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nathanjones008
05-22-2011, 06:04 AM
Good morning to all. I got a brand new x-valve installed by tuna with a ULT. Anyhow i played yesterday and i noticed it is extremely easy to short stroke. In fact i did it several times a game. I almost never had this issue with my classic valve. Is there some tuning i need to do?

I just a side note i am not having any shoot down(when i am not short stroking) issues and i have using a pure engery 68/4500.

thanks :cheers:

Tunaman
05-22-2011, 06:42 AM
you need to pull the trigger all the way back and fully release each pull

nathanjones008
05-22-2011, 11:46 AM
So i guess there is a learning curve with comparison of the x-valve :)

Thanks

redlaser666
05-22-2011, 01:15 PM
You can read this thread and see if it may help you.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99593

nathanjones008
05-23-2011, 07:03 AM
You can read this thread and see if it may help you.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?t=99593

Thanks for the advice! It just odd that last time i had my old mag that i sold w/ x-valve(3 years ago). I do not recall having having a noticeable short stroking issue at all. :confused: But i will keep plugging along.

TwilightG
05-23-2011, 07:10 AM
if you still have the original on/off, you could just swap it out.

another option is to have Luke modify your sear. Basically drills a new hole for the clevis slightly higher than stock location. Ever-so-slightly increases the trigger pull force but also reduces short-stroking (does not eliminate it though)
http://lukescustoms.com/Page27_Misc_Parts_Services/Sear_mod.jpg
Trigger stops help too.

nathanjones008
05-26-2011, 12:46 PM
if you still have the original on/off, you could just swap it out.

another option is to have Luke modify your sear. Basically drills a new hole for the clevis slightly higher than stock location. Ever-so-slightly increases the trigger pull force but also reduces short-stroking (does not eliminate it though)
http://lukescustoms.com/Page27_Misc_Parts_Services/Sear_mod.jpg
Trigger stops help too.

Is this mod you suggested only for the ULT set up or is it also compatiable with the stock on/off valve?

Thanks. :ninja:

redlaser666
05-26-2011, 01:41 PM
Is this mod you suggested only for the ULT set up or is it also compatiable with the stock on/off valve?

Thanks. :ninja:

This is the modification discused in the thread I posted. This is best for ULT since it will shorten the pull but also make it heavier. With a regulat on/off you may not like the added force needed to pull the trigger.

gmiller0
05-30-2011, 04:09 PM
I reinstalled the standard on/off due to short stroking... I just could not get used to it. After i did that I did call Ninja Paintball and sent them my tank and had a 1200 psi regulator put on it:) so now it RT's like a son of a gun... It feels great and can go full auto at 19 bps if need be :headbang:

nathanjones008
05-30-2011, 04:33 PM
I reinstalled the standard on/off due to short stroking... I just could not get used to it. After i did that I did call Ninja Paintball and sent them my tank and had a 1200 psi regulator put on it:) so now it RT's like a son of a gun... It feels great and can go full auto at 19 bps if need be :headbang:

Thanks for the info. Two questions when you got your adjustable reg did you reinstall the ULT or did you return the original on/off? Also how much was the ninja adjustable reg?

THanks :clap: