Hyperframe/ReTro Valve

[rifleman wi]

ive been searching but haven't found a definite answer, will a Hyperframe work with a Retro Valve without ULT, or do you need to run a ULT with it?

[maniacmechanic]

all the Hyper's i've used have either the centerflag on/off or a ULT , I don't think the solenoid has enough force to overcome the RT on/off

[Dover]

i have read an article that recommends a valve with ULT for the best performance because the solenoid in the Hyperframe does not produce enough force.

[rifleman wi]

i have read an article that recommends a valve with ULT for the best performance because the solenoid in the Hyperframe does not produce enough force.
i have read that also, but i read that it can work with a non ULT on/off RT also, well see, maby ill have to have my valve milled for ult..

[rifleman wi]

From Pneumagger in a diffrent thread- guess ill find out when i get home

"An RT on/off or ULT should work fine if you can't find a centerflag on/off.
They have a reduced pin diameter that the noid should be able to pull."

[Dover]

True, it works but they recommend the original Hyperframe on/off assembly or ULT assembly in order to prevent damage to the bolt, there is a tendency for the noid to not be able to push hard enough therefore short-stroking the sear resulting in more wear on the bolt, but then again bolts are cheaper and easy to replace

My Hyperframe setup with Classic valve (has Diamond Labs Hurricane aluminum back) and CenterFlag HyperFrame on/off assembly

http://a5.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/183653_10150144319124739_678039738_7977034_4235185 _n.jpg

My poor man's E-Mag using a Boo-Yaah ELCD Frame and E-mag Valve with ULT

http://a4.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc6/268601_10150311636234739_678039738_9236332_1993591 _n.jpg

[rifleman wi]

thanks for the info and help, i may just have luke mill my valve, or trade it for one that accepts ULT, just to be on the safe side. :shooting: