I think I have the disease known as Magitis.

[tbaggin]

I cant believe how sickening Mags can be. I was warned by some of my fellow AO'rs about what I was getting myself into, but i didnt listen, and now I cant stop. Does anyone in mag land know a cure ( besides an angry wife, LOL)

Oh yeah, and BTW. on a serious note, i would like to thank those who post on my advice threads, esp Loguzzzzzz and smoothice who i talk to alot, thank you all for your advice and help. if it werent for you all here on AO, i wouldnt have my collection i have now.





http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m226/tbaggin26/MISC/paintball/DSCN2168.jpg

[maniacmechanic]

I think the ONLY 2 cures are the , angry wife cure & the living under the bridge cure
I'm a minor collector , Last count was 12 Mags & some off brands

[DevilMan]

I think the only cure is called bankruptcy.... and that's only temporary!

DM

[tbaggin]

i like the us maggers think, LOL.

[bishop*ru]

Magitis is hard to cure if it can be cured at all. whats even harder to cure is an angry wife, we all have one those, maybe a pink mag will do it? :p

[Smoothice]

Yeah its only curable by finances or blunt force from a wife.

So until either of those are an issue... Whore away!!!! :dance:

[TwilightG]

I ran out of money :(
I only have 3 with no chance of another for quite a while

[maniacmechanic]

I ran out of money :(
I only have 3 with no chance of another for quite a while

Come on , there's allways the Plasma bank :rolleyes:

[tbaggin]

you can ask smooth or loguzzzz, I have come across some of the craziest deals on mags, other wise i would have what i do.

im a sucker for good deals.

[WarHamster]

you can ask smooth or loguzzzz, I have come across some of the craziest deals on mags, other wise i would have what i do.

im a sucker for good deals.

Speaking of good deals, you willing to cut me one to sell me my old Alien Micromag back? I regret selling her... :cry:

[Ratt]

I think the ONLY 2 cures are the , angry wife cure & the living under the bridge cure
I'm a minor collector , Last count was 12 Mags & some off brands

I have found that 'angry wife' is the absolute most effective cure. :(

[ElPanda]

3 sydarms :tard:

[CatoRockwell]

I know this is a long shot, but any interest in selling off one of those emag lowers? ;)

[tbaggin]

PM'd cat.

[xero28]

I have found that 'angry wife' is the absolute most effective cure. :(

Fortunately it's only a temporary cure until she forgets and/or doesn't pay attention to the mailbox. ;)

Nice collection, really like that Micro.

[tbaggin]

Fortunately it's only a temporary cure until she forgets and/or doesn't pay attention to the mailbox. ;)

Nice collection, really like that Micro.


thank you :headbang:

that is why I ship all my stuff to my shop, then i can sneak it to the garage when i get home, LOL. :ninja:

[Mr. Mouse]

sick ego mag and pump

[fishmishin]

Those lowers do go really good with that body and rail, nice.
There isn't a real cure by the way, 13 years of the sickness, and I'm not looking for a cure. It's like asking if you really want the H1N1 vaccine. I'll take my chances !!

[Smoothice]

There are definetely different stages of the disease though. Its actually more like an addiction.

First you have a taste = someone lets you borrow there e-karta. You go running around the field like a madman spraying paint.

Then you think. Hmm thats pretty good. I like that. Maybe I will upgrade my classic mag.

Next thing you do is start buying some small upgrades. Rt on/off. Double trigger frame. Make that trigger pull a little lighter.

It starts slow. A piece here and there. Next thing you know you have a fairly up'ed classic.

But now you have all these extra parts. First you think you can sell them.

So you sell a few pieces. That feels surprisingly good too. Well now you have some extra cash in your hand. Free money you think. Maybe its time to put some pneumatics in that double trigger frame you just got.

So now you start building a pneumag. But with the added fire power you realize maybe a barrel kit would be nice. You eye a cocker threaded barrel. Time to sell the classic body and get a ule.

So the cycle continues until you have a fully up'ed pneumag with all the bells and whistles.

But you still have the taste of that e-karta.

You do some quick math and realize maybe you can sell your pnuemag frame and buy some emag lowers for just a little bit more.

Once you find those now you need a new valve. May as well shed some weight and get an x valve.

Now you have over $700 into this mag. You have bought and sold a whole bunch of parts. Then a great deal comes up for a custom body. Sure you have to buy the whole mag. But you know you can sell the pieces you don't need.

Once you create your new master piece you realize you can build a second mag.
You convince yourself you should have a "loaner" for a friend.

Next thing you know you have a whole arsenal of markers. You think about all of them as members of the family. You are now a magaddict!

Then one day you make the horrible mistake of figuring out how much money you have invested into your collection. You hate yourself. You try to convince yourself to sell something. This will justify the other purchases. You have now hit rock bottom.

So you sell a few markers. Or maybe just a few pieces. But just as you think you are detoxing the addiction. A Xmag body comes up for sale. You already have lowers and a valve. All you need is the body to have an XMAG. You buy it without a second thought.

And the cycle continues.

[DevilMan]

^^^^^^^^^^^^ :hail:

What he said X infinity!

DM

[Ando]

:clap: :clap: :clap: @ Smoothice

[zondo]

:rofl:

I just convinced myself I needed a loaner too!

[jade_monkey07]

Iv gone through that whole cycle...im on relapse 2 right now OMG I NEED HELP

Smoothice, you need to post that in its own thread and it needs to be stickied lmao

[lil'Greg]

my only regret with Automags is that i only found this place a few months ago :cry:

[punkncat]

I think the only cure is being broke.... and that's only temporary!

DM


Fixed.


Yeah, you have quite a sickness going there.....are Mags all you have in your collection?

[BigEvil]

We need to get "magtitis" included in the Obamacare legislation. Maybe we can get some stimulus funds thrown our way.....

[Ravenneon]

We need to get "magtitis" included in the Obamacare legislation. Maybe we can get some stimulus funds thrown our way.....


AMEN!!!

[flyingpootang]

The only cure to stop buying every good deal you see on a mag is to buy every good deal you see on AKA's. This cure was discovered by our very own A-Tach-One....... :eek:

[Smoothice]

The only cure to stop buying every good deal you see on a mag is to buy every good deal you see on AKA's. This cure was discovered by our very own A-Tach-One....... :eek:

Which is great. Cause now the rest of us have a chance at the good mag deals...

[xero28]

+1 to Smoothice's explanation. I started with my 68AutoMag that I'd had since '96. Had a couple of upgrades, but for the most part it was stock. When I got back into paintball a couple of years ago I found AO to see if there was anything I could do to get my Mag up to snuff. Bad idea.

It started with an Intelliframe. "No big deal", I thought. I bought it from Cookies, and he asked me if I had a feedback thread so he could post. "Nah", I said, "this is really the only thing I'm going to buy, so feedback doesn't really matter."

A Level 10, pneumag kit, trade for an X-valve, Micro Body, ULE Body, Y-Frame, trade for another intelli, cheater, etc, etc, later, I've still got the disease. That doesn't even include the 5 Cockers and a Blazer I've also picked up along the way, or the Classic RT and another Classic Mag that I'm trading for this week.

If this is a sickness, I don't want to get better. :shooting:

[Flatliner333]

http://i616.photobucket.com/albums/tt244/flatliner0333/Gollumx.jpg

[BigEvil]

Which is great. Cause now the rest of us have a chance at the good mag deals...
:spit_take

Yeah like you ever miss a good deal.

[Smoothice]

:spit_take

Yeah like you ever miss a good deal.

Please don't make me list the ones I have missed.

I'm still trying to get over them :cry:

[Loguzzzzzz]

There are definetely different stages of the disease though. Its actually more like an addiction.

First you have a taste = someone lets you borrow there e-karta. You go running around the field like a madman spraying paint.

Then you think. Hmm thats pretty good. I like that. Maybe I will upgrade my classic mag.

Next thing you do is start buying some small upgrades. Rt on/off. Double trigger frame. Make that trigger pull a little lighter.

It starts slow. A piece here and there. Next thing you know you have a fairly up'ed classic.

But now you have all these extra parts. First you think you can sell them.

So you sell a few pieces. That feels surprisingly good too. Well now you have some extra cash in your hand. Free money you think. Maybe its time to put some pneumatics in that double trigger frame you just got.

So now you start building a pneumag. But with the added fire power you realize maybe a barrel kit would be nice. You eye a cocker threaded barrel. Time to sell the classic body and get a ule.

So the cycle continues until you have a fully up'ed pneumag with all the bells and whistles.

But you still have the taste of that e-karta.

You do some quick math and realize maybe you can sell your pnuemag frame and buy some emag lowers for just a little bit more.

Once you find those now you need a new valve. May as well shed some weight and get an x valve.

Now you have over $700 into this mag. You have bought and sold a whole bunch of parts. Then a great deal comes up for a custom body. Sure you have to buy the whole mag. But you know you can sell the pieces you don't need.

Once you create your new master piece you realize you can build a second mag.
You convince yourself you should have a "loaner" for a friend.

Next thing you know you have a whole arsenal of markers. You think about all of them as members of the family. You are now a magaddict!

Then one day you make the horrible mistake of figuring out how much money you have invested into your collection. You hate yourself. You try to convince yourself to sell something. This will justify the other purchases. You have now hit rock bottom.

So you sell a few markers. Or maybe just a few pieces. But just as you think you are detoxing the addiction. A Xmag body comes up for sale. You already have lowers and a valve. All you need is the body to have an XMAG. You buy it without a second thought.

And the cycle continues.
Damn that guy with the e-Karta. . . what a :cuss: . . . . He should be shot!

:spit_take

[KC]

Then one day you make the horrible mistake of figuring out how much money you have invested into your collection. You hate yourself. You try to convince yourself to sell something. This will justify the other purchases. You have now hit rock bottom.



:rofl: http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=246685

[Smoothice]

Damn that guy with the e-Karta. . . what a :cuss: . . . . He should be shot!

:spit_take

:ninja:

Oh he will be shot and his little ford focus too. :D



:rofl: http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=246685

;)

[tbaggin]

yeah, people with E-kartas need to be shot. :shooting: but its no fun shooting yourself.


i have 2 of my mags for sale, and i cringe everyday hoping i dont see an offer i will take, but they do need to go.

of course, I will need to see pics of this orange karta, cuz orange is my fav color.

[zondo]

:rofl: http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=246685

Yeah, Nick... you need an E-Karta to go with those Tunablades you picked up a month ago :ninja:

[Smoothice]

Yeah, Nick... you need an E-Karta to go with those Tunablades you picked up a month ago :ninja:

I skipped ekarta and went right to xmag. Although you may have noticed my karta in motm. It may have 1 vote...

As the addiction goes I jumped on a deal a while back that hurt the paintball funds pretty bad. Hence my recent attempts to get rid of stuff. I've almost listed the karta few times. I'm still holding on to that dream though.

[d4m4don3]

I skipped ekarta and went right to xmag. Although you may have noticed my karta in motm. It may have 1 vote...

As the addiction goes I jumped on a deal a while back that hurt the paintball funds pretty bad. Hence my recent attempts to get rid of stuff. I've almost listed the karta few times. I'm still holding on to that dream though.

LOL
He who was once a cheapskate, slowly transformed into a monster incognito style. :cool:

[TeamBob]

Buy a jeep wrangler, slows this disease down to benign, Not by choice though. But when the funds ARENT there, ya cant spend them :(

[zondo]

Buy a jeep wrangler, slows this disease down to benign, Not by choice though. But when the funds ARENT there, ya cant spend them :(

Aren't Jeep Wranglers just as bad as Automags?

[Smoothice]

Aren't Jeep Wranglers just as bad as Automags?
Worse. Shipping is higher and they are harder to hide :p

[TeaQue]

Oh crap..................this thread just made me open my eyes.

I haven't even owned my mag for 2wks and I have 4 grip frames, 2 bodies, 2 barrels, classic valve, 2 fore grips, etc etc

I started with just a lowly 68 classic with an aftermarket barrel and a couple of air leaks :rofl:

[Sumthinwicked]

when u downsize ur collection to 2 / i mean 3 i mean 4 i mean 5 they u know u have an issue L:OL i was going to keep my longbow and my t9
then it was those 2 and my micromag now i have 2 emags to add to it so um yea LOL mind u this is after i have been through over 100 markers ......

[Ando]

Oh crap..................this thread just made me open my eyes.

I haven't even owned my mag for 2wks and I have 4 grip frames, 2 bodies, 2 barrels, classic valve, 2 fore grips, etc etc

I started with just a lowly 68 classic with an aftermarket barrel and a couple of air leaks :rofl:
Well looks to me you have 4 markers that need some tending too.
...
.....
........
...........
What are you waiting on??? ;)

[tbaggin]

this has turned into a very entertaining thread. its nice to know that im not the only one out there with this rare disease. :cheers:

[Smoothice]

this has turned into a very entertaining thread. its nice to know that im not the only one out there with this rare disease. :cheers:

don't kid yourself. It's an addiction. Some use food. Some use drugs. We get high off the buy!

[greezypete]

Yeah , holy cow , what is it with mags. You trade out a body and frame thinking you will just sell those replaced , and then you get to thinking ......................hmm all i need is a rail and valve and I will have a whole new gun.

Onward to the B/S/T

[Smoothice]

Hmmm.

I think I just came up with a new club.

Marker whores - "we get high off the buy"

[fishmishin]

Hmmm.

I think I just came up with a new club.

Marker whores - "we get high off the buy"

I like it, sign me up !!
That would also be a good title for your explanation of Magitis.

[PaintballEngineer]

This requires a logo/patch! :cheers:

[zondo]

Hmmm.

I think I just came up with a new club.

Marker whores - "we get high off the buy"

No Sigs on AO... :(

I think there was a thread not too long ago that was a poll about how many mags could you build from all your parts. Considering you can just swap valves and bodies around, the possibilities are pretty huge.

[leloup]

I think I just got this disease too, but it must be mutating. I bought and sold 4 or 5 classics at a profit over the past six months, to fund a pnuemag project, then am selling that to build an egomag project, and am not even done but planning on selling it for more mag parts to create a different style mag...oh, I got it bad. I couldn't sleep last night because new ideas were running through my dreams waking me up.

[MicroB]

I was in remission the last 5 years and thought I was over the addiction but I find myself cruising the B/S/T thread a lot recently and know its just a matter of time before I restart my paypal account... :)

[robo1]

I think I just got this disease too, but it must be mutating. I bought and sold 4 or 5 classics at a profit over the past six months, to fund a pnuemag project, then am selling that to build an egomag project, and am not even done but planning on selling it for more mag parts to create a different style mag...oh, I got it bad. I couldn't sleep last night because new ideas were running through my dreams waking me up.
Lol yup, hes got it. I cant say anything, I've been checking the b/s/t thread alot myself lately. :cheers:

[Bigwooly1013]

So you sell a few pieces. That feels surprisingly good too. Well now you have some extra cash in your hand. Free money you think. Maybe its time to put some pneumatics in that double trigger frame you just got.

So now you start building a pneumag. But with the added fire power you realize maybe a barrel kit would be nice. You eye a cocker threaded barrel. Time to sell the classic body and get a ule.


This whole explanation is just tooo spot on. It's kind of freaky it's like he's inside my head. Anyways I'm at the step above is there any hope of getting out now?!?!?!

And to make things worse (or better depends on how you look at it) the wife came out and played with us last weekend and now she wants her own setup. I'm already laying out the plans for her mag(and thinking about sneaking in some of my pneumag parts into her build).

Now if only i can hold back the buying finger until tax time.

[Ando]

Hello Kitty ano job? :D

http://www.riflegear.com/blogimages/KittyRifle.jpg

[maniacmechanic]

OK the talking part of this thread has gone on long enough , SHOW us how bad you have Magitis , here is how bad I got it ; thier are a couple " off brands " & there are 4 in the stand
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m156/maniacmechanic59/the%20wall/ShadowsQ004.jpg

[Smoothice]

http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x57/smoothice15/DSC03834.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x57/smoothice15/DSC03839.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x57/smoothice15/DSC03105.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x57/smoothice15/DSC07993.jpg
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x57/smoothice15/blackmagicsniper-1.jpg

and 1 other marker that is not ready to be dubuted yet :ninja:

and parts to build at least 1 more marker.

and it all started from this...
http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x57/smoothice15/automag2.jpg

[xero28]

Hey now Smooth, COCKERitis is a completely different ailment, one that will not be discussed at this time. ;) (I love that X-mag)

[Smoothice]

Hey now Smooth, COCKERitis is a completely different ailment, one that will not be discussed at this time. ;) (I love that X-mag)

All part of the addiction though ;)

Thats what I love about cockers and mags. You can mix and match parts. Use the same main components and be able to go from mechanical to electronic to pump. From basic to dead sexy all with one new piece at a time.

Your wallet hardly even notices when you do it this way...

[xero28]

Your wallet hardly even notices when you do it this way...

Yeah, then you just hope you're wife hardly notices too.

[Smoothice]

Yeah, then you just hope you're wife hardly notices too.

my only response to this is..... :ninja:

[fishmishin]

Umm Hank I don't know if rehab would help you brother !! Oh and i think you are hiding one somewhere aren't you? So do we post pics of just what we have currently or can I post pics of all of them from just this year?

edit: because that would really show how bad I've got it !

[Smoothice]

What I have is a 1/6th of what I've had...

[lil'Greg]

i had a mag as my first marker when i was about 13, i lost it, i got :cry: and :mad: . then oneday in my internet trolling i found this place and now i am :clap: . however my wallet and paypal are very :nono:

[Loguzzzzzz]

Here are mine.

Please note that since this picture was taken I have added about 12 more guns 7 of which are Mags.
I also have enough parts to put about 3 more together. :D

Missing:
Airwalk pneumag, 3 E mags (1 std., 1 x and 1 very special one). Classic RT and 2 pump mags.


<a href="http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w326/jloguzzo/The%20Family/Family03.jpg"><img src="http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w326/jloguzzo/The%20Family/Family03.jpg" width="600" height="450"></img></a>

[A-Tach-One]

Here's where I store some of my markers.
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt277/ATachOne/IMG_2052-1.jpg
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Mainly XMAGS & SFL EMags :headbang: Some real goodies in there
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt277/ATachOne/IMG_2215-1.jpg
The edge of the Mag collection got cut out of the pic. Missing Mags that I can think of are:
2 more Xmags
2 68 Automags
1 ULE Mag
1 Sydarm
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Since Im seeing Non AGD markers in this thread, here's some of my other markers.
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt277/ATachOne/IMG_2260-1.jpg
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I used to hide markers from my Ex cause.......... well she didn't understand. But my current girlfriend has no problem with how many markers I have and has no issue with me buying more. Heck she comes out and plays with me. Life is good, life is real good. :D

I didn't want to eat up space by placing individual marker pics in the thread. If your looking to see those individual ones, they will be found in my gallery thread on PBL.

[zondo]

A-tach,

At least that way more of your markers are used. Do you have a breakup stipulation if she gouges the anno?

You and Loguzzzzzzz should buy Winnibagos and mod them up AGD Cougar style! :headbang:

[Ando]

O'my Christ A-Tach!!!

You sir need counseling, major bad :p

Edit:

And Loguzzz collection, WoW.

Straight Jackets for the both of you.

[fishmishin]

I wondered when you two were going to post up. lol. That my friends is why there just aren't that many really nice mags for sale anymore, these 2 guys bought them all up, lol. One thing for sure, I would be divorced if I even thought about trying to pull something off like that, she's already on me about the 6 mags, and 3 cockers I have now.

[Smoothice]

You and Loguzzzzzzz should buy Winnibagos and mod them up AGD Cougar style! :headbang:

if anything they need a brinks truck.

[A-Tach-One]

A-tach,

At least that way more of your markers are used. Do you have a breakup stipulation if she gouges the anno?
Ha, I've had buddies put more scratches into my gear in one day then she has in 2 years. :)



O'my Christ A-Tach!!!

You sir need counseling, major bad :p

Well to be honest I'm doing much better. I would say I have sold 20 some markers in the last year and a half. I'm working on my problem. :cheers:


I wondered when you two were going to post up. lol :headbang:

[fishmishin]

LOL, A-Tach I just showed my 7 year old son your SFL/X collection. He asked me when I would have a collection like that, :rofl:

He will have hereditary magitis, he gets his first mag for his birthday on the 25th of this month. A splash micromag with a Booya frame, and a t-stock. If I can I will try to get it on video and post it up, because he is going to flip out. He's a little paintball nut, and he loves the mags !!

[A-Tach-One]

LOL, A-Tach I just showed my 7 year old son your SFL/X collection. He asked me when I would have a collection like that, :rofl:

He will have hereditary magitis, he gets his first mag for his birthday on the 25th of this month. A splash micromag with a Booya frame, and a t-stock. If I can I will try to get it on video and post it up, because he is going to flip out. He's a little paintball nut, and he loves the mags !!

Sounds like trouble for sure. He'll be using your credit cards in no time to snag that online deal. :rofl:

[tbaggin]

man o man,

Loguz and atach, you two are serious boner killers. LOL. Us folk with 4-6 mags just lost our manhood. HAHA. JK

Nice collections both of you

[TeamBob]

Atech and Loguz, may i ask what job field i need to be following up on for myself?

[Smoothice]

Atech and Loguz, may i ask what job field i need to be following up on for myself?

atach's a stripper... :p

[RangerX]

Lol, There was no intermediate steps to my magitis. Started out with the longbow from spec ops. around september 07. I thought that was pretty awesome.

bought emag lowers a month later. a w/l body and rail from AGD, then an x-mag a couple months after that. my habit slowed a little over that winter (only bought another set of emag lowers). spring came back around bought a karta body and rail, z-grip, pneu-matics. one of my favorite guns ever.

couple months later I had another karta body and rail, airwalk v2 frame. and more pneumatics. turned that one into a sleeper (sold this one earlier this year).

somewhere in all that I acquired my ule bodied pump mag, a phantom, a DSG, and a punishers custom phantom I havent opened yet cause I havent been home too.

I have a good excuse to being able to afford mine.

I live at home dont pay rent and have a lucrative job as a heavy equipment mechanic. on the down side the down payment for my land/house is coming along a lot slower than i hoped for :rofl:

[PaintballEngineer]

Here's where I store some of my markers.
http://i619.photobucket.com/albums/tt277/ATachOne/IMG_2052-1.jpg

Been meaning to ask... could you tell me/us about those sleves you store your markers in? do you make them? do you have them made? :confused: They look realy nice.


great colletion! :D

[tbaggin]

REDZ makes the gun bags. they are nice.

[Smoothice]

REDZ makes the gun bags. they are nice.

I love them!!

I have all mine in them also.

They have different shapes as well. Some fit emags better. Others fit vert frames better. They even have ones that fits pumps pretty good.

[Papa_Smurf]

Aren't Jeep Wranglers just as bad as Automags?


...story of my life...

more of an XJ man myself, I like my junk to always be broken..

[Spider-TW]

Thanks to A-Tach-One and Loguzzzz for posting up recent photos! It's actually fun to watch them change. I didn't realize Loguzzzz was keeping so many of the mags he built, since he often has had one up for sale.

You guys should take annual (or monthly) pictures and stage them in a slide show, that would be interesting to watch the markers come and go.

[Epic_Scotsman]

My buddy sad it perfectly

Its an obsession coupled with a sickness. :D

[zondo]

At which point does Magitis leave you susceptible to Vikingitis? There have been some beautiful ones turning up in the BST's.

[maniacmechanic]

At which point does Magitis leave you susceptible to Vikingitis? There have been some beautiful ones turning up in the BST's.

When you first pick up an AKA & see silver FSP's on screen :rofl: , really its a Quality thing

[maniacmechanic]

Thanks to A-Tach-One and Loguzzzz for posting up recent photos!

See it's guys like these that help me justify my collection to my wife ; " I don't have near that many honey "

[Bigwooly1013]

And then there were two.....

http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg54/bigwooly_2008/two%20mags/th_CIMG6540.jpg (http://s245.photobucket.com/albums/gg54/bigwooly_2008/two%20mags/?action=view&current=CIMG6540.jpg)

With my wife's mag functional not quite complete. And mine getting closer.

I'm now looking at this pile of spare parts wondering hmmmm what next. I think i need a loaner.