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skyless
11-04-2009, 01:05 AM
I have wanted a springfeed for my ule mag and I'm done waiting. This thread is aimed to see who else is interested and what they would want in a springfeed system. I know I'm not the only one thinking about this, so let's get together and see if a run of these can be made.

New update-
I finally got into a shop to make a prototype of a design. It can out pretty much how I thought it would and feeds quite well. I think I can get it a few mm lower in the next one. I'm going to run with it as is and see how it feeds. This is just a rockncock for now.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w250/skyless_album/photo-15.jpg
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w250/skyless_album/photo-14.jpg

maniacmechanic
11-04-2009, 05:58 AM
A Noxx springfeed & a warp feedneck work well together

skyless
11-04-2009, 07:45 AM
Noxx has made some great stuff, but it's hard to find and he is currently backed up with work. If he would make more this thread would be done. But from his shop thread on mcb it does not look like that is happening, though I did read that some were waiting on anno like 3 months ago.

CatoRockwell
11-04-2009, 11:16 AM
I wonder if you guys could rig up a Longbow magazine with a custom mount for a warp feed, would look pretty cool.

Of course you could all just get qloaders too ;)

Bagheera
11-11-2009, 05:08 AM
Springfeeds with any kind of elbow are always tricky. The most reliable solution I've found come in the form of 90 degree copper elbows from your local hardware store.

skyless
11-11-2009, 07:41 AM
Thinking- use warp feedneck tube, cut down so 1/8" sitcks out of the body, drill 2 small holes on each side so wherever feed block used could be held in by set screws.

Another brainstorm- use a spring that is larger diameter than a paintball so that the paint feeds inside the spring, then use a ball push that has one way fins on it to allow balls to pass through it when pulled back but feeds them when moving towArd the breech. This way you could use a phantom feedcap for quicker reloading.

PaintballEngineer
11-11-2009, 12:16 PM
Thinking- use warp feedneck tube, cut down so 1/8" sitcks out of the body, drill 2 small holes on each side so wherever feed block used could be held in by set screws.

Another brainstorm- use a spring that is larger diameter than a paintball so that the paint feeds inside the spring, then use a ball push that has one way fins on it to allow balls to pass through it when pulled back but feeds them when moving towArd the breech. This way you could use a phantom feedcap for quicker reloading.


Sounds like a nail gun! :ninja: :shooting:

luke
11-11-2009, 02:16 PM
I have wanted a springfeed for my ule mag and I'm done waiting. This thread is aimed to see who else is interested and what they would want in a springfeed system. I know I'm not the only one thinking about this, so let's get together and see if a run of these can be made.

I had a run of custom springs made for my SS feed tubes. I'm finishing up the plungers now; all that is left is the drilling and tapping for the cocking screw. (Screws are on order, should be here in a few days.)

maniacmechanic
11-11-2009, 04:29 PM
I had a run of custom springs made for my SS feed tubes. I'm finishing up the plungers now; all that is left is the drilling and tapping for the cocking screw. (Screws are on order, should be here in a few days.)

So , are you saying you will have some springfeeds for sale soon ??

luke
11-11-2009, 04:45 PM
So , are you saying you will have some springfeeds for sale soon ??

I already sell a RNC mod for stainless bodies. It can be modded a second time to accept a spring feed. I only made the statement saying "springs and plungers were available" because from what I have been told these parts are not readily available.

I have been thinking about this thread some but don’t have any immediate plans of making anything at this time. If I find a simple enough solution that may change. ;)

This marker belongs to splattttttt of AO >>>
http://www.lukescustoms.com/Page27_Misc_Parts_Services/splattttttt%20rnc.jpg
The above marker is not setup with the "spring feed", but it can me modded for one.

http://www.lukescustoms.com/Page27_Misc_Parts_Services/rnc_spring_feed.JPG

((edit)) Here's the kit>

http://www.lukescustoms.com/Page27_Misc_Parts_Services/spring%20and%20plunger.JPG

skyless
11-12-2009, 04:42 PM
Luke- sent you a SW drawing of the feedblock i have been working on.

If i canfigure out how to copy the image and post it here for others to see and evaluate will, Ill see what i can do.

luke
11-12-2009, 05:25 PM
Save it as a JPEG file and put it on Photobucket.com

skyless
11-12-2009, 05:36 PM
Yet that was easy.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w250/skyless_album/feedblackassemblyfeedhole.jpg

luke
11-12-2009, 06:04 PM
Is that to attach via the feed neck on the ULE body? If so, once you set that on the feed neck the balls will be blocked out of the breach by the feed neck itself. With the flat bottom I'm guessing you want it to sit flush to the top of the body. (?)

(I don't see threads anywhere so I can't tell how you intend to attach it to the body)

skyless
11-12-2009, 06:25 PM
I was not sure what the angel threading was so I left it unthreaded, sorry I'm still learning my solidworks. Yes it fits flush on the ule body and threads on using threaded tubing as an adaptor. It could be formed to fit around the body but set screws would have to be used instead of threading Ill take some pics when I get home of a prototype that has the threaded base and threaded adaptor.

WickedKlown2
11-12-2009, 06:33 PM
Luke,,,

I have a questions for you... Is the spacer between the body and feed tube needed or can you connect the 2 together like a Sheridan PGP with the exposed hole in between the 2 ??? I would like to have the springfeed mod done to a right feed body but like a PGP.... Thoughts

http://www.lukescustoms.com/Page27_Misc_Parts_Services/rnc_spring_feed.JPG http://walkerz.org/images/pball/Pix/Sheridan/oldPGP.jpg

Thank You Brother

WK2

luke
11-12-2009, 08:20 PM
I do them that way for a few reasons and the tubes are already made... Any reason you want it done that way?


(Sorry for the thread hijacking, wasn't my original plan) :shooting:

WickedKlown2
11-12-2009, 08:30 PM
Luke as not to thread jack as you have stated I will PM you...

Thanks Brother

WK2

skyless
11-13-2009, 02:46 AM
Thanks for taking that to pm. It is good to see designs you like and other springfeeds. The spring kits look great too. The focus is on ULE body feeds, attachment without modifying the body, and attaching as close as possible seems to be the issue. This is one option:
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w250/skyless_album/photo-11.jpg
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w250/skyless_album/photo-10.jpg
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w250/skyless_album/photo-12.jpg

skyless
11-13-2009, 03:07 AM
The problem with the above feedblock is the ball drop, the balls get held up when spring pushed. That's why the SW pic has a feedplug to guide balls in.

skyless
11-28-2009, 09:21 PM
Updated , pics on first post

maniacmechanic
11-28-2009, 09:48 PM
Let us know how it works , I'm game for some

skyless
11-29-2009, 02:05 AM
After some grinding and sanding it's starting to take shape.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w250/skyless_album/photo-17.jpg

Changes for V2:
feed tube set screws move to the sides
2 more feedneck set screws on the sides
reduce profile to the diameter of feed plug
extend feedblock covering/supporting feed tube

Let me know what your thoughts are.

skyless
11-29-2009, 03:21 PM
I have some different tube coming that will fit better with the drill bit I have to make the feedtube port. Under the vigerous shake test (shaking the marker as fast and hard as possible) with fully loaded tube, the unit lasted about a minute before pulling out of the set screws. When I get another chance I'll make a V2 and it should be rock solid. Anyway here is my test setup to get an idea on the profile.
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w250/skyless_album/photo-18.jpg

maniacmechanic
11-29-2009, 05:09 PM
Sky , what are the setscrews locking into ? a short threaded piece that goes in the body ?
How about a broadside pic ? I'm pretty sure you've sold 1 allready :D

skyless
11-30-2009, 03:44 AM
Sky , what are the setscrews locking into ? a short threaded piece that goes in the body ?

yep, right now it's a small threaded ring as you can see in the above pic w/ black feedblock. I'm going to use a modified straight feedneck (like the ones off a warp body) with either a grove or holes for the setscrews to sink into.

skyless
11-30-2009, 04:16 AM
How about a broadside pic ?
http://i178.photobucket.com/albums/w250/skyless_album/photo-19.jpg