Who is still rockin the warp?

[punkncat]

I just picked up a warp setup for the ULE mag I picked up. I am looking forward to shooting some folks with it over the next two months in preperation for AO South.

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/259/259802/pages/1108833/warp001.JPG

Anyone else still shooting these?

[wimag]

been there, done that. seeing as you play air ball you wont have it long.

[punkncat]

been there, done that. seeing as you play air ball you wont have it long.


Lol, probably right. This is my fifth one.

[Shirow]

I've been shooting one for about 5 years.. took it off today due to a malfunction... might just keep running vert at this point.

[kevdupuis]

Six years with one and counting.
http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa125/kevdupuis/paintball/brass026.jpg

[punkncat]

What is that Kev, an unmilled Slug body or something? Not familiar with the square shape....

[kevdupuis]

Its a custom 7 sided cut short slugg and rtp rail with large flat sides and triangular top. I did it back in 02 when the slugg first came out. if you see it in person there are 14 faceted cuts on the body alone.

[Beemer]

^^^cool now get a better pic of it cause I cant see the cuts in that one. :(


I've been shooting one for about 5 years.. took it off today due to a malfunction... might just keep running vert at this point.

Go ahead put the BLIMP back up there. :tard:


Anyone else still shooting these?

Does this answer your question. I lost the blimp on top as soon as the warp came out and never looked back. ALL my Mags sport a warp without the elbow. Lose the freaking elbow you dont need. ;)

http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/WarpFeedXMag.JPG
:clap:
http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/WarpXMag2.JPG

Dont make me post the TK warp lesson Vid again. If you dont get it I guess you need to be an Actor. :eek:

[dicetomato]

Been using mine on my Tac-one for a while now, however I recently got and installed a pneumatic trigger and the LPR is inside the grip and the warp would block the air from my ASA so I'm going to have to look into something else :(. A shame really, I get comments about it being too bulky and such but paintball isn't for the weak ;).

[druid]

I am on my ProClassic with Hyper frame. Wish it were smoke though...mine's the amber/orange colored shells......

[GRimm]

Yep, been running a warp on my emag since I got it.

http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg300/GRimm240sx/E-Mag012.jpg
http://i251.photobucket.com/albums/gg300/GRimm240sx/E-Mag010.jpg

[Redic]

yep i sill am
both are moded also

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/redic115/markers/PDR_0295.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d151/redic115/markers/randompics043.jpg

[BigEvil]

Old pic. At Beemers pestering I removed the elbow. I also use that super hose, which is awesome and feeds even if you tie it in a knot.


http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s338/BigEvilOnline/My%20markers/IMG_0439.jpg

[GRimm]

Yea I love my super hose, I only wish I had a longer one to mess around with.

[zondo]

I will be as soon as the new micromag arrives on my doorstep.

What is this "superhose"?

:confused:

[Beemer]

Old pic. At Beemers pestering I removed the elbow.

New Pics or shens slacker. :argh:

[fishmishin]

It's a work in progress, but this will be my first one !!

http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo100/fishmishin/101_5902.jpg
http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo100/fishmishin/101_5903.jpg

[Beemer]

I will be as soon as the new micromag arrives on my doorstep.

What is this "superhose"? :confused:

This stuff rocks steel coil spring inforced. Its all I use for all my warp applications. :eek: :clap:

http://www.proteamdirect.com/bprofwarhos.html

[Beemer]

It's a work in progress, but this will be my first one !!

Nice I dont see an elbow even with the vert feed which would be the only time you really need it. Put a warp body on it and coat that ring on the batt plug so you dont scratch the pretty anno. ;)

[fishmishin]

The WL body is in the works currently, and this one is going back off for new anno soon if I find someone good to send it to.

[buzzboy]

If I still had a PF/R body I would rock the warp hardcore. My revy is even still pocketed(didn't want to drill holes in her). My old one was just so kickarse. Minimag, Y frame and warp. Just so tite, then I added my 92/45 on a bottom line to make the compactness pointless. I played a bit of airball with her with no problems. I had somebody tell me I was deadly out the right side. I never did get used to going left with it though.

[ManInBlack]

I'm rockin' the warp in my Classic RT. Damn thing is heavy...

http://i121.photobucket.com/albums/o234/CrashInBlack/Paintball/DSCF1505.jpg

[Beemer]

I'm rockin' the warp in my Classic RT. Damn thing is heavy...

Ya think? Use a smaller hopper. Whats that thing hold ten pounds of paint? :hail:

[DoubleDutch]

I still rock my Warped Classic with a cut-down left standard feed SS body. An X-Valve is on the way, with a WL ULE body to follow hopefully soon, and someday I will get E-Mag or Pneumag lowers.
<img src="http://home.comcast.net/~yuk/popo/DSC_5528.JPG" width="1280"></img>

[MANN]

I use to only run a warp setup. I ran one for years so I feel that I can comment on them.

When you shoot around a bunker/tree/whatever do you look over it with your head? If so how is that not the same as putting a hopper out?

Why not just angle your marker?

[Ratt]

I still have a warp on my emag.

http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb91/RogerRamirezJr/DSC00519.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb91/RogerRamirezJr/DSC00520.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb91/RogerRamirezJr/DSC00524.jpg

I also have one on my Spyder Rocking Trigger-framed Tribal Mephisto
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb91/RogerRamirezJr/DSC00525.jpg
http://i209.photobucket.com/albums/bb91/RogerRamirezJr/DSC00526.jpg

[jonmcfatty]

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a348/jonmcfatty/paintball/emaga.jpg

I wil never play without a warp again :shooting:

[Shirow]

Go ahead put the BLIMP back up there. :tard:


Well, having run a warp for 5 years I feel I've had enough experience to know the pros and cons :)

I play solely woodsball and I don't find that, if I get taken out, it's due to hopper hits. What I really liked about the warp was being able to sight well down the body, being able to rotate the gun and the intellifeed.

What I liked yesterday when I was forced not to run it was the loss of weight, not worrying about failure (which has happened to me a couple of times on the field) and not having to spend 30 minutes trying to clean behind my warp when I get hit in it (which seemed to happen to me all too often...)

After I repair it, I'll probably throw it back on but I didn't find running vert as bad as I thought I would yesterday.

[buzzboy]

I use to only run a warp setup. I ran one for years so I feel that I can comment on them.

When you shoot around a bunker/tree/whatever do you look over it with your head? If so how is that not the same as putting a hopper out?

Why not just angle your marker?
I don't always peek out all the way. For one thing I have never been good at wrapping a bunker so I would stick out my barrel and I know ways to tilt my head so just this much(see me gesticulating) of my mask sticks out. I found it especially useful on very hard or very large bunkers. Small dorito's and the like I can wrap because the top has give but like an X or a big can just won't move for me.

EDIT: After reading the above comment I remembered one other thing. I really don't like 45° feednecks on top of my minimag(my old minimag now). I found it to just be a precarious perch that would easily swivel.

[Beemer]

I use to only run a warp setup. I ran one for years so I feel that I can comment on them.

When you shoot around a bunker/tree/whatever do you look over it with your head? If so how is that not the same as putting a hopper out?

Why not just angle your marker?

Well the question is "Who is still rockin the warp?"

You need to be an Actor to understand. You need to watch the AGD Warp lesson Vid.

Theres is no doubt with the blimp on top you have a larger target area.

http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/BlimpWarp.gif


The look that you are achieving with this is a clean top of the gun


You, the Bad guy have the advantage of shooting like this


you can lean this over pretty hard


I wish I could have all paintball players be Actors

The Classic AGD Warp lesson Vid.

http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/TomKayeWarpLesson.wmv

[A-Tach-One]

I used to shoot warp but have found the hopper on top is more comfy for me in every way. I just work on my technique and not hang my hopper out there. If you shoot my hopper then shame on me, I deserve to be out. :D

Here is what I used to run.
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/4841/warpsupx1lq0.th.jpg (http://img66.imageshack.us/i/warpsupx1lq0.jpg/)

[Shirow]

So, in a warp related question - I recently got a vert feed ULE body and realized the plastic warp elbow doesn't actually fit into a feed neck, it needs basically a screw in tube to clamp onto. Does anyone know where I can get something like this for a mag?

[zondo]

So, in a warp related question - I recently got a vert feed ULE body and realized the plastic warp elbow doesn't actually fit into a feed neck, it needs basically a screw in tube to clamp onto. Does anyone know where I can get something like this for a mag?

I think Tuna may have some. For some reason, I think I have 2 different types of elbows, one to fit over a warp tube and one to fit in a feedneck.

[Watcher]

I've had a warp since before I had 'Mags.

I'll post a pic when I get home from work.


I use it for airball all the time, I don't know why some people say you won't have it long if you play speedball...

It is my primary speedball setup.



I also made a warp-lesson video. Again, I'll post it up when I get home.

[Zone Drifter]

Dum-de-dum... Woodsball style anyone?

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d51/Fexus/camowarp1.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d51/Fexus/camowarp2.jpg

http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d51/Fexus/yankeepaintball062908.jpg

[cockerpunk]

the only warp i "rock" is my sandridge

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y161/gerglmuff/Paintball/DSC01104.jpg

and can be seen here in High Speed - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjoI1ELBLVk

[DamianTC]

I got my first warp last october. I bought a new Emag and decided to get a warp setup with it to try it out. Since then, now both of my main mags are warped. Its not for the fact that it reduces gun hits. Both fields I play at dont count gun hits. Its the straight sight you got down the barrel, the smoothness of the balls loading into your gun inline with each other, shooting at horizontal angles, and don't forget going to home depot to buy bulk packs of 9v batteries. I love that place. Last time I was there for batteries. I walked out with a new grill and firepit, and the 9v's lol

[mpsd]

The Classic AGD Warp lesson Vid.

http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/TomKayeWarpLesson.wmv

I want a t-shirt like that! LOL

Who's the guy Tom was teaching?

[Shirow]

The other reason I'm contemplating going back to vert feed is that I plan to pick up one of the magnus frames and setup a sleeper pneumag.. which is going to be hard to do with the warp bracket.

[Watcher]

I want a t-shirt like that! LOL

Who's the guy Tom was teaching?

He's the "Bad Guy" from the movie SPLATT. It sucks, don't watch it.


My setup:

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/9601/agd.jpg


And my instructions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqSKn7BreGw

[MANN]

Theres is no doubt with the blimp on top you have a larger target area.

http://home.comcast.net/~beemerone/BlimpWarp.gif



You know the guy shooting is using horrible form.
That is a good video of TK showing people how to use it. I still think there would be something to shoot, but maybe not.

[FutureMagOwner]

I'm currently working on a project that allows you to mount a hopper like a warpfeed without needing the actual warp. I'm wondering if theres a market out there for it outside of current warp users though. I think there is, because it takes the advantage of the warp (reduced profile) and eliminates all the issues that I personally had with the warp (extra weight, clutter, and the fact that its basically using two hoppers to do the job of one). I will show you guys what I've made once I get my prototype working and make sure my ideas are protected, if you'd be interested.

[Watcher]

I'm currently working on a project that allows you to mount a hopper like a warpfeed without needing the actual warp. I'm wondering if theres a market out there for it outside of current warp users though. I think there is, because it takes the advantage of the warp (reduced profile) and eliminates all the issues that I personally had with the warp (extra weight, clutter, and the fact that its basically using two hoppers to do the job of one). I will show you guys what I've made once I get my prototype working and make sure my ideas are protected, if you'd be interested.


Probably just a halo remodeled with a mount and output hose right?

I know a few people working on those. I don't see any advantages over my warp, as my warp plus the Rico weight about as much as a stock ReloaderB...

[Chace]

It's a work in progress, but this will be my first one !!

http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo100/fishmishin/101_5902.jpg
http://i365.photobucket.com/albums/oo100/fishmishin/101_5903.jpg
You better keep that in the shop just in case I pop on by one of these days.

[nickakathebest]

i got mine still loving it i dont have a pic to post :(

[punkncat]

It's awesome seeing all the pics come out of the woodwork.

I took mine to the field yesterday. I was unable to play a game with it because the RT effect is so hard, this thing has to be shooting around 15-16+ BPS. I took it down to the chrono area for some testing, and between the "oohs and ahs", the "what is that?", and everyone else wanting to shoot it, I got to fire one hopper of paint through it.

I am looking forward to getting the LX tuned correctly, and getting the ULT set up right so I can actually use it there. It is nice to say that with the 12V mod on the warp, it was keeping up nicely with long strings.

[Ando]

My Beast of Burden

Just came off the field so she's dirty :p
http://i26.tinypic.com/2iik9k9.jpg
http://i31.tinypic.com/dhg9d3.jpg

And punkncat, keep removing ULT shims or lower your pressure till you get your desired ROF. ;)

[pump]

OMG after seeing that first mag i take back ALL what i said about guns needing to be underfeeding to use a warp

i now have a new mag goal in my life

thank you :hail:

[Flatliner333]

I have been playing for a long time but have only started using a warp this year. I love it...I hope to get another one soon so I can have both my Mags set up the same.

<a href="http://s382.photobucket.com/albums/oo263/patrickmason/?action=view&current=Eddie1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo263/patrickmason/Eddie1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
<a href="http://s382.photobucket.com/albums/oo263/patrickmason/?action=view&current=Eddie5.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo263/patrickmason/Eddie5.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[Shirow]

Yeah, I think this thread might've convinced me to throw mine back on ;) Just need to get it repaired and find a feed tube for my vert body.

[VFX_Fenix]

Sadly I'm leaving this "select few". I will say though, after playing with a Warp I don't see why I'd ever play without one again.

[Big'n slo]

http://home.comcast.net/~jeffreykier/pics/Tac1/tac1.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jeffreykier/pics/Tac1/tac1a.JPG

[Watcher]

Sadly I'm leaving this "select few". I will say though, after playing with a Warp I don't see why I'd ever play without one again.

Then don't :D

[BigEvil]

http://home.comcast.net/~jeffreykier/pics/Tac1/tac1.jpg
http://home.comcast.net/~jeffreykier/pics/Tac1/tac1a.JPG


Damnjeff, look at all that dust :eek: Clean that thing off and come up to West Point this weekend. :shooting:

[vf-xx]

I still run one. And while I 'can' play without one, I don't like it.

That said, i'm still fighting my warp. Trying to find a good battery for it that isn't a 9volt..

[Ando]

I still run one. And while I 'can' play without one, I don't like it.

That said, i'm still fighting my warp. Trying to find a good battery for it that isn't a 9volt..
They make a 4 AA pack for it I think. What else are you looking for and what's your reasons why don't you like the 9v setup?

[Spider-TW]

He's the "Bad Guy" from the movie SPLATT. It sucks, don't watch it.


My setup:

http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/9601/agd.jpg


And my instructions:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FqSKn7BreGw
The power feed - hopper right bodies always seemed like a good choice for warps or q-loaders to me. I'm a little surprised that there aren't more pics with them.

[vf-xx]

They make a 4 AA pack for it I think. What else are you looking for and what's your reasons why don't you like the 9v setup?

Working with some RC style Lithium *insert other component here* cells.

Reasons against 9V: weight, and price. I'm trying to find one nice rechargeable pack that'll last me forever.

[Shirow]

The power feed - hopper right bodies always seemed like a good choice for warps or q-loaders to me. I'm a little surprised that there aren't more pics with them.

That's what I use right now but they're a bit of a pain if/when your warp dies (plus it's hard to find twistlock barrel kits). I'm trying to get setup to run a warp into a vert body just so I can get used to it before I get my noxious body :p

[Watcher]

The power feed - hopper right bodies always seemed like a good choice for warps or q-loaders to me. I'm a little surprised that there aren't more pics with them.

They actually make PF Warp-Left bodies, which is what that is. I didn't cut down the feed-tube.

I like the retroness of it (Trying to keep my RT Pro as "classic" as possible and when I get the Micro it's going to be as "modern" as possible) only it does interfere with being able to sight down the top of the gun, which is what the warp is basically made for.

I can do it, but there is a bit of obstruction. That is why most of the PF-Plug is shaved off.

A ULE WL body would work better, but I like my stainless and Twist-Lock.

[snoopay700]

The power feed - hopper right bodies always seemed like a good choice for warps or q-loaders to me. I'm a little surprised that there aren't more pics with them.
As far as the q-loader i can probably fill that, twist lock detents are weak, so weak that it is the only time my level 10 broke paint and got stuck forward. It being winter might not have helped, but i got rid of it as soon after that as i could, and at a loss too.

[Watcher]

As far as the q-loader i can probably fill that, twist lock detents are weak, so weak that it is the only time my level 10 broke paint and got stuck forward. It being winter might not have helped, but i got rid of it as soon after that as i could, and at a loss too.

I can see that, especially if the barrel is single detent. I know some field paint around me that will just roll out of my ACI barrel. More often than not I end up using the stock barrel.

[fishmishin]

I just picked up a warp setup for the ULE mag I picked up. I am looking forward to shooting some folks with it over the next two months in preperation for AO South.

http://216.77.188.54/coDataImages/p/Groups/259/259802/pages/1108833/warp001.JPG

Anyone else still shooting these?

I have to tell you, I love the way that marker looks set up the way it is. :shooting: I keep going back to look at it every time I check this post. Had to quote ya on the 2nd page so I could look at it from here, and not go back to the 1st page, lol.

[pump]

I have to tell you, I love the way that marker looks set up the way it is. :shooting: I keep going back to look at it every time I check this post. Had to quote ya on the 2nd page so I could look at it from here, and not go back to the 1st page, lol.
same here

im all up ons

[punkncat]

Aw, shucks guys....... :D



Thanks

[snoopay700]

I can see that, especially if the barrel is single detent. I know some field paint around me that will just roll out of my ACI barrel. More often than not I end up using the stock barrel.
Yeah i actually don't like the stock barrel on my RT so i end up using my crown point, it's probably something to do with the barrel tip or something. But because of that the q-loader was a mess for me.

[Enhander]

Still rocking the Warp! I love it!! Im currently switching between the warp and the Longbow setup on my Tac-One. When I get another Emag, ill put the Warp back on the Emag, but until now I switch between the 2 :)

[Watcher]

Yeah i actually don't like the stock barrel on my RT so i end up using my crown point, it's probably something to do with the barrel tip or something. But because of that the q-loader was a mess for me.

I thought the RT stock barrel WAS a crown point, unless you mean the original one?

[snoopay700]

I thought the RT stock barrel WAS a crown point, unless you mean the original one?
No, it's not really a crown point, the original crown point had the barrel fade away (and do nothing) the RT barrel is the inverse of the crown point, and doesn't really look like a crown, but then again it's all semantics.

[Shirow]

So, FYI, anyone looking to warp feed a vert mag without a feedneck, PTP has the warp feed tubes that screw into an angel threaded body for $9.95, I just bought one. They come standard matte black. Nothing special, just a tube with angel threading on it but it seems to do the job :)

[Watcher]

So, FYI, anyone looking to warp feed a vert mag without a feedneck, PTP has the warp feed tubes that screw into an angel threaded body for $9.95, I just bought one. They come standard matte black. Nothing special, just a tube with angel threading on it but it seems to do the job :)


Or you can file off the clamp for the screw on the 90 degree elbow that comes with the warp, and stuff it IN any standard vert-feed.

The screw isn't needed to tighten anything down, even when it clamps around a feedneck it is snug as is...

[Shirow]

Or you can file off the clamp for the screw on the 90 degree elbow that comes with the warp, and stuff it IN any standard vert-feed.

The screw isn't needed to tighten anything down, even when it clamps around a feedneck it is snug as is...

Yeah, someone suggested that to me, I just decided I wanted to try to get rid of the feedneck.

[DoubleDutch]

I rocked the Warp last weekend at the "Wrath of Cobra Commander" Big Game at Dynamic Paintball in Aurora, CO. I was the only one, got a lot of questions.
<a href="http://home.comcast.net/~yuk/popo/DSC04465.JPG"><img src="http://home.comcast.net/~yuk/popo/DSC04465.JPG" width="600" height="335"></img></a>

[FutureMagOwner]

Probably just a halo remodeled with a mount and output hose right?

I know a few people working on those. I don't see any advantages over my warp, as my warp plus the Rico weight about as much as a stock ReloaderB...

Sorry, forgot to respond to this a while ago, I kinda forgot that I posted in this thread until now. It has similarities but its a different take on a hopper that I think people will hopefully want to buy. Right now I am waiting to save up some money to get a prototype made before moving on to developing a final product.

[druid]

I just got......THE BEST STOCK - EVER CREATED!!! Killjoy industries ROC Stock is THE absolute BOMB!

It came preassembled for me in the Left-hand configuration [at my request], with the small adapter plate installed. I ended up taking that one off in favor of the large plate. Installation is a snap and is actually ROCK SOLID in the receiver. There is ABSOLUTELY NO movement where it pins in place.

However...this thread's about the Warp so I warped my A5 :D



Pics
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/Paintball/A5/a5001-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/Paintball/A5/a5003-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/Paintball/A5/a5004.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/Paintball/A5/a5005.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/Paintball/A5/a5007.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/Paintball/A5/a5008.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/Paintball/A5/a5006.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/Paintball/A5/a5002-1.jpg

[pump]

now thats the revenge of stickfeeds!

i think i need to try that

[zondo]

Druid, is that just some PVC from your warp to the feedneck?

[druid]

LOL pump.

zondo...yes it's PVC but not your standard PVC. It has an outside diameter of 3/4" but the wall is only ~1mm thick. It fits perfectly into a standard 3/4" PVC elbow but not a 'female' copper elbow...it's about 1/8" too small in diameter. I had to wrap a few layers of masking tape around the pipe to get it to fit tightly.

EDIT:
Dug out my sewing machine and made some camo covers tonight:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/Paintball/A5/a5camo001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/Paintball/A5/a5camo002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v388/druidsdecendant/Paintball/A5/a5camo003.jpg

[Shirow]

Here is my re-warped mag. Moved to a vert feed body and used the PTP tube to clamp my 90* elbow onto. It's not quite as clean as the minimag was but makes it easier if I need to switch to vert feed ;) Also means I can use my J&J edge kit with it!

I need to get a plug for the vert ASA as I recently switched away from a drop and it doesn't really make much sense to run it through the gas through grip anymore.

http://digitalgunfire.com/gallery/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=293&g2_serialNumber=2

[maniacmechanic]

well here's mine ; same warp setup used on 2 markers , remove 1 bolt & I can change it between the 2 markers

The X

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m156/maniacmechanic59/markers/XMagWarped001.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m156/maniacmechanic59/markers/XMagWarped002.jpg

The Z ( Soon to be all Matte Black )

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m156/maniacmechanic59/markers/warpedZ002.jpg

http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m156/maniacmechanic59/markers/warpedZ001.jpg

[Hgblues]

Ok, I started runnin a warp feed before they ever hit the market, in 2000 was it? I play nothing but tournaments. First mounted it on my b2k, won the first tourney I ever used it in (warped sportz open 3 man), and won many tournaments since then with it. The most recent being a cfoa 5 man event ( year or so ago). In 2k5 I switched to an Alias Timmy and mounted my warp on it also. I realize the vert hopper "postures" have changed by leaning the hopper in, etc. , however, you are still exposing a shoulder / forearm / elbow, and coming over the top of a bunker is just plain scary with a hopper on top. The ONLY thing that would make me consider going vertical is the fact that now you can have a gun with a tank that could weigh less than 5 lbs, (even close to 4), where my current setup (EP mag) weighs 8.3 lbs mounted up. I'm no sissy, but, losing 3 to 4 lbs will drastically increase how quick I can pop and shoot. However, even then I donno if it will outweigh the minimum exposure of the warp.

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/7219/copyofdsc0026sw3.jpg (http://img266.imageshack.us/i/copyofdsc0026sw3.jpg/) http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3268/bannpictz5.jpg (http://img266.imageshack.us/i/bannpictz5.jpg/) http://img141.imageshack.us/img141/1406/mardigrasopen.jpg (http://img141.imageshack.us/i/mardigrasopen.jpg/)

[pump]

http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/3268/bannpictz5.jpgBushmasters, word

[cockerpunk]

Bushmasters, word

i was gonna note the TK like 'stache hes rockin.

[cdc120602]

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q197/cdc120602/Automag%20Classic/IMG_0729.jpg
My new baby!

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q197/cdc120602/Automag%20Classic/Automag007.jpg
My backup

I play woodsball, but I still like having the hopper down. It just feels better for some reason and it does help with sighting down the barrel.