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moed59
11-25-2009, 12:34 AM
i have level 10 one ring one dot on the spacer 2 shims ....3 spacers in the ult ...hp tank
whepull the trigger it shoots then it takes a second to reset any clue? :cry:

Smoothice
11-25-2009, 01:00 AM
Are you sure it is the recharge taking that long and not your bolt taking that long to reset?

Maybe your powertube spacer is too tight or maybe you need some oil.

Ando
11-25-2009, 02:26 AM
Tinker with your field strip screw. Use a allen key to tighten it in small increments till it starts shooting right. I had the same issue on one of my mags a few months ago.

flyingpootang
11-25-2009, 11:04 AM
I think Smooth got it right it sounds like your carrier is to tight. Use the loosest one that doesn't leak. Your field strip screw should be torqued to a 1/4 turn pass tight....

moed59
11-25-2009, 11:26 AM
i have the feild strip screw hand tight then about a .25 tight with a allen .. i tried i larger carrier but then i got leaking (2 rings one dot )

SSP REAPER
11-25-2009, 11:32 AM
have you tried oil?

Smoothice
11-25-2009, 11:33 AM
I've always hand tightened my field strip screw. NEVER used a tool. Seems to have worked on the plethora of mags I have owned.

Smoothice
11-25-2009, 11:40 AM
i tried i larger carrier but then i got leaking (2 rings one dot )

There should be one in between the 2 sizes you have tried. (Just 2 rings and NO dots)

But I wouldn't think that 1 size off would cause THAT much bolt stick...

Try oiling the carrier oring. Put a few drops of oil in the asa also. Make sure your field strip screw is only hand tight. Check the grip frame screw and make sure it is only slightly torqued with an allen key. Just snug it up.

SSP REAPER
11-25-2009, 11:56 AM
There should be one in between the 2 sizes you have tried. (Just 2 rings and NO dots)

But I wouldn't think that 1 size off would cause THAT much bolt stick...

Try oiling the carrier oring. Put a few drops of oil in the asa also. Make sure your field strip screw is only hand tight. Check the grip frame screw and make sure it is only slightly torqued with an allen key. Just snug it up.
Even hand tighten to start with on the rear screw. Try everything listed above and let s know how it works out for you. As smoothice stated, that slight difference in carrier size is not enough to cause bolt stick. Remember, MAGS LOVE OIL! :cheers:

moed59
11-25-2009, 02:04 PM
put lots of oil lol i have the carrier with 2 rings and no dots no leaks but i shoot it clicks then i can shot again i say im getting like 3 shots a a sec. if i stick my finger in the boltand shoot it gets weaker and weaker and by the 5 pull it doesnt even fire at all like it doesnt have enough air dont know if that helps any

SSP REAPER
11-25-2009, 04:26 PM
put lots of oil lol i have the carrier with 2 rings and no dots no leaks but i shoot it clicks then i can shot again i say im getting like 3 shots a a sec. if i stick my finger in the boltand shoot it gets weaker and weaker and by the 5 pull it doesnt even fire at all like it doesnt have enough air dont know if that helps any
What kind of tank are you using? What is the output psi of your reg on said tank?

XM15
11-26-2009, 07:28 PM
I would also check the on/off. Make sure the pin isn't sticking. Check to make sure the o-rings in there aren't kinked or some thing.

moed59
11-26-2009, 08:09 PM
i will check it kinda sucks im sad lol the tank is hp i used 2 diff ones

athomas
11-27-2009, 08:58 PM
Add a couple of ULT shims.

Also, try taking your regulator piston assembly out and clean it. Grit in the back of the mag could adversely affect the ability of the regulator to do its job.

moed59
12-01-2009, 04:10 AM
lots of oil and i added some shims and i got it shooting but its starts to cuff at about the 8th shot ... thats the level ten right i have alight spring in and one ring on the spacer ..what should i try

Ando
12-01-2009, 10:48 AM
What type of loader are you using? Try dry firing it and see if it's chuffing at the 8th ball. My guess would be your hopper.

moed59
12-01-2009, 11:35 AM
that is dry firing it does that ..............

El Camino
12-01-2009, 12:43 PM
Add a couple of ULT shims.

Also, try taking your regulator piston assembly out and clean it. Grit in the back of the mag could adversely affect the ability of the regulator to do its job.
Could the regulator piston be bad??

Ando
12-01-2009, 03:00 PM
Is it possible your short stroking it? If 1-7 is going fine I don't see why 8 is cuffing.

secretweaponevan
12-01-2009, 10:39 PM
Either your lvl 10 is sticking (too tight a carrier), your tank isn't outputting 850+ psi (myth regs are too low), your field strips screws are too tight, or you have a restriction in your gas path (don't use a remote).

That is 99% of the causes of what you are experiencing.

Can you post a pic of your setup?

athomas
12-02-2009, 07:52 PM
Could the regulator piston be bad??No. The regulator piston is just a pressure release mechanism in itself. Otherwise, it is just a piston that moves back and forth by air pressure and spring tension. If there is grit in the back of the valve, it won't respond to changes in pressure because the friction caused by the dirt is greater than the difference between the spring tension and the internal pressure. If that happens, the regulator may not open far enough to allow proper air flow to recharge the valve in a timely manner.

moed59
12-05-2009, 12:12 AM
got it ripping lots of oil and the ult needed some shims

maniacmechanic
12-05-2009, 07:24 AM
Yee Haw :shooting: :shooting:

Ruler_Mark
12-05-2009, 07:35 AM
http://store.airgundesignsusa.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.prodInfo&productID=115&categoryID=23

Is prolly wearing out.

maniacmechanic
12-05-2009, 08:18 AM
http://store.airgundesignsusa.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.prodInfo&productID=115&categoryID=23

Is prolly wearing out.

how come your not at Waynes ??