CMI Thunder pig barrel 9"...

[2BAD4U]

dos any1 know what the bore size is on the CMI Tru-Flight Thunder Pig Barrel 9" ?<a href="http://s952.photobucket.com/albums/ae2/twobad4u1973/?action=view&amp;current=CMITru-FlightThunderPigBarrel9inch-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/ae2/twobad4u1973/CMITru-FlightThunderPigBarrel9inch-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>

[bound for glory]

i don't have the specs, but i used that very same barrel on my emag FOR YEARS and it was sweet! i'm not a big beleiver in the bore size myth...paintballs, by their very nature, will never be uniform enough(when the average case is in consideration) for all this bore sizing stuff.

[Drachen]

That's why you underbore and call it a day.

[bound for glory]

yeah, thats it. words from a real expert... :rolleyes:

[cockerpunk]

arn't these streight rifled?

steer clear of anything besides smooth tight bores on automags, your effienecy will go to **** otherwise.

[Drachen]

yeah, thats it. words from a real expert... :rolleyes:

Shooting something open bolt isn't a big deal with big bores. But for someone that shoots something that isn't open bolt, having a small bore does make a difference. Trying to be a smart *** and you sound stupid.

[Frizzle Fry]

Shooting something open bolt isn't a big deal with big bores. But for someone that shoots something that isn't open bolt, having a small bore does make a difference. Trying to be a smart *** and you sound stupid.

He's not being a smartass towards you. There aren't any mainstream production closedbolt markers currently other than pumps... Even dating back a few years other than 'cockers and excals there wasn't much out there. Nobody denies the exceptional advantage of a small bore with a closed bolt. I think he was pointing that comment more at some "experts" who leave out a few key factors when reaching their "scientific" conclusions about overboring and underboring.

[Drachen]

Oh...well...in that case I take it back then. I just figured you were being a smart ***.

[bound for glory]

nope. if you would have took a moment and thought about my reply,instead of trying to flame me for being a smart a**, you would have seen the point i was trying to get across. but ya did'nt...
no worries. i've only been playing the game since 1984, and only had about, oh, lets see...100 barrels. but what do i know? :tard:

[Drachen]

nope. if you would have took a moment and thought about my reply,instead of trying to flame me for being a smart a**, you would have seen the point i was trying to get across. but ya did'nt...
no worries. i've only been playing the game since 1984, and only had about, oh, lets see...100 barrels. but what do i know? :tard:

Doesn't mean you can't be rude. Saying it how you did, made it sound like I was trying to be a "expert". Which I wasn't. But whatever.

[bound for glory]

yeah. whatever...
i also don't beleive a longer barrel means longer range. i like a 9" barrel. and never longer. but then again, i'm probobly one of the last "if i don't think i can hit the target, i won't waste a rope of paint trying" kind of player...gettin old...

[robertsr1811]

I always get the giggles when I see the 14 and 16 inch barrels on the field, especially in woodsball. I've never really shot anything longer than a 12 myself. Most of my guns run 10 inch barrels. But then again I've only been playing for 22 years, so what do I know. :)

[cockerpunk]

nope. if you would have took a moment and thought about my reply,instead of trying to flame me for being a smart a**, you would have seen the point i was trying to get across. but ya did'nt...
no worries. i've only been playing the game since 1984, and only had about, oh, lets see...100 barrels. but what do i know? :tard:

i've tested under controlled conditions over 100 barrels ... what do i know? owned? i think we counted once what we currently had, it was damn near 250 barrels. in my 10 years of playing, gotta be over 400 barrels total.

on an automag, its always good to underbore. i can pull an extra pod out of a 68/45 no problem which gets my mags up to somewhat decent efficency, with a nice .003 underbore. the consistency gain is nice, but the efficenecy is killer on a gun like an automag.

rifling of any type not only does not work for accuracy, but it also allows even more air then your typicaly overbore to blow by, further hurting efficenecy. steer clear.

[wimag]

have not seen any of your so called testing in any scientific journal. Thus your back yard, bedroom videos mean squat.

[Drachen]

I always get the giggles when I see the 14 and 16 inch barrels on the field, especially in woodsball. I've never really shot anything longer than a 12 myself. Most of my guns run 10 inch barrels. But then again I've only been playing for 22 years, so what do I know. :)

I prefer shooting 12 inch barrels myself, but most of the nicer barrels that I like don't come in anything smaller than 14 inches. Though I refuse to use anything longer than that.

[Frizzle Fry]

have not seen any of your so called testing in any scientific journal. Thus your back yard, bedroom videos mean squat.

The guy leaves out a lot of fairly important factors. It's interesting, if you play paintball in a vacuum.

[skipdogg]

We havnt had a post like this in a while. Guess were due for one. I'll relax with some popcorn...

Maybe someone will answer 2BAD4U's original question...

[Dend78]

IIRC (which isnt saying much at all) 0.685 but thats been many moon ago

[cockerpunk]

have not seen any of your so called testing in any scientific journal. Thus your back yard, bedroom videos mean squat.

well there is no scientific journal for paintball testing. kinda hard to get in that then eh?

actually, thats half the point of PunkWorks in the first place, to build a community for paintball science, and more or less, its been fairly sucessful. we have yoda, ydna, jack wood, jack rice, spitlebug, lurker, bvdave, buex from techt, and many other poeple from the industry who post there. there are quite a few products out from companies which reflect and cite punkworks tests, and few comming through the pipeline as well.

you can check out our tests at www.punkworkspaintball.com, and each test has a link to a discussion thread on our forums, so feel free to comment, protest, or lend your support. be more then happy to see other poeple doing tests too and if you want tips on test design, statisitical analysis or anything else, we are more then happy to help. or you can post your own tests, data or critical analysis if you want to.

[2BAD4U]

I always get the giggles when I see the 14 and 16 inch barrels on the field, especially in woodsball. I've never really shot anything longer than a 12 myself. Most of my guns run 10 inch barrels. But then again I've only been playing for 22 years, so what do I know. :)
the automag works best with barrels between 8" & 10" i think, right?

[2BAD4U]

the reason i ask about the bore size is beacause i've heard that its best 2 use bigger bore sized barrels when playing in miami, due 2 the hot hot weather...

[Frizzle Fry]

the reason i ask about the bore size is beacause i've heard that its best 2 use bigger bore sized barrels when playing in miami, due 2 the hot hot weather...

Yep. Overboring is a good plan in warm, humid environments - your efficiency won't be exceptional but you'll have fewer barrel breaks. Unfortunately "comprehensive" barrel tests don't address temperature or humidity, so those "facts" about the best barrel for your situation don't really apply here.

[wimag]

there are quite a few products out from companies which reflect and cite punkworks tests, and few comming through the pipeline as well.
.

cite them.
I have your vids in the past. A step up from Webdog I will admit.

[2BAD4U]

dos any1 know what the bore size is on the CMI Tru-Flight Thunder Pig Barrel 9" ?<a href="http://s952.photobucket.com/albums/ae2/twobad4u1973/?action=view&amp;current=CMITru-FlightThunderPigBarrel9inch-1.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://i952.photobucket.com/albums/ae2/twobad4u1973/CMITru-FlightThunderPigBarrel9inch-1.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a>
ANS thinks its .689 not big enough 4 miami heat... :(

[cockerpunk]

cite them.
I have your vids in the past. A step up from Webdog I will admit.

the S3 barrels from PE were based on our testing showing the impact of longer backs on spool valve type guns. you can talk to jack wood about it, hes a pertty good friend of ours.

the lurker barrel was based on an idea we had a while ago to make a barrel called the punkworks special. we decided that making paintball products was not what PW was about so we abandoned the idea, and lurker decided to make them under his name.

the new upcomming stuff i cannot say. and there is more that we had less (or less direct) impact on, but its out there.

[halB]

the reason i ask about the bore size is beacause i've heard that its best 2 use bigger bore sized barrels when playing in miami, due 2 the hot hot weather...


Used to ref in miami. It all depends on the field. Most fields down there that are open these days are indoors and feature AC pro shops. So there won't be any problems. Keep the paint in the trunk of your car, or under the shade, and it shouldn't swell.

Although, I do always overbore, and never had any issues down there.

Edit: and by overbore I meant .689. Can't believe how large of a bore people are shooting these days (nor how small).

[2BAD4U]

Used to ref in miami. It all depends on the field. Most fields down there that are open these days are indoors and feature AC pro shops. So there won't be any problems. Keep the paint in the trunk of your car, or under the shade, and it shouldn't swell.

Although, I do always overbore, and never had any issues down there.

Edit: and by overbore I meant .689. Can't believe how large of a bore people are shooting these days (nor how small).
i got 2 check out these indoor feilds. a/c sounds good... :)

[2BAD4U]

balls tend 2 swell in the heat, i hate when that happens... :(

[CatoRockwell]

balls tend 2 swell in the heat, i hate when that happens... :(

Thats what she said... :D