PDA

View Full Version : Eblade pnue-mag



grizzy
11-27-2010, 07:36 PM
While I'm waiting for one of those little tiny solenoids, I decided to start working on getting my eblade frame ready (Mostly just to see how easy it would be to mod it so the ram would fit)

Cut out most of the top inside the frame, left the ledge for the pancake solenoid for the ram to sit on. Drilled a 4-40 hole into the back of the ram in the thick part where the air fitting goes (stayed out of the air passage) and cut a slot for the screw so that i could adjust the ram's placement. Routed the air line under the trigger's fang and it fits great.

Since I don't have a solenoid yet, there was no point in making it electro yet, so I decided to go regular pnue-mag temporarily. Cut up a blank circuit board to the rough shape of an eblade board and got the MSV-2 mounted.

I'm going to order a new worrblade from PaintballGateway.com and do this mod again (Want a red frame, and am going to do it much neater now that I know what needs to be done) and install my electronic setup when all the parts arrive.

Here's a few pics, let me know what you think!

http://moebay.com/dan/mag/mag1.jpg
http://moebay.com/dan/mag/mag2.jpg
http://moebay.com/dan/mag/mag3.jpg
http://moebay.com/dan/mag/mag4.jpg
http://moebay.com/dan/mag/mag5.jpg

koleah
11-27-2010, 07:54 PM
For 7 posts, you're doing really good.

grizzy
11-27-2010, 08:11 PM
For 7 posts, you're doing really good.

I lurk a lot ;)

sjrtk
11-27-2010, 08:12 PM
I agree. But otherwise keep up the good work nice for another idea for using different hardware to run a mag. No other marker can do it.

grizzy
11-27-2010, 09:15 PM
Thanks guys. when I get my new frame in its going to get sent out to be milled and will look much better inside. this was just a proof of concept I threw together in my garage in an hour or so. I've got a matching milled intelliframe with another pnuemag setup inside. so I can go regular mech, pnuemag or e-pnuemag. I can't wait until its finished, but its going to be a few weeks until the parts come in.

Ando
11-27-2010, 10:36 PM
That's a straight up badass use of a PCB. Great job.

Newt
11-28-2010, 12:18 AM
From what I've seen of the best pneumags posted, they usually have the MSV rod interacting with the trigger as close as possible to the top. Looks like you've got a fair bit of room to move it closer.

Other than that, sweet proof of concept! Looks like you've got toms of space to fool around in there. Love the breadboard concept too.

Brak54
11-28-2010, 12:37 PM
how the h*ll do you guys do this?!?!? anyways looking good!

sjrtk
11-28-2010, 05:18 PM
how the h*ll do you guys do this?!?!? anyways looking good!

OCD.

reckid1986
11-28-2010, 09:02 PM
looks like someone else just caught "magitis"

grizzy
12-06-2010, 07:14 PM
New frame came in, along with the Ego t-board (Just to fiddle with, if this gun works as nice as I'm hoping, I'll get a new board later on). Just have to wait a month or so for the solenoid to come in :(

I'll post some picture soon with the new frame after its been modified to fit the mag parts

grizzy
12-07-2010, 06:45 PM
Got a lot more work done today... Got the new frame ready for the ram install, and came up with a presidential solution as to how to mount the ram. Here is a pic of how much room there is inside the frame after cutting the top out:
http://moebay.com/dan/mag/mag6.jpg

Before, the ram was just held onto the "shelf" with a single screw in the back. It liked to twist and move, so i decided it needed a cradle. I was looking through my box of cocker parts looking for something thick enough to cut down to hold the ram, and it turns out the ram fits inside a 2k+ autococker front block's main banjo bolt hole PERFECTLY!

So I started cutting up the front block and came up with this:
http://moebay.com/dan/mag/mag7.jpg
http://moebay.com/dan/mag/mag8.jpg

I'm done for tonight, but tom. I will figure out how I will bolt the cradle/ram to the "shelf" inside the frame. But for now, I propped the gun up and put everything in place to give you a visual:
http://moebay.com/dan/mag/mag9.jpg

Xernex
12-07-2010, 07:24 PM
Great looking stuff. Those frames are perfect with so much room in them... looks like I've got something to add to my buy list.

Edit:

Didn't realize how cheap those frames were... got two on the way... fun things in the near future.

grizzy
12-08-2010, 08:18 PM
Great looking stuff. Those frames are perfect with so much room in them... looks like I've got something to add to my buy list.

Edit:

Didn't realize how cheap those frames were... got two on the way... fun things in the near future.

Keep in mind these frames don't come with anything... no trigger return magnet, no little screws or pins, nothing. But they do have TONS of room inside. You'll have to use an ego board though, the top part of eblade boards (and my ego t-board) gets in the way of the sear and ram

Xernex
12-08-2010, 08:31 PM
Keep in mind these frames don't come with anything... no trigger return magnet, no little screws or pins, nothing. But they do have TONS of room inside. You'll have to use an ego board though, the top part of eblade boards (and my ego t-board) gets in the way of the sear and ram


I was thinking of just a simple pneu setup on the first one I ordered... gonna try something different with the second, just haven't figured that out yet... I've got an old eblade parts kit so I've got many of the little bits and pieces I need.

grizzy
12-11-2010, 06:57 PM
Got the ram installed today, just waiting on the solenoid! Still need to route the air line from the LPR into the frame, but that's as simple as cutting a notch into the inside of the grips. Finally got my actual camera to take some higher quality pictures also. Let me know what you think!

http://moebay.com/dan/mag/mag10.jpg
http://moebay.com/dan/mag/mag11.jpg
http://moebay.com/dan/mag/mag12.jpg

Also, the frame matches the body a LOT better than it looks in the picture. The flash makes it look almost pink, it's really pretty close.

grizzy
12-27-2010, 12:57 PM
Thanks man! I've got a stock '06 ego board on the way, and the solenoid should be here in a week or two. I'll be sure to post some videos of it shooting when it's all put together

redlaser666
01-16-2011, 02:28 PM
Thanks for the Inspiration. I did this to my micro mag and it turned out awesome. I will keep mine manual though. THANKS

Pudgey51
07-15-2011, 02:14 PM
any updates to this? would love to see this thing ripping. thought about doing this not too long ago but didnt think the frame would work fit everything. good job man!

GEE TEE
07-15-2011, 05:24 PM
Neat job

I've got a collection of old Mag/cocker/blade parts here.. could be the start of a project

pbstar843
07-17-2011, 12:15 AM
thank you just relized i have all the parts laying around. im building one now. very nice work.

DarkApollo
07-20-2011, 09:28 AM
Subscribed.
FANTASTIC WORK. I think I need to hack up one of my spare e-blade frames to do this!

grizzy
07-26-2011, 12:02 PM
Unfortunately, I've not been playing a lot this year and paintball has taken the back burner to work and motorcycles. However, since there's still a bunch of you wanting updates, I took a few new pictures of the completed frame guts. I have no air so I can't take any videos of it shooting, but it needs to be tuned up I think. This is my first mag, and I don't know how to get the most performance out of it. It acts up a little bit when i start ripping on it, and at this point I don't have a whole lot of time to troubleshoot. I'm pretty much broke, but if anyone reputable would be willing to check the gun out for me and tune it up, I'd definitely appreciate it.

http://moebay.com/dan/mag/mag13.jpg
This picture shows how everything fits inside the frame. Some components on the board make the solenoid stick out of the side of the frame just a hair, so you can see I had to trim the rubber from the inside of the grips so everything would fit.

Note how the air line comes up from inside the frame next to the battery, and how the air line to the ram snakes up around the microswitch for the trigger. Everything fits in the frame almost perfectly, but it's a pain in the ass to service it if I need to take it apart :p

http://moebay.com/dan/mag/mag14.jpg
Here's my solution on how to run the air line. I lined up the hole I drilled in the bottom of the frame with the rear-most ASA screw hole. Drilled in at an angle and met up with the ASA screw hole so I didn't have to drill into the frame multiple times. Comes out right next to the battery inside the frame.


http://moebay.com/dan/mag/mag15.jpg
This gives you a better look at how the ram is mounted. I cut two notches into the shelf the ram sits on and it's using two small screws (only one screw at the moment) to bolt the ram down.


Thanks for the interest everyone, hopefully I can find some more time and money to really finish this gun up and get you all some shooting videos.

hill160881
07-26-2011, 01:21 PM
Nice and clean. looks very nice.

grizzy
07-26-2011, 02:42 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkD9DHiyAzc&feature=youtube_gdata_player

found a short video on my phone of it dry firing before I got it all cleaned up. disregard the messy dark room, but at least you can see it works :shooting: