forgrip W/ LPR, hpa

[knownothingmags]

just checking what you guys would prefer.

a gas thru forgrip with an lpr made into the forgrip?


or a nother version of something like the venomous designs EP style grip.
http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/VenomousDesigns/epgripv2.jpg
http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/t0nnn/paintball%2520shieet/Pictures332.jpg
http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/t0nnn/paintball%2520shieet/Pictures335.jpg
http://i552.photobucket.com/albums/jj355/SOUP-13/pneu-mag.jpg
http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/VenomousDesigns/007.jpg

lmk what you would like to see with these items.
- mini boards
-lprs,
-pneumatics


the reason for this is to get away from the clacker"cocker) look of the lpr sitting out front.
and
to get to a new point of being able to offer a new product to the community.

FEEDBACK, thankyou,
KNM.

[river031403]

http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll108/VenomousDesigns/epgripv2.jpg

[bumbabeef]

just checking what you guys would prefer.

a gas thru forgrip with an lpr made into the forgrip?


or a nother version of something like the venomous designs EP style grip.
http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/VenomousDesigns/epgripv2.jpg
http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/t0nnn/paintball%2520shieet/Pictures332.jpg
http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/t0nnn/paintball%2520shieet/Pictures335.jpg
http://i552.photobucket.com/albums/jj355/SOUP-13/pneu-mag.jpg
http://media.photobucket.com/image/recent/VenomousDesigns/007.jpg

lmk what you would like to see with these items.
- mini boards
-lprs,
-pneumatics


the reason for this is to get away from the clacker"cocker) look of the lpr sitting out front.
and
to get to a new point of being able to offer a new product to the community.

FEEDBACK, thankyou,
KNM.
ep style grip

[river031403]

I would like one in gloss black :eek:

[luke]

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/t0nnn/paintball%20shieet/Pictures335.jpg

I thought this was supposed to be kept secrete?

[knownothingmags]

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t272/t0nnn/paintball%20shieet/Pictures335.jpg

I thought this was supposed to be kept secrete?
its on google.
i will take it down if you guys need me too. ;)

[river031403]

I wish someone could build me one :(

[hill160881]

Oops. It was designed for an LPR with a max operating pressure of around 400 psi. :tard: This LPR is not rated for the 800-1100 psi input pressure used on mags and is considered temperamental at best at the higher pressures.

Also I dont need something that BIG

[knownothingmags]

I wish someone could build me one :(
im working on the 3D drawing, as we speak.
getting the interior details figured out.
and seeing if i can make it to use a Micro Rock from PPS, for those who need that little extra.

[knownothingmags]

Oops. It was designed for an LPR with a max operating pressure of around 400 psi. :tard: This LPR is not rated for the 800-1100 psi input pressure used on mags and is considered temperamental at best at the higher pressures.

Also I dont need something that BIG
gotcha. kinda

[knownothingmags]

ill try and keep it with the demensions of the Emag battery pack.
how does that sound?

but i will not tailor the design around one person.:D

[hill160881]

Not to be a bitter betty but this design has been done, and it was not the biggest seller.

[knownothingmags]

hmmmm.

maybe thats why im designing a new one.:rofl:

ill be gettting better final demsions soon, and ill run a prototype, see if it is worth a damn.

ill probably be going with the built in lpr.

[hill160881]

something like this with the internals from a microrock would be really small. I think 1.25 inch wide by 1 inch thick and* as short as a bike grip, or close to it, allowing for any number of exterior designs similar to what people are used to.


http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b9/renie666/25.jpg





Just my thoughts.
:cheers:

[knownothingmags]

yes sir.

i have been waiting to see what you guys were doing with this.

if you are still going to make this.
ill just focus on the outer design of the forgrip.

im not going to get caught up in he said, he said, i stole this design he didnt ask me for that design.

just putting it out there.

:D im really slow at getting things to production. so we will see, how that goes after i get my design done.

so yeah input on how to improve would be great.

thanks,
KNM.

[knownothingmags]

isnt the shrader valve, in the bottom part of the micro rock?, the part that has the 1/8th npt fitting.

that is the only area im having trouble figuring out how to apply it.

i was thinking i would have my buddy make custom ones.
but of course im at a loss once again.

unless there is a different way to get by without the shrader.
probably not?

thankyou,
KNM.

EDIT: i finally found the disasembly of the micro rock. ill see what i can work out with the internals.
when we move in NOV ill throw some real time into getting on of these done.:cheers:

[hill160881]

Its all open source to me. :D Its a public idea thats yet to have refinement and measurements put to it. So who ever moves it to the next stage is welcome to do so and i hope you can. So by all means have at it my friend.

If you need any help let me know and I will se what i can do. My plan is to pay Luke to make one later this year on my new mag build I have been planing. So the more cad work and figuring out the better. Once he has the cad it would be his design.


:cheers:

[knownothingmags]

Its all open source to me. :D Its a public idea thats yet to have refinement and measurements put to it. So who ever moves it to the next stage is welcome to do so and i hope you can. So by all means have at it my friend.

If you need any help let me know and I will se what i can do. My plan is to pay Luke to make one later this year on my new mag build I have been planing. So the more cad work and figuring out the better. Once he has the cad it would be his design.


:cheers:
good to hear.
ill keep it up to date.

one project is coming to a finish soon.

thankyou,
KNM.

[knownothingmags]

so i have noticed a wall that i have hit with completing this prototype.

ill talk to my buddy on tuesday, he is a machinist magician.
and should have some pretty nice ideas on what i can do but still keep the project slim.

then after the internal have been worked to perfection with micro rock internal, or close to.

ill start work on outer asthetics of the grip.

any help, guidence, reworking on this project that you see fit. please add.

thankyou,
KNM.

[C_losjoker]

i hope you get this going and done, it would be very cool. I think one of the things to really keep in mind is cost. if you can keep the milling/design simple it would help keeping cost down. though the venom were awesome looking, i think design/milling kept cost high.

[knownothingmags]

i hope you get this going and done, it would be very cool. I think one of the things to really keep in mind is cost. if you can keep the milling/design simple it would help keeping cost down. though the venom were awesome looking, i think design/milling kept cost high.
yeah it wasnt as much as most think all of his stuff was 2D pathing.

but i digress,
if im lucky my university will let my use there mill and my time. and that could result in some great 3D design.
and
keep the cost low.

the only thing that really will kick the cost up crazy hi is the micro rocks,
who know i might be able to make my own parts.

we will sure see.
thankyou,
KNM.

[Imasho]

Cant wait to see how this goes :headbang:

[renie]

I will email you what files i have as i put this on the back burner for more important stuff :)

[knownothingmags]

I will email you what files i have as i put this on the back burner for more important stuff :)
yeah totally under stand :D

[renie]

this is where i got too

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b9/renie666/lprgrip2.jpg

[BTAutoMag]

well gees thats almost done


I dont know what youre complaining about :rofl:

[renie]

here's a pic of the internals like i said its been on the back burner but it will work,
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b9/renie666/lprhoue.jpg

[knownothingmags]

how do you get the schrader in place?
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/thetoolishere/Automag%20prototypes/steveforgrip.png

[renie]

:confused: schraders are tapered and threaded ;) all drilled from the bottom :D
that model wasn't finsihed just a mock up so you can see the workings :)

heres a pic of a schrader thread and taper

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/6c/Schrader_valve_opening_and_closing_on_a_tire.gif/220px-Schrader_valve_opening_and_closing_on_a_tire.gif

[knownothingmags]

gotcha.
well i am clearly in over my head.

after taking a second look at the shrader, i dont have the ability to make those parts i can make everything else, :(

good luck with your progress.

well at least i figured this out before i started and took peoples money ;)

thankyou,
KNM.

[renie]

KNM im alway here to help :)

if Luke or someone else would like my cad files they are welcome as i really don't have the time for this at the moment, there not complete but the info is there and is easier to see in solidworks as you can section view to see the holes etc.

[D3adpool]

This is something that will be in the market in the foreseable future or just a concept at the moment?

Sorry, if it was mentioned in this thread....

[renie]

something i was working on a while back, Hill brought the topic up but with my other projects it went to the back

[bbotts77]

I dont have the ability to make those parts i can make everything else, :(

thankyou,
KNM.
Why bother making them. The cores are less than a buck a piece.
Valve Cores on Google shopping (https://www.google.com/search?q=schrader+valve+core&num=10&hl=en&tbm=shop&source=lnms&sa=X&ei=oYBXUPK_PIKxrQGExIDQCw&sqi=2&ved=0CAoQ_AUoBQ&biw=1280&bih=963#q=schrader+valve+core&hl=en&sa=X&tbs=p_ord:p&tbm=shop&ei=q4BXULOCJsSkrAHktIGwBQ&ved=0CFIQuw0oAQ&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&fp=cf2352b1b0e75151&biw=1280&bih=963)

Edit: Actually, I don't know what the operating pressure is on those <$1 ones. The $1.80 cores have an operating pressure of 200-4000 psi. I also saw some with a lower range, topping off at 2000psi, which would be good enough even for an SHP reg.

[renie]

I think what KNM meant was he did have the setup, tyou need a special tap fir them and the read hole has to be tappered to seal , I've tested a Schrader with 1200 psi and it worked like a charm I just haven't git roubg to putting it all in one grip

[bbotts77]

I think what KNM meant was he did have the setup, tyou need a special tap fir them and the read hole has to be tappered to seal , I've tested a Schrader with 1200 psi and it worked like a charm I just haven't git roubg to putting it all in one grip
Is that just the standard Schrader valve from a tire that you were testing?

Also, for anyone looking to do this, I did a little research and found that Schraeder valve threading is 0.305"-32TPI. However, there are also Schrader valves already assembled in threaded 1/8NPT sleeves, which would probably also work for this. Of course, those are a little more expensive.

[knownothingmags]

ill see what i can buckle down on.

i kinda got over welmed today in architecture classes.
so ill jugle things till i feel confident i can give this a good run.

little by little i guess?:):D

we will have wait and see what is released.

and renie ill try and email ya when i get a chance and have a nice list of questions.:D

thankyou,
KNM.

[renie]

so ive been looking into the schrader valves and they do a high pressure one rated to 4000psi :)

[renie]

well i had a few mins free this morning and kinda finished it off :)
obvioulsy the grip can be different shapes i just kept it simple :)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b9/renie666/lprgrip.jpg

[need4reebs]

WoW...KNM how many projects are you gonna start man? have you finished any yet? :confused:

[hill160881]

well i had a few mins free this morning and kinda finished it off :)
obvioulsy the grip can be different shapes i just kept it simple :)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b9/renie666/lprgrip.jpg

So the concept is there and it all fits! :dance:

I will offer the funds to have "one" produced if someone wants to make it....... :D For testing purposes.


:cheers:

[hill160881]

Do you have any springs in mind. I would think any spring of the right diameter that has a 120 pound compression weight would work.

Also any dimensions? Or they still adjustable based on piston diameter?

[renie]

Do you have any springs in mind. I would think any spring of the right diameter that has a 120 pound compression weight would work.

Also any dimensions? Or they still adjustable based on piston diameter?

imade the adjuster screw 1/2" to allow for a thicker spring ;)