#post2656396

[SecondRate]

this is definatly an incarnation of pnuemagger's frame that he was designing.
Are you clueless?

The similarity begins and ends with the fact that both frames are set up for pneumatics. They are not even set up to function the same way. Other than that they're completely different.

You should really take another look at pneumagger's old thread.

:rolleyes:

[OPBN]

I guess I will have to start looking for Angel grips now.


Just a quick heads up for anyone interested, Lukes is now making aluminum grip panel that will fit these. I had him make up a pair for my Chimera frame and they are very nice.

[zondo]

Just a quick heads up for anyone interested, Lukes is now making aluminum grip panel that will fit these. I had him make up a pair for my Chimera frame and they are very nice.

:clap: I forgot about that! That way I don't have to deal with the LCD windows.

[Magnus]

Thanks very much for answering my questions. If you have a chance to confirm, I would very much appreciate it. I'm a die hard warper and I'd really have to have a (let me see if I can get this right..)

Warped Noxious Emancipated Pneumatic mag!

Now, if you come up with a special Shirow Edition (tm) I guess it would be a..

Shirow'ed Warped Noxious Emancipated Pneumatic mag!

Doesn't quite trip off the tongue. Thanks :)

This is what I had in mind. I couldn't even begin to figure for exact placement. However, if you put a screw through the lever of the MSV2 (think magnet mod), you would be able to adjust the activation point on the switch.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/4The_Family/magnus/productionrun1/IMG_1779.jpg

[Shirow]

Awesome, so it does fit at least.. that is the important thing. Thanks a lot!

[cyberave68]

This is what I had in mind. I couldn't even begin to figure for exact placement. However, if you put a screw through the lever of the MSV2 (think magnet mod), you would be able to adjust the activation point on the switch.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/4The_Family/magnus/productionrun1/IMG_1779.jpg


Very Nice Magnus!!! I didnt relize you had your proto all done. Looks like you got it all set up to drop one of my kits in there. Nice work, let me know when you start production as i will get extra kits in stock and offer small discount to to say the first 20 who get one of you frames.

On a side note, How short is the activation on that switch in the pic above? I wonder that the pull on the pneumag is to short or not to trip the switch? (just a thought) Also if the pull will trip the switch and also offer a bit of return i dont see why it couldnt be mounted so that the lever on the switch sits inside of the lever on the MSV-2... (Again just a thought)

Cy

[BigEvil]

Just in case you missed these in Beemer's thread.

http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s338/BigEvilOnline/th_MVI_1661.jpg (http://s509.photobucket.com/albums/s338/BigEvilOnline/?action=view&current=MVI_1661.flv)

http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s338/BigEvilOnline/th_MVI_1659.jpg (http://s509.photobucket.com/albums/s338/BigEvilOnline/?action=view&current=MVI_1659.flv)

Im looking forward to rocking this thing next weekend at the West Point Fall game. :D

[Shirow]

Argh! When can we buy one!

[Rudz]

I want an E Sabre!!!!! Please? Lol

[Magnus]

Argh! When can we buy one!

I have been polishing this stuff all weekend. It all should be off to get annoed very shortly. This is actually the most frustrating part of the process.

[Shirow]

I have been polishing this stuff all weekend. It all should be off to get annoed very shortly. This is actually the most frustrating part of the process.

Cool, I'm excited :)

So, which is the best pneumag tutorial out there right now? I've googled around but the ones I find either have missing pictures or link to videos that 404.

Wanna get ready and prepared for this frame :)

Edit: NM found this one, it looks good: http://www.bigevilonline.com/showthread.php?t=7&page=2

[Rudz]

Can I have my E sabre polished, but unannod? Pm me


Thanks

[Fred]

WTB dealer thread.

I need to dig around in my parts boxes to see how much of a mag I can scrap together...

[BigEvil]

Cool, I'm excited :)

So, which is the best pneumag tutorial out there right now? I've googled around but the ones I find either have missing pictures or link to videos that 404.

Wanna get ready and prepared for this frame :)

Edit: NM found this one, it looks good: http://www.bigevilonline.com/showthread.php?t=7&page=2


Good link ;)

Im going to see if I can get someone to update that thread to include the new frame once its out.

[Shirow]

Good link ;)

Im going to see if I can get someone to update that thread to include the new frame once its out.


That'd be cool.

[some hippie]

BEO what kind of snatch grip is that? is it part of the grip frame or seperate?

[BigEvil]

BEO what kind of snatch grip is that? is it part of the grip frame or seperate?

RPG snatch. It's separate.

[Gadget]

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/4The_Family/magnus/prototypes/IMG_1425.jpg

Is that a micro-Rock in the photo? I'm trying to decide which LPR to buy for my pneu project and would be keen to know which model suits the Emancipator frame the best.

[BigEvil]

I dont think a micro rock will fit. That is a variant of the WGP Tickler. Any of those small LPRs should work.

[kwood]

it is the stock 04/05 prostock lpr

[Shirow]

Is there a list of 'recommended' LPRs for this frame? I imagine it is short. I was going to buy a micro rock, assuming it would fit.. but maybe I am wrong?

[zondo]

Will the triggers be the roller-bearing type? The mech triggers don't look like it'll fit, but speculating the e-triggers will?

[Magnus]

Will the triggers be the roller-bearing type? The mech triggers don't look like it'll fit, but speculating the e-triggers will?

PPS Micro Rocks will not fit inside.
Trigger are non bearing. Waste of $10 on a mech trigger. We never saw a real benefit and decided to save the extra cost.

EMAG triggers do have a bearing and do not fit in the Emancipator. Any Intelliframe trigger will work.

There will be some issues with the lower set screw location on RPG triggers. It will interfere with the actuator rod if you decide to install pneumatics in the frame, but will work fine as a mechanical frame.

[Shirow]

So do you recommend a tickler for this frame?

[Magnus]

So do you recommend a tickler for this frame?

Yes. We know they fit. I would bet that other small LPRs would also but we have not had time to try any different ones out. The PPS micro rock WILL NOT fit, despite my best efforts.

[Shirow]

Yes. We know they fit. I would bet that other small LPRs would also but we have not had time to try any different ones out. The PPS micro rock WILL NOT fit, despite my best efforts.

Cool, thanks for the update. One last question (trying to get everything on hand ahead of time :)) - in your original post it says 'drop in your Cyberave parts with optional hardware kit'

Is this an optional hardware kit you will sell or are you referring to one of the Cyberave mounting brackets?

[snoopay700]

Cool, thanks for the update. One last question (trying to get everything on hand ahead of time :)) - in your original post it says 'drop in your Cyberave parts with optional hardware kit'

Is this an optional hardware kit you will sell or are you referring to one of the Cyberave mounting brackets?
From the looks of it it doesn't look like you'll need a bracket to mount it at all, i think they may just mean two screws and two nuts to mount the msv-2

[Mongoose]

From the looks of it it doesn't look like you'll need a bracket to mount it at all, i think they may just mean two screws and two nuts to mount the msv-2

Yes, i'm pretty sure the hardware kit includes all the screws you will need to mount everything in the P-kit that Cyberave sells.

[Shirow]

That's what I figured, just wanted to make sure. Thanks for the info.

[kwood]

anyone have an idea which trigger it comes with?

[SSP REAPER]

given the options mentioned, I would guess you had a choice of the "Sabre" or "Talon". I got to shoot this frame at the NH game I put on in July, and the Sabre trigger is very very comfortable. I have always fancied myself a scythe trigger guy but the sabre has me thinking elsewhere :wow:

[Magnus]

anyone have an idea which trigger it comes with?

Which ever one you want. :)

[zondo]

anyone have an idea which trigger it comes with?

If you mean which trigger is included in the cost of the frame, I don't think that is included (at least that's how I read the first few posts). Tuna and Magnus haven't worked out pricing yet, so it'll probably be solved when that is hashed out in the SOON TO BE COMING DEALER THREAD. :D

[cougar20th]

Which ever one you want. :)

Does that mean there are extra triggers availible? Could we get both triggers?

[SSP REAPER]

I hope so, I would like to replace the stock trigger on my Xmag and the trigger on the wife's ULE mag

[Magnus]

I hate polishing. These are taking forever, but are coming out very nice. Car parts are much easier. Give me a set of valve covers or rims to clean up any day.

We have had many inquiries about the two new e-mag triggers. I am 99% sure that the current designs are sound. However, I will deal with that other 1% after they return from anno. Production will start as soon as I am satisfied.

Contrary to what you might think from just looking at the pics we posted, there are differences, both subtle and some obvious, in the new e-mag trigger designs from anything else out now. The recommendations come straight from Tunaman, and based on his years of experience working with these guns.

I believe that the Emancipators will be offered with your choice of Talon, Sabre, or AGD Intelli-frame triggers. They will also come standard with champagne colored IR3 grips.

The "optional hardware kit" is a complete set of all screws and set screws needed to mount components. The sizes match all of the pre drilled and tapped holes in the mounting bracket. This should take all of the guess work out for the tinkerers.

A note regarding the Cyberave68 DIY pneumatic kits: The lever on the 2-way needs to be slightly shortened approximately 1/8". Everything else will fit right in the way Cyberave68 provides it.

I will let someone else more knowledgeable about setting these up provide specifications on the length for the actuator rod for the trigger. It's another one of those preference things.

I never would have guessed we should have made a lot more of this stuff. We are already talking about a second run of Emancipators. Thanks to everyone for both the awesome feedback and enthusiasm. This has been a lot of fun, and a good learning experience. I am looking forward to the “Show off your Magnus parts” posts in the near future.

[SN toter]

ugh, just when i thought I was finally getting over my automag addiction...

Time for another build methinks.

[MechMags]

so are all the frames spoken for or is it still possible to get in on the first run. Nice looking peices... and i thought i was largely done with parts.. hahaha..

[kwood]

so are all the frames spoken for or is it still possible to get in on the first run. Nice looking peices... and i thought i was largely done with parts.. hahaha..

ditto, if there is a list i want to be on it

[ironchef97]

ditto, if there is a list i want to be on it
Double ditto. I really want a V2 Tunablade more than anything else though!

[hairyviking]

me too...i want a tunablade v2

[ezcreation]

I honestly dont know where this thread is going. Is this a preorder thread? Information?

[cyberave68]

I honestly dont know where this thread is going. Is this a preorder thread? Information?
Nah, more of a look what i made and soon to be selling thread, so DROOL SUCKA"S!!!
OH OH and hurry up and WAIT!!!... LOL

[kwood]

any word on the progress of these magnus?
when they are available for purchase, how will they be sold (pre-order list, or straight from tuna while supplies last)?

[Tunaman]

There will be enough for everyone so relax a bit. Patience is required for us to get this EXACTLY right, thus making it easier for all of you to set it up correctly. ;)

[kwood]

There will be enough for everyone so relax a bit. Patience is required for us to get this EXACTLY right, thus making it easier for all of you to set it up correctly. ;)

awesome, thats all i needed to hear
thanks for the help tuna
btw this frame is going to be paired up with that CF grip i got from you
im pretty excited about it

[Magnus]

There will be enough for everyone so relax a bit. Patience is required for us to get this EXACTLY right, thus making it easier for all of you to set it up correctly. ;)


We are committed to this little project. The more you guys buy, the more we will make. There are also other ideas simmering on the burner for the near future, but first things first.

[FalloutMan]

We are committed to this little project. The more you guys buy, the more we will make. There are also other ideas simmering on the burner for the near future, but first things first.

Do you plan on making a .45 frame soon? 90* just doesnt do it for me like a .45 will.

[kwood]

does the frame come with the return magnets?

[Magnus]

does the frame come with the return magnets?

No. It uses emag magnets, which Tuna has available.

[Swamp Thing]

Man get a bad case of carpal tunnel and get of forums for three months because you can't type and you miss alot. I want to get at least one is not two of these frames when they come out

Swamp

[Magnus]

I spoke to Tuna, and I just wanted to clearify - the Sabre and Talon DO NOT have magnets in them. They have top and side set screws. The Emancipator has a hole at the top above the trigger where you can drop up to three emag magnets in. These pull on the top set screw in the trigger to help aid in trigger return.

Here is the entire hardware layout for the frame. I will include a print out of this with each frame.

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/4The_Family/magnus/magnus-screws.gif

As far as hardware, the frame comes with the safety assembly and trigger pin, Champagne IR3 grips and grip screws.
The optional screw set includes
4 8/32 set screws (ram mount)
2 6/32 pan head screws (Msv-2 mount)
2 M2 pan head screws (E-Switch mount)

Emag magnets are not included but can be obtained from Tuna.

Im also pretty sure you will have your choice of trigger also.

Hope this cleared up some questions.

[Smoothice]

http://i401.photobucket.com/albums/pp97/4The_Family/magnus/magnus-screws.gif.

:hail:

[Rudz]

Awesome, can't wait to see these in person

[SSP REAPER]

so sexy... I can't wait... :hail:

[TwilightG]

when mounting the MPA-3, are there any guides or indentations for it to sit in for proper alignment? or does it take a little tinkering to line up?
(I may have sent a PM about this already but forgot the answer)

I know it was mentioned somewhere about having to trim the MSV-2 lever, so that question is already covered ;)

[Wrathbringer]

Every time you post Magnus you making waiting that much harder...

I cannot wait to get an Emancipator! :headbang:

[Magnus]

After looking through Zapthemad's cheater thread I think that they should drop right in to the M-90. Not only that, but since one of the ram mounting holes matches the grip screw hole location on the Intelliframe, it should bolt right in using the existing set screw holes and hardware :clap:

Parts
Im still waiting to get everything back from anno. My polish work on just the frames took an hour a piece, but the results were well worth the time and effort.

Judging from the feedback I am getting from Bob, we will need to get moving on a second batch of these soon. I already have the ball rolling on it now, but I am trying to track down more 90 grips. I already put together "plan-b" in case I have trouble getting more.

Since this is the first time we made these, there were a few bumps along the road. The next batch will go faster for sure.

We are also working on a few other projects, but we don't want to get too far a head of ourselves. You guys should really enjoy these and just remember as long as you want them we will keep making them.

[Magnus]

when mounting the MPA-3, are there any guides or indentations for it to sit in for proper alignment? or does it take a little tinkering to line up?
(I may have sent a PM about this already but forgot the answer)

I know it was mentioned somewhere about having to trim the MSV-2 lever, so that question is already covered ;)


You push the ram down until it hits the bracket. There is enough room to move it closer or further away from the sear as needed. Then you lock it down with the four set screws.

One of the changes we made from the first one is that on the production frames there is now a groove that lets you run the ram hose underneath it instead of over and around it. This will keep that away from the moving sear.It should also help, since it will let you push the ram further to the front in case you leave it a little longer.

[Smoothice]

:sleeping:

[PaintballEngineer]

so... how might an Emancipator work with a "cheater" setup?

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This stuff looks sweeet! :ninja: :cheers:

[Smoothice]

so... how might an Emancipator work with a "cheater" setup?

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This stuff looks sweeet! :ninja: :cheers:

It would be cheaper to just use cyberaves kit and would be as fast as an electro.

[Ando]

I got the chance to shoot the frame this past weekend :D :ninja: :shooting: :hail:

BigE had it pnumed out with a fine frog hair trigger.

Hooooooolllllllllyyyyyyy HELL!!!

It's a beast, very comfy and shot better then any damn electro I've played with. Dare I say, even out performed our precious E-Mags. Sad to say, I might be replacing my Airwalks with a few of these. :rolleyes:

[Rudz]

Fast little bugger isn't she?

[zondo]

Yes, we are only waiting for Tuna to start the FS thread. :rolleyes:

[PaintballEngineer]

so... how might an Emancipator work with a "cheater" setup?

After looking through Zapthemad's cheater thread I think that they should drop right in to the M-90. Not only that, but since one of the ram mounting holes matches the grip screw hole location on the Intelliframe, it should bolt right in using the existing set screw holes and hardware


Well I'm blind. :rolleyes: :rofl:

[Ando]

Yes, we are only waiting for Tuna to start the FS thread. :rolleyes:
They're in test mode ATM.

[smeek]

Nice to hear they're in testing hopefully soon to be sold because I can't wait! I'm a little concerned with how thin the bottom and palm area appear to be though. I'd hate to see another "custom offset frame". ;) Just had a teammate twist his ego frame last weekend to make me even more suspicious than I was before. I'm not too worried though, I still plan on picking one of these up regardless.

[Ando]

Nice to hear they're in testing hopefully soon to be sold because I can't wait! I'm a little concerned with how thin the bottom and palm area appear to be though. I'd hate to see another "custom offset frame". ;) Just had a teammate twist his ego frame last weekend to make me even more suspicious than I was before. I'm not too worried though, I still plan on picking one of these up regardless.
I assure you, there's no way your going to twist this made in the US of A frame. The frame is rock solid compared to the Sweatshop EGO ;) j/k

How in the world your friend twisted his EGO frame is a feat to say the least.

[cougar20th]

It felt like a very solid frame when I saw it. Plus they have been testing the proto for several months now.

[xero28]

I tried to check most of the posts, but I didn't see this answered. If it has been, I apologize.

So, the emancipator will have the 1/8 NPT port at the bottom of the frame for a sleeper LPR. Will the bottom of the frame which butts up against the asa be milled out slightly for an o-ring so we don't have to do it to the asa? It will be fairly simple to drill a hole in a direct mount as opposed to drilling a hole and milling for an o-ring, seeing as how I don't have a mill.

Can't wait to get one of these for myself, looks awesome. :clap:

[BigEvil]

I tried to check most of the posts, but I didn't see this answered. If it has been, I apologize.

So, the emancipator will have the 1/8 NPT port at the bottom of the frame for a sleeper LPR. Will the bottom of the frame which butts up against the asa be milled out slightly for an o-ring so we don't have to do it to the asa? It will be fairly simple to drill a hole in a direct mount as opposed to drilling a hole and milling for an o-ring, seeing as how I don't have a mill.

Can't wait to get one of these for myself, looks awesome. :clap:


Loguzzo modded my CP asa, and there is a seat for the oring in it.

[ikya2009]

Magnus, thanks 4 helping me decide to get a mag....will definitely buy one...plz before xmas :cry:

oh, lpr = tickler iswhat u recommend?

[Loguzzzzzz]

It will be fairly simple to drill a hole in a direct mount as opposed to drilling a hole and milling for an o-ring, seeing as how I don't have a mill.Be forewarned that if you are using a CP direct mount on/off asa there is more to the mod than just drilling a hole in it. If you do that you will have just ruined a $50 asa.

Now if you choose to go with the direct mount asa that does not use the on/off feature then just drilling a hole may be all that is necessary.

I do not know for sure because in all the asa's I have modded, I always recommend the CP direct on/off asa. This is a personal preference but I like the ability to turn off and de-gas my guns when not in use.

[greezypete]

I think the frame and triggers look great.

I have a question for someone that has shot this frame though. How much side to side slop is in the trigger since it doesnt have a roller bearing. Thats the one thing I hate about my intelli frame , the trigger just feels sloppy. Lots of side to side wiggle. So how did this trigger feel?

[greensplash]

love what your doing just wish it was a 45 not a 90 :(

[Wrathbringer]

oh, lpr = tickler iswhat u recommend?

Seconded, especially since it's been confirmed that the Palmer's Micro Rock won't fit.

Speaking of which why won't the Micro Rock fit, is it just too wide or what?

[Temo Vryce]

The MicroRock is too wide. It's a almost twice the width of the tickler.

[Smoothice]

The MicroRock is too wide. It's a almost twice the width of the tickler.


Well if the only issue is width then the end user (us) could carve out our grips to accomodate a wider lpr. :clap:

[Ando]

I'm sure milled out panels will be a option.

[zondo]

Luke's 90* panels are thick enough to do that.

[PaintballEngineer]

The MicroRock is too wide. It's a almost twice the width of the tickler.


Hmmmmm... looks like there is a market for a thin lpr. or a grip frame with a built in lpr! Oooh! and you could pass full pressure gas through the grip to the top right of the frame for an air thru mag!

There also seems to be a need for a industry standard for air through grip asas, like the standard for mounting a basic asa.


this could get interesting... :ninja:

[greezypete]

I think the frame and triggers look great.

I have a question for someone that has shot this frame though. How much side to side slop is in the trigger since it doesnt have a roller bearing. Thats the one thing I hate about my intelli frame , the trigger just feels sloppy. Lots of side to side wiggle. So how did this trigger feel?


Any thoughts ............. Please :)

[TwilightG]

Any thoughts ............. Please :)

I haven't shot it although I have seen in person.
Just speculating, but I would imagine that given that the frames and triggers are built to AGD-spec, you might still have the same trigger feel that you're mentioning. (Although, being a vertical frame, it may not be as noticeable)

I have not tried this but if the side-to-side movement is too bothersome, you may be able to shim it somehow.

[Ando]

I didn't feel any but wasn't looking for it. Shimming is alwasy an option. :rolleyes:

[Mongoose]

I didn't feel any but wasn't looking for it. Shimming is alwasy an option. :rolleyes:

Same here...i was trying to outshoot it.....But i failed miserably :hail:


Can anyone gt the BPS off of the two vids that were posted in this thread?
It would be nice to have some numbers on what this thing can do.

[Epic_Scotsman]

any info on those new emag triggers? Been holding out for one

[BigEvil]

any info on those new emag triggers? Been holding out for one

I was supposed to get one for testing..... I'll see what's up.

[00Buckshot]

Send me one and I'll test it :D

[Magnus]

any info on those new emag triggers? Been holding out for one

Coming soon. I had to tweak the design some. Frames and mechanical triggers will be delivered to Tunaman as soon as we can get togehter.

[kwood]

would you happen to have any production pictures of the frames and triggers just to tease us with :p

[splat15k]

would you happen to have any production pictures of the frames and triggers just to tease us with :p


Haven't they been teasing us for half a year now?

[Rudz]

Good things come to those who wait

[Stayhuge]

I would rather them get their stuff together, and have the items ready for sale, like Rogue does, rather than start a preorder like half the others do, and NOT deliver the items to those who pay, in a timely manner. Seems like when teh dealers get your money ahead of time, there is no rush to get things done. See the dealers section with threads that have been lingering anywhere from 1-4 years and estimated dates missed by years (Not months or weeks.) As for this frame and the triggers, they seem to be moving along pretty quickly. I might have to pick one up when the become available.

Props to Magnus and Tuna for doing it right and getting the frames perfect for us!!! :cheers:

[PaintballEngineer]

I can haz update? :D

[Magnus]

I would rather them get their stuff together, and have the items ready for sale, like Rogue does, rather than start a preorder like half the others do, and NOT deliver the items to those who pay, in a timely manner. Seems like when teh dealers get your money ahead of time, there is no rush to get things done. See the dealers section with threads that have been lingering anywhere from 1-4 years and estimated dates missed by years (Not months or weeks.) As for this frame and the triggers, they seem to be moving along pretty quickly. I might have to pick one up when the become available.

Props to Magnus and Tuna for doing it right and getting the frames perfect for us!!! :cheers:


Thanks. This kind of thing did end up taking a few unexpected turns. We do, and always will want to things the right way. Keep in mind, there was a big financial layout to get this all done. The way this country is right now, we are nuts. It is very risky. I just hope that everyone buys these up so we can either make more or move on to the next project. I do not want to make more of anything only to have them sitting on a shelf collecting dust.





I can haz update?

I have a box full of beautifully annodized Emancipators, Talons, and Sabres sitting here but I can't seem to get a hold of Tunaman. Sorry for the hold up boys.

[splat15k]

I have a box full of beautifully annodized Emancipators, Talons, and Sabres sitting here but I can't seem to get a hold of Tunaman. Sorry for the hold up boys.


So we're getting close! :cheers:

[Wrathbringer]

I have a box full of beautifully annodized Emancipators, Talons, and Sabres sitting here but I can't seem to get a hold of Tunaman. Sorry for the hold up boys.

*Ctrl+R*
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*Ctrl+R*
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So... close...

P.S. If we order an Emancipator with a trigger, will it come fully assembled so that we just drop it in and go?

[kwood]

*Ctrl+R*
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So... close...


LOL!!!! :D
my thoughts and actions exactly :cheers:

[Fred]

... I'm strongly considering sending Tuna a blank check for him to fill out upon the recieving of these frames... :)

[zondo]

I'm just waiting.... :cool:

I think that's all I've been doing lately. But it sounds like multiple items will be heading my way around the same time... I pray. :argh:

[stircrazzzy]

This will be perfect with my micromag 2k9 project. :) Count me in, patiently waiting for the For Sale thread :clap:

Also, not trying to get anything special, but I am in Iraq currently with limited access to internet. Is there a chance that when the FS thread goes up, you can count me in for one? If not, that's cool, but I just fear the frames all getting sold before I have a chance to grab one.

Thanks.

[DaXtremeist]

count me in on this..... i am looking for this very much so ;)......

[Shirow]

Can anyone confirm the width of the frame? I'd like to try to figure out if it's possible to fit a micro rock with hollowed out Luke grips.. I think if I could get a specific measurement it should be pretty easy to see if it's possible.

[BigEvil]

Can anyone confirm the width of the frame? I'd like to try to figure out if it's possible to fit a micro rock with hollowed out Luke grips.. I think if I could get a specific measurement it should be pretty easy to see if it's possible.


I got one in there.. but it will interfere with the MSV2.

[Shirow]

I got one in there.. but it will interfere with the MSV2.

Should fit with a Cheater?

[Loguzzzzzz]

You could probably relocate the msv 2 a little higher, cut the lever and tap the holes a tad bit higher and that should work. I do have a Micro rock in one of my custom frames, actually the first sleeper I did!

If you use 90* LP fittings (from cyberave68) you can make the msv-2 lower than in this one and keep the lever longer too, which will make the trigger pull light. This frame rips too even with the short lever.

<a href="http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/4378/misc1023.jpg"><img src="http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/4378/misc1023.jpg" width="600" height="450"></img></a>

and in case any one is interested, this frame is for sale/ The asking price (I stress asking) is $400 as shown with lpr and asa.



/end hijack

[Shirow]

You could probably relocate the msv 2 a little higher, cut the lever and tap the holes a tad bit higher and that should work. I do have a Micro rock in one of my custom frames, actually the first sleeper I did!

If you use 90* LP fittings (from cyberave68) you can make the msv-2 lower than in this one and keep the lever longer too, which will make the trigger pull light. This frame rips too even with the short lever.

<a href="http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/4378/misc1023.jpg"><img src="http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/4378/misc1023.jpg" width="600" height="450"></img></a>

and in case any one is interested, this frame is for sale/ The asking price (I stress asking) is $400 as shown with lpr and asa.



/end hijack

That thing is real sweet, I've never seen anyone sleeper with a micro rock before... very tempting, good job I don't have $400 laying around ;)

[BigEvil]

Should fit with a Cheater?

Ill let you know. I have a cheater here also. :)

[Wrathbringer]

Should fit with a Cheater?

Judging by the pictures in Zap's preorder thread (http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=246032) the Micro Rock probably isn't long enough to interfere with the Cheater.

So is the only remaining issue then with the Micro Rock is that it's too wide?

[BigEvil]

I managed to get a micro rock in there. Should be plenty of room with the Cheater thing. The frame is appox 3/4" wide, FYI

[Stayhuge]

After looking, not sure if I want to replace my Chimera with this, but I am definitely down for one of the Sabre triggers. That thing is sick!!! :cheers:

[Wrathbringer]

I managed to get a micro rock in there. Should be plenty of room with the Cheater thing. The frame is appox 3/4" wide, FYI

Thanks for the info! According to the PPS website the Micro Rock is 7/8" wide, so you'd have to take out about 1/16" on both grip panels to have it fit properly inside the frame. Doesn't seem like much work at all to get it to fit then! :D

[BigEvil]

Thanks for the info! According to the PPS website the Micro Rock is 7/8" wide, so you'd have to take out about 1/16" on both grip panels to have it fit properly inside the frame. Doesn't seem like much work at all to get it to fit then! :D


Actually, the rubber grips went right over it. Had to stretch them a little, but not enough of a problem to have to remove any meat.

[Wrathbringer]

Sorry, I meant with solid grip panels like Luke's aluminum ones. Wait, which rubber grips do you have for a 90 degree Angel-style frame? I don't think I've ever seen any rubber ones like you describe.

[Ando]

I'm pretty sure he had regular angle grips.

[BigEvil]

I'm pretty sure he had regular angle grips.


They are Angel G7 grips

[Rudz]

Piks and vid with cheater and microrock?

[greezypete]

Whats taking so long ???????????

[zondo]

Hopefully Tuna is updating his website :D

[Beemer]

:sleeping: :tard:

[zondo]

I have a box full of beautifully annodized Emancipators, Talons, and Sabres sitting here but I can't seem to get a hold of Tunaman. Sorry for the hold up boys.

Pix!! :headbang:

[Rudz]

We should all send spam emails bugging tuna 25 times a day

Tunaman5@comcast.net

GO GO GO GO

[kwood]

We should all send spam emails bugging tuna 25 times a day

Tunaman5@comcast.net

GO GO GO GO


oh do i love the spirit of this place :D

[BigEvil]

:rofl:

Damn slackers... HAHAHA

yeah im posting under the influence of Jack Daniels and premium cigars....

[zondo]

Is there going to be a Black Friday special? :bounce:

[SSP REAPER]

Is there going to be a Black Friday special? :bounce:
If so, I'm in :p

[bunny5]

so when do the new emag triggers hit the market??? :D I think one is on my christmas list...

[Magnus]

Sorry but I screwed up the emag trigger prototypes just enough to have to do them again. I'm glad I only did one each. The other stuff is ready and i guess will be going out soon. With this economy the way it is it was very hard to judge demand. We want to make sure everyone who wants these can get one. I am already planning another run of M-90 Emancipators, but am having a hard time finding grips. I am working on my own panels right now. I am not sure how you guys would feel about that for the next run. I like the tactile feel of the rubber grips personally. Take 2 on the emag triggers will happen with the next run.

[Shirow]

Sorry but I screwed up the emag trigger prototypes just enough to have to do them again. I'm glad I only did one each. The other stuff is ready and i guess will be going out soon. With this economy the way it is it was very hard to judge demand. We want to make sure everyone who wants these can get one. I am already planning another run of M-90 Emancipators, but am having a hard time finding grips. I am working on my own panels right now. I am not sure how you guys would feel about that for the next run. I like the tactile feel of the rubber grips personally. Take 2 on the emag triggers will happen with the next run.

I don't mind rubber grips but I hate the IR3 grips because of the LED part. I actually kinda like the look of the frosted grips on the new Tritons.

[kwood]

hey magnus what if you took a pole of who all would buy them
lets say the poll could be release dates,
who all would buy a frame if released, this week, week of christmas, after christmas or whatever
just a thought that way you can get an idea of what the supply and demand looks like

[Shirow]

hey magnus what if you took a pole of who all would buy them
lets say the poll could be release dates,
who all would buy a frame if released, this week, week of christmas, after christmas or whatever
just a thought that way you can get an idea of what the supply and demand looks like

I would be willing to bet money at least 25% of the people saying 'I'd buy now' would back out if you actually posted them for sale though.

This is the tough thing with not doing preorders and I have a lot of respect for 'Magnus' for putting the frames up with no preorders. I'm pretty confident that there will be an early rush of buyers, but how many.. I don't know.

[kwood]

I would be willing to bet money at least 25% of the people saying 'I'd buy now' would back out if you actually posted them for sale though.

This is the tough thing with not doing preorders and I have a lot of respect for 'Magnus' for putting the frames up with no preorders. I'm pretty confident that there will be an early rush of buyers, but how many.. I don't know.


i agree completely
w/o doing a preorder he would have a hard time coming up with some actual numbers
if he has made 50 pieces to sell in the first run and only 40 people respond to the pole
then he shouldnt make the 2nd run immediately

thats all i was trying to do was help figure out a way to come up with some real numbers so he doesnt make more than he needs

[Shirow]

i agree completely
w/o doing a preorder he would have a hard time coming up with some actual numbers
if he has made 50 pieces to sell in the first run and only 40 people respond to the pole
then he shouldnt make the 2nd run immediately

thats all i was trying to do was help figure out a way to come up with some real numbers so he doesnt make more than he needs

Yeah, I hear ya.

Well, either way I'll buy one just to show my support, that's part of the reason I've bought stuff from Rogue.. when people are willing to put $ out there, I like to support the mag 'scene'

So get these Emancipators on the shelves and I'll pick one up!

[kwood]

Yeah, I hear ya.

Well, either way I'll buy one just to show my support, that's part of the reason I've bought stuff from Rogue.. when people are willing to put $ out there, I like to support the mag 'scene'

So get these Emancipators on the shelves and I'll pick one up!

me too, i was hoping the new RPG frames would be coming around as well but im not sure when rogue will be starting those

[Shirow]

Magnus,

Any chance of these shipping this year or are we looking at 2010?

[SSP REAPER]

I would be willing to bet money at least 25% of the people saying 'I'd buy now' would back out if you actually posted them for sale though.

If these were to hit now I'd buy one. And I only say that when I can make the commitment. There is a difference between illusional want and actual want. I happen to have an actual want for this product :D

[Ando]

If these were to hit now I'd buy one. And I only say that when I can make the commitment. There is a difference between illusional want and actual want. I happen to have an actual want for this product :D
/agree...

Reaper didn't have an issue when he was selling the Goblin. Think it took a week or 2 to get the people and he had the order in. You just need to know who your dealing with. Tuna's dealt with enough of us to know who's serious and who's not.

I'm down for 1 myself and after I get to play with it a little and see that it is all that and a bag of chips, I'll probably be buying 2 more to replace a few other grips.

[Shirow]

Same here, I've given up my ideas of building a sleeper with a non vert frame so I'm ready and waiting.. assuming they are not $250 :)

Only thing that would turn me off right now would be an exorbitant price.

[SSP REAPER]

Also remember the first batch price may be a little more because of prototype's being made and what not. Always cheaper when you have more items to batch together and produce :p

Ando:
Everyone who wanted one of the Goblin's confirmed and paid. That's why I love doing business here and on BEO. When people say they want...they want :cool:

[kwood]

well i still remember him saying that the price would be reasonable and competitive so i dont think we have to worry about the frames costing an arm and a leg

[Tunaman]

These frames are now in my hands. Email me quick before they are gone. tunaman5@comcast.net

[kwood]

These frames are now in my hands. Email me quick before they are gone. tunaman5@comcast.net

im so happy
emailing now

[BigEvil]

Got any triggers for me?

[Tunaman]

Got any triggers for me?
Yes. There are a few. ;)

[Shirow]

Holy macaroni.

[kwood]

payment sent

[Tunaman]

at this rate they will be gone within the hour. Only a few left now,,,

[Stayhuge]

Emailed you. I would like a trigger def and maybe a frame, depending on price. Thanks Tuna!!!

[BigEvil]

:dance: http://www.bigevilonline.com/images/smilies/dance2.gif http://www.bigevilonline.com/images/smilies/bananacha.gif

[SSP REAPER]

WOOOOHOOOOOO they're hereeeeee :clap:

[kwood]

WOOOOHOOOOOO they're hereeeeee :clap:

and they will be gone just as soon as they arrived, email tuna asap if you want one

[Stayhuge]

Money sent for a trigger!!! AWESOME!!! :cheers:

[Shirow]

Hope I got in quick enough.

[Ando]

Hope I got in quick enough.
I don't know, your 33 min late to the game :rolleyes: :rofl:

[Shirow]

I don't know, your 33 min late to the game :rolleyes: :rofl:

There was only two left when I asked, and I sat there trying to decide if I wanted to buy one or not for about 20 minutes :p

[Stayhuge]

There was only two left when I asked, and I sat there trying to decide if I wanted to buy one or not for about 20 minutes :p

I am still debating, but I just can't afford the price right now. Congrads to those that picked one up :cheers:

[Shirow]

I couldn't either really, just hoping I can sell my intelliframe+viperblade pro for a decent amount to cover part of it =p

[SSP REAPER]

I got out of work at 4 and home by 4:15. It was too late for me to secure one :(

Well....Here's to round # 2 :cheers:

[Smoothice]

:cry:

[Shirow]

Well, I don't know for sure that I have one yet. Tuna hasn't confirmed. So I might be :cry: in a minute.

[bunny5]

Tuna- sent you back an email... hope u can find it in your inbox....lol

:cheers:

[zondo]

:cry:

Agree...

No love for west coasters :(

I'm in for round two. I think Tuna just got sick of us complaining :p

EDIT: How many were in this run??

[Shirow]

Agree...

No love for west coasters :(

I'm in for round two. I think Tuna just got sick of us complaining :p

EDIT: How many were in this run??

Must have been very few, when I emailed Tuna (which was almost instantly) there were 2 left.

[Spazmok]

is it true? am i too late on round one?! :cry:

[Tunaman]

well out of 25, there were a handfull of "insiders...mafia type" that got clipped off the top so there werent that many left..

[Shirow]

well out of 25, there were a handfull of "insiders...mafia type" that got clipped off the top so there werent that many left..

So did I make it? :p

[Tunaman]

So did I make it? :p
Yup. You got the Dust Black...and man is it sweet. ;)

[SSP REAPER]

so when does round 2 happen? :p :cool:

[Tunaman]

One guy backed out...only ONE left. Gloss black. Next person to email me will own it. tunaman5@comcast.net

[Shirow]

Yup. You got the Dust Black...and man is it sweet. ;)

Yay

[SSP REAPER]

Yay
now you definately need that CP ASA :D
need me to get ahold of Loguzzzzzz to mill it for you?

[Shirow]

now you definately need that CP ASA :D
need me to get ahold of Loguzzzzzz to mill it for you?

Already done!

[SSP REAPER]

Already done!
excellent. you will be pleased with his level of perfectionism :wow:

[SSP REAPER]

One guy backed out...only ONE left. Gloss black. Next person to email me will own it. tunaman5@comcast.net
any luck completely selling out Tuna?

[Shirow]

Now I just need to decide if I will keep the talon trigger or throw my viperblade pro in there.. :bounce: