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This guy weighs 35 grams (1-1/4 ounce).
Uses an RTP sear.
Prototype sear pin design. (No holes in the side)
AM or RTP style bodies.
RTP ASA slot.
Length and thickness based on the AM rail.
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii405/mtumbleson/OPBNRTPPrototype1.jpg
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii405/mtumbleson/OPBNRTPPrototypeBottom.jpg
C_losjoker
04-21-2012, 08:23 PM
Pump milled?
splat15k
04-21-2012, 08:37 PM
I like this...very much! Any chance we can get a top view?
Excellent work, as always! :cheers:
Pump milled?
Nope, no room for the slot, way too narrow. The pump milling on SS bodies can be seen on the outside of the rail.
I like this...very much! Any chance we can get a top view?
Excellent work, as always! :cheers:
Nope, not until we get some testing done. :D
knownothingmags
04-21-2012, 08:59 PM
from billet or an existing rail?
Fatalis
04-21-2012, 09:05 PM
Will be watching this! :cheers:
:) This is not not an AGD rail, can't be with the new RTP sear design. ;)
:clap: Can't wait to lay my sweaty hands all over it.
knownothingmags
04-21-2012, 10:14 PM
:) This is not not an AGD rail, can't be with the new RTP sear design. ;)
oh yeah duh.
maybe i should think before posting:D
So when are these going to be available for your loyal fans?
I'm guessing after I get it and make sure it works. LUKE has designed in a new sear axle and wants to be sure it works prior to making a run of them. This specific one also has been milled shorter than an AM/MM rail on the back end eliminating the Zlock pin. My planned use for this is to run a capped valve and external reg. Not sure if the "production" run will have the longer rear for the Z lock pin or not.
* Fixed
Honestly I really had no intention of releasing this exact rail without the z-lock. Really this was just a custom for OPBN. There were issues with the rails he sent in to machine this design out of so I saw it as an opportunity to test a new sear pin design and material reduction for less weight. He gets what he wanted and I get a chance to test a prototype. I agreed to the rail design because he was removing the factory regulator anyway. If you guys really want a rail similar to this I can do something real close but the marker would have to be disassembled to remove the valve. I can add the “pin lock hole” without removal groove. That just means you have to separate the body from the rail to get the valve out, field stripping takes a few more minutes, probably not a big deal for most of us.
Dont ask for pictures because its just a thought at his point.
BTY my real friends call me Luke. :D
oh yeah duh.
maybe i should think before posting:D
No problem, I do it all the time. :)
I’ll post up a picture of an even lighter and smaller one in a few hours. :D
It would be nice to have an ultralight rail option on the market again. I for one could care less about field stripping my valve as I've never had to do it before and with a macro line I find it incredibly easy to pull the body with an extra screw anyway.
It would be nice to have an ultralight rail option on the market again. I for one could care less about field stripping my valve as I've never had to do it before and with a macro line I find it incredibly easy to pull the body with an extra screw anyway.
http://www.lukescustoms.com/page0011.htm
About the middle of the page. That one is also mine ;)
OK, here is one more. It was the first to come off the mill for OPBN but the FG area didn’t work with the RTP ASA. I tossed it in the recycling box then got to thinking I could just machine the FG mount area off. This weighs exactly 1 ounce! (Just for fun and bragging rights) I do believe it is the lightest and smallest RTP rail ever made.
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii405/mtumbleson/OPBNRailwithEmagrail.jpg
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii405/mtumbleson/OPBNRailNoFG-1.jpg
knownothingmags
04-22-2012, 05:33 PM
thats funny, but cool
i like it.
do you think it would be even lighter made from acrylic?
lol, it's one ounce, how much lighter do you need it? :)
If you really want to know, look up the weight specs on both materials and figure the percentage difference. ;)
do you think it would be even lighter made from acrylic?
It would be in the neighborhood of 12 grams for the rail without a foregrip mount.
correia3
04-22-2012, 08:08 PM
Any plans to sell the rail without the FG mount?
Any plans to sell the rail without the FG mount?
I'll pm you..
kcombs9
04-22-2012, 08:58 PM
put a body and grip on either frame... want to get a feel for how small that really is
put a body and grip on either frame... want to get a feel for how small that really is
The one with with the front mount or the one without? The one with should be about 6 5/16", the one without 5 3/8".
Any plans to sell the rail without the FG mount?
Would make a nice pistol platform.
correia3
04-23-2012, 07:45 AM
Would make a nice pistol platform.
Great minds think alike... :cheers:
Great minds think alike... :cheers:
Not sure how someone would run the air though. No meat left on the rail for mounting anything. It would have to go frame bottom.
cougar20th
04-23-2012, 08:19 AM
Just curious, Over the years I know there have been other super light rails made. Some similar but some of them have a issue that when clamped to a body they flex & screw up alignment of parts. How is this one?
These are designed to the exact wall thickness as every other rail I do. I keep it on the stronger side, way more than others I've seen. ;)
Just curious, Over the years I know there have been other super light rails made. Some similar but some of them have a issue that when clamped to a body they flex & screw up alignment of parts. How is this one?
I had Luke make one from an AM/MM rail already and have not had any issues with it yet:
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn308/oldpbnoob/Paintball017.jpg
Granted, I have only put paint through it in my back yard, it still fires nicely. Thinking about hooking it up to my SHP reg and surprising someone the next time I go out and play...
With that said, I also am not exactly a hardcore bunker diving kind of player. Partially because I am 44yrs old, partially because I don't want to scratch my gear. lol. I don't know that you could hang a car from it or anything, but who really does that?
El Zilcho
04-23-2012, 09:19 AM
What is the stock weight of a AM rail? I can't figure out how impressed to be with the weight savings, ha.
First off, the newest one is made with an RTP sear, and I dont actually have a stock one of those to measure. I can say that a stock AM rail is 4.65 ozs.
What is the stock weight of a AM rail? I can't figure out how impressed to be with the weight savings, ha.
This is a RTP rail, not an Automag rail as OPBN stated, I dont think a lighter one has ever been done.
The stock RTPro rails weighs 7.5 ounces.
knownothingmags
04-23-2012, 10:44 AM
lol, it's one ounce, how much lighter do you need it? :)
If you really want to know, look up the weight specs on both materials and figure the percentage difference. ;)
gotcha will do
:) You missed this>>>
It would be in the neighborhood of 12 grams for the rail without a foregrip mount.
El Zilcho
04-23-2012, 11:12 AM
This is a RTP rail, not an Automag rail as OPBN stated, I dont think a lighter one has ever been done.
The stock RTPro rails weighs 7.5 ounces.
Color me very impressed!
Carnage reigns
04-23-2012, 12:06 PM
Do you or are you gonna make an R/T length version of that rail? I may put down my dreams of finding a thrasher for that.
I do plan on putting out some rails after I get feedback on the sear pin. I plan on moving away from modding AGD rails, so yea it's probable. :cool:
Carnage reigns
04-23-2012, 12:27 PM
I do plan on putting out some rails after I get feedback on the sear pin. I plan on moving away from modding AGD rails, so yea it's probable. :cool:
Well I need to get that zayan request in soon. I know there's more money in making you own rail but probably more liability too. Just something to think about, not killing ur dream.
It will be awhile before I make a total move to my own, plus I wouldn’t delete any programs I currently use. ;)
For those that wanted to see the rail with a complete setup:
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn308/oldpbnoob/featherlite.jpg
captian pinky
04-27-2012, 12:30 PM
can we get a weight with one of these with a carbon fiber parts, xvalve and intelli?
can we get a weight with one of these with a carbon fiber parts, xvalve and intelli?
Light.
On a serious note, if I get a chance at some point to pull apart 3-4 markers to get some sort of weight I will. The RED CF marker up above IIRC weighed 1.544lbs. Even with a Intelli, I would say it would still be under 2lbs.
Did I give you enough room on the fg slot to line up the front of the rail and the asa?
Did I give you enough room on the fg slot to line up the front of the rail and the asa?The hump on the tip of the rail obviously sticks out a bit. The ASA lines up really well with the back of the rounded part of the front. The front not as much, but looks fine to me. I can get some pics up if you need.
Carnage reigns
04-27-2012, 01:45 PM
That rail, RT length, with a slant in the back could be dangerous!!! You know, maybe done out of a e-mag rail.
That rail, RT length, with a slant in the back could be dangerous!!! You know, maybe done out of a e-mag rail.
Can’t be on an Emag rail because of the sear pin, although I could make them with the changes you mention.
Carnage reigns
04-29-2012, 08:55 AM
For those that wanted to see the rail with a complete setup:
http://i307.photobucket.com/albums/nn308/oldpbnoob/featherlite.jpg
Where do you run your reg on that mag?
RT Lover
04-30-2012, 12:30 PM
looks cool!
Where do you run your reg on that mag?
This was for mocking up purposes. I have an inexpensive one on the way to see if it will work for my purposes, if not I will probably go with an AKA 2 liter+.
Carnage reigns
08-30-2012, 03:42 PM
I hate to raise the dead but whatever happened to this project?
Waiting on BigE to fully test the new sear pin design, I don’t currently have air to do it myself. :)
I need a Shoebox, but with the market as it is with paintball it's hard to justify the purchase...
(Last I heard OPBN had his working)
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