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knownothingmags
11-30-2012, 03:58 PM
so im trying to think of an idea for lasering on the triple mag.

so far here is what i have come up with :rofl: not that much but something.

Ideas so far:

-laser "Triple Mag" on the valve
-laser a serial on each valve "TM 0001, TM 002, TM 003"(of course each serial on each valve)

Questions:
-? should i get some 45* grip panels from luke and have "Triple Mag" engraved in the panels?
-? what barrels should i go with ?( i would like to keep them all the same length do you guys have any ideas?)?

Details:
-everything will be dust black.
-1 triple mag rail
-3 XMT ULE Aluminum minimag bodies
-inteliframe
-3 RPG clamping feednecks
-3 re-anodized x-valves

knownothingmags
11-30-2012, 04:00 PM
or should i keep it all Dust black with the only lasering being the valves.
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/thetoolishere/tripple%20dual%20mag/th_video-2012-11-08-20-13-08.jpg (http://s741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/thetoolishere/tripple%20dual%20mag/?action=view&current=video-2012-11-08-20-13-08.mp4)

BTAutoMag
11-30-2012, 04:14 PM
I think you should have them do random AO hexes all over it

knownothingmags
11-30-2012, 04:41 PM
I think you should have them do random AO hexes all over it
ooooh i like that.

keep em comin guys. even though that one finishes the lasering for the whole marker :p

need4reebs
11-30-2012, 05:30 PM
did you get it shooting yet??? :D

Bunny
11-30-2012, 05:59 PM
You should post this in the "official photoshop thread"..... Lol. Could you post some close up shots of just the mag without the barrels?

knownothingmags
11-30-2012, 06:24 PM
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/thetoolishere/KNM%20project%20thread/2012-11-30141428.jpg
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/thetoolishere/KNM%20project%20thread/2012-11-30141405.jpg
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/thetoolishere/KNM%20project%20thread/2012-11-30141352.jpg
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/thetoolishere/KNM%20project%20thread/2012-11-30141345.jpg
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/thetoolishere/KNM%20project%20thread/2012-11-30141330.jpg
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/thetoolishere/KNM%20project%20thread/2012-11-30141321.jpg
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/thetoolishere/KNM%20project%20thread/2012-11-30141311.jpg
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/thetoolishere/KNM%20project%20thread/2012-11-30141301.jpg

sQuidvision
11-30-2012, 07:31 PM
good lord that thing is epic! i think you should build a crazy triple rotor to feed it :D

river031403
11-30-2012, 07:47 PM
:eek: fuuuuuuuuuuudga :shooting: <----AO needs to add a "trippple mag" smiley with $$$$igns

Xmagterror
11-30-2012, 07:48 PM
That gun is insane!!! I like the random hex idea

mag79
11-30-2012, 08:04 PM
Who faded the rail?

knownothingmags
11-30-2012, 09:06 PM
Who faded the rail?
not sure what you are asking here.

__________________________________

so looks like it will be to expensive to laser the gun even with the random hexes.

so i need to get the valves that i had reanodized just lasered.

for something like this i would actually like to talk to someone face to face, but aparently can't.

i have no way of designing the vector file. so im at aloss there.i dont really want to spend 300$ to get this thing lasered. and the guy on the f-in phone didnt speak english, and i dont speak spanish. so theres that.

and this is at Laser My Gun.

anyone on here do lasering?

knownothingmags
11-30-2012, 09:08 PM
anyone able to make the design for me?

i know thats asking alot but i am really out of my element when it comes to lasering.

Bunny
11-30-2012, 09:13 PM
Ill whip up a few ideas tomorrow. I think we should keep the design pretty simple. Did u want all the valves to be the same design? Are these all the parts? Any foregrips?

Have you tried kohn sports? If not i would hit up the yellow pages to find someone close by that can laser engrave.

knownothingmags
11-30-2012, 09:29 PM
Ill whip up a few ideas tomorrow. I think we should keep the design pretty simple. Did u want all the valves to be the same design? Are these all the parts? Any foregrips?

Have you tried kohn sports? If not i would hit up the yellow pages to find someone close by that can laser engrave.
i have not tried kohn sports.

ill pm ya what im thinkin.

C_losjoker
11-30-2012, 09:46 PM
Meet moe, larry and curly.

knownothingmags
11-30-2012, 10:18 PM
does anyone have a better name to be lasered on each valve, beside "Triple Mag"

i would like the same word(s) on each valve.

thankyou,
KNM.

knownothingmags
11-30-2012, 10:22 PM
Ill whip up a few ideas tomorrow. I think we should keep the design pretty simple. Did u want all the valves to be the same design? Are these all the parts? Any foregrips?

Have you tried kohn sports? If not i would hit up the yellow pages to find someone close by that can laser engrave.
working on the forgrip idea.
woud be nice to make a stock to hide the LPR in.

but i dont think it is bulky enough for a stock,
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/thetoolishere/2012-11-30192537.jpg
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/thetoolishere/2012-11-30192622.jpg

thats what it would look like if there was a horizontal forgrip or or vert forgrip.

river031403
11-30-2012, 10:22 PM
"Perfect Storm"
"Mo money mo money"

need4reebs
11-30-2012, 11:08 PM
maybe a LPR Manifold and get a custom housing made? did you get it shooting yet??? :shooting:

knownothingmags
11-30-2012, 11:13 PM
maybe a LPR Manifold and get a custom housing made? did you get it shooting yet??? :shooting:
no shooting yet i need to mill and drill the lower block first.

im kinda gungho posting on this, i feel like im giving people a false sense that this is a fast moving project.

the project only move as fast as the money leaving my pocket, and lately my money has been pretty motionless.

so thats where we stand right now.

i need to start taking things a little slower.

i wish i was shooting now.:D

mag79
12-01-2012, 12:18 AM
Who fabbed the rail?

knownothingmags
12-01-2012, 12:32 AM
Who fabbed the rail?
Renie here on AO helped me with the CAD, he actually did about 98 % and my 2% guidence.
but the orientation is 100% my idea. then i handed My CAD off to XMT here on AO a BAM.

we have what i wanted.

Renie actually got me to the point of being able learn what CAD/CAM is all about. i am now going to school for it.

we will se where i am in 5 years. :D:D:D:D

need4reebs
12-01-2012, 12:41 AM
Renie here on AO helped me with the CAD, he actually did about 98 % and my 2% guidence.
but the orientation is 100% my idea. then i handed My CAD off to XMT here on AO a BAM.

we have what i wanted.

Renie actually got me to the point of being able learn what CAD/CAM is all about. i am now going to school for it.

we will se where i am in 5 years. :D:D:D:D


hopefully by then it will be shooting....haha :rofl:

knownothingmags
12-01-2012, 12:49 AM
hopefully by then it will be shooting....haha :rofl:
lol :rofl:

TOTShadowCompany
12-01-2012, 08:04 AM
Because of the sheer excitement that this project is bringing to the AO community and myself, I would like to donate my Vector files I have from the T-Shirts I did. If you decide to laser, at least you will have a clean file to work from. PM me your email. By the way, nice shirt in the pic...lol. :cheers:

Also my graphic artist, Andrew Sloan help design this logo. Let me know and I can give you his number.

To help with weight, what about using Deadlywind barrels and foregrip?

luke
12-01-2012, 09:42 AM
i have no way of designing the vector file. so im at aloss there.

Dont you have auto cad or something?

Bunny
12-01-2012, 10:51 AM
KNM:

First thing I want to do is try and find the font that AGD used. Unfortunately it is pretty hard. I've found one that matches the 3 pretty good. I would rather use a current font, than to recreate the text by hand.... It would take forever...

I did not apply a curve to the font so it will look a little different from the picture but I wanted to show you the font itself.

Once we are ok with the serial and warning i'll move to the fun part of logo design and color matching.

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6823946/Knownothingmag/Valvefont.jpg

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6823946/Knownothingmag/ValveWarning.jpg

Bunny
12-01-2012, 01:56 PM
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6823946/Knownothingmag/splintercell.png

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6823946/Knownothingmag/grunge.png

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6823946/Knownothingmag/triple3.png

luke
12-01-2012, 03:12 PM
Sweet!


https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6823946/Knownothingmag/triple3.png

With the correct engraving tool this can be done on a cnc mill.

OPBN
12-01-2012, 03:54 PM
How about "TRIMAG"?

sQuidvision
12-01-2012, 04:41 PM
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6823946/Knownothingmag/splintercell.png

Nice work Bunny! This one is my favorite!

knownothingmags
12-01-2012, 04:42 PM
this is great guys, thankyou so much for the help.
**Bunny pm me when you get a chance.
**Luke, pm me if you have more details and info about the CNC engraving this.
**Tot, thankyou so much for the donation.
__________________________________________________ ___________________________

im kinda flooded with info here, what should i do next with this. like i said im out of my element here. i would like to move one step at a time.

thankyou,
KNM.

knownothingmags
12-01-2012, 04:45 PM
i like the valve design luke quoted, if anyone has a better design that they can come up with, post it up.

im no good with photo shop yet, i just know basics.

knownothingmags
12-01-2012, 04:49 PM
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6823946/Knownothingmag/splintercell.png

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6823946/Knownothingmag/grunge.png

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6823946/Knownothingmag/triple3.png
amazing work on these.

this is awsome i thought i would throw that out there.

sQuidvision
12-01-2012, 05:33 PM
i like the valve design luke quoted, if anyone has a better design that they can come up with, post it up.

im no good with photo shop yet, i just know basics.
I too am worthless with photoshop... the only thing i would add to bunny's design would be to incorporate the "X" in the design somewhere... perhaps like the emax valves to it, "Mag x3" or "Mag x^3" (not sure how/if we can do numbers 'to the power of' on the forum) Just food for thought!

BTAutoMag
12-01-2012, 05:45 PM
I'm just happy you liked my idea :headbang:

knownothingmags
12-01-2012, 05:52 PM
I too am worthless with photoshop... the only thing i would add to bunny's design would be to incorporate the "X" in the design somewhere... perhaps like the emax valves to it, "Mag x3" or "Mag x^3" (not sure how/if we can do numbers 'to the power of' on the forum) Just food for thought!

i like the idea of encorperating the X in there somewhere as well.
so that it has some what of a stock look to it like it came from the factory.

Bunny you think you could throw and X like the X on the xvalves into the designs some how?

Bunny
12-01-2012, 08:30 PM
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6823946/Knownothingmag/TripleXmag.png

BTAutoMag
12-01-2012, 09:24 PM
working on the forgrip idea.
woud be nice to make a stock to hide the LPR in.

but i dont think it is bulky enough for a stock,
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/thetoolishere/2012-11-30192537.jpg
http://i741.photobucket.com/albums/xx60/thetoolishere/2012-11-30192622.jpg

thats what it would look like if there was a horizontal forgrip or or vert forgrip.

what about a top grip so you can hold it like a minigun :rofl:

props on taking the time to put on your AGD shirt :clap:


what about ano-ing the 3 bodies differently and then using 3 different barrels too... one of them shold be an APEX for maximum unexpectiveness :dance:

knownothingmags
12-01-2012, 09:28 PM
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6823946/Knownothingmag/TripleXmag.png
that looks great but the design looks like i just lasered a new logo over an already existing X.

could you size the X down, and have three of them cascading across some how? all three different sizes? or would that be too busy?

knownothingmags
12-01-2012, 09:31 PM
what about a top grip so you can hold it like a minigun :rofl:

props on taking the time to put on your AGD shirt :clap:


what about ano-ing the 3 bodies differently and then using 3 different barrels too... one of them shold be an APEX for maximum unexpectiveness :dance:
lol i have three of those shirts i always wear them.

i like the idea of the different colors
but ill come back to that when im closer to anoing the parts.

can you repost that in my project thread so all i have to do is reference it there?

thanks BT,

Ryan M.

Bunny
12-01-2012, 09:41 PM
Remember that Vin Diesel movie called "Triple X". I don't want to make your mag remind everyone of that horrible movie.... lol

http://www.moviecape.com/images/products/200531710535521818.gif

I'll take a closer look at your requests tomorrow to narrow down the design some more...

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6823946/Knownothingmag/3Mag.png

knownothingmags
12-01-2012, 09:44 PM
Remember that Vin Diesel movie called "Triple X". I don't want to make your mag remind everyone of that horrible movie.... lol

http://www.moviecape.com/images/products/200531710535521818.gif

I'll take a closer look at your requests tomorrow to narrow down the design some more...

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6823946/Knownothingmag/3Mag.png
good point dont need movie references.

thankyou again for alll the help on this.

luke
12-01-2012, 11:05 PM
**Luke, pm me if you have more details and info about the CNC engraving this.
KNM.

I was just looking at tooling for this exact type of engraving last week (logo and printed lettering) I need to do a little more investigating before I can offer any more information. I will probably need a final file before I can give you a final bid though. ;)

knownothingmags
12-01-2012, 11:49 PM
I was just looking at tooling for this exact type of engraving last week (logo and printed lettering) I need to do a little more investigating before I can offer any more information. I will probably need a final file before I can give you a final bid though. ;)
most definently.

i may still go with lasering but its always great to know.
i may have you do the engraving on the 45* panels after i have you do the CFL type milling to them.

or

i might just have you do a milling again to the panels and have the CFL milling as well. like you did for my batery packs.

thankyou,
KNM.

river031403
12-01-2012, 11:54 PM
"Thrice"
Three fold

knownothingmags
12-01-2012, 11:58 PM
how about "TripleMAX"

Tropical Life
12-02-2012, 04:19 AM
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/78/3amigoslk.jpg

:headbang:

C_losjoker
12-02-2012, 01:44 PM
How about hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.

knownothingmags
12-02-2012, 02:32 PM
How about hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil.
still would like to encorperate the X in there some where.
and thats alot of words on each valve.

thankyou,
KNM.

Bunny
12-04-2012, 11:29 AM
KNM: I'll have some more free time tonight to work on your project. The first round of designing was to see what type of typography you like. It sounds like you want to keep the originality of AGD with the design. More rounded text, light vs. dark text, etc.

Question.....

Do you want to keep the design to the back half of the valve or attempt to laser engrave on both parts of the valve? Depending on how it is laser there may be a slight vertical black line where the two halves meet.

Also, do you have any other cool names for the project? Triple X Mag, Triple Mag, X3 (reverse lightening bolt on the 3), Triple Threat, T MAG, etc.

Let me know! :cheers:

knownothingmags
12-04-2012, 01:46 PM
KNM: I'll have some more free time tonight to work on your project. The first round of designing was to see what type of typography you like. It sounds like you want to keep the originality of AGD with the design. More rounded text, light vs. dark text, etc.

Question.....

Do you want to keep the design to the back half of the valve or attempt to laser engrave on both parts of the valve? Depending on how it is laser there may be a slight vertical black line where the two halves meet.

Also, do you have any other cool names for the project? Triple X Mag, Triple Mag, X3 (reverse lightening bolt on the 3), Triple Threat, T MAG, etc.

Let me know! :cheers:
i was thinking TripleMAX, with the x on the end being like the xvalve x. kinda a play off the EMAX valves.

let me know what you think, lasering will be done with the valves screwed together as if you wanted to put them in a gun and go play.

let me know if i did not answer anything right.

thanks,
KNM

need4reebs
12-04-2012, 03:24 PM
did ya get it shooting yet??? :rolleyes:

knownothingmags
12-04-2012, 03:51 PM
did ya get it shooting yet??? :rolleyes:
considering i dont have the valves yet. no. lol :D

workin on it.

Freedy500
12-04-2012, 04:39 PM
I like the AO hex'ed one best :D all of these are beautiful designs and this mag will be remembered for years to come. That is unless someone tops it with a "quadruple mag" or something like that :ninja:

need4reebs
12-04-2012, 05:42 PM
considering i dont have the valves yet. no. lol :D

workin on it.


oh? all the pics have valves? :confused:

knownothingmags
12-04-2012, 09:16 PM
oh? all the pics have valves? :confused:

those are not the valves that will be in this and do not want to tune this marker with valves that will not be in it. :D

Flatliner333
12-04-2012, 10:25 PM
pornoMAG xXx :D

Bunny
12-04-2012, 10:26 PM
Ugh, I got creative "writers block" Nothing I made really panned out tonight.... Back to the drawing board...

I want to design it so its not just a logo slapped on a valve, but to add lines to make it apart of the triple mag.

For whatever reason I was obsessed with trying to make the R.I.P in "triple" something cool. lol.

Luckily we have some extra time for the build!! :D

knownothingmags
12-04-2012, 10:39 PM
no problem, im just greatfull for the help.

thankyou,
Ryan M.

Flatliner333
12-05-2012, 12:34 PM
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo263/patrickmason/Modular%20Grip/3MaX.jpg

RST
12-05-2012, 01:24 PM
http://img41.imageshack.us/img41/78/3amigoslk.jpg

:headbang:


For me, we have a winner! :D

Maghog
12-05-2012, 02:12 PM
Nice work Bunny, really. Those are simple and effective designs.

Spider-TW
12-05-2012, 03:12 PM
Nice work Bunny, really. Those are simple and effective designs.
I know they will look better, but I was still hoping for the three-headed giant from Monty Python's Holy Grail.

BTAutoMag
12-05-2012, 03:34 PM
I know they will look better, but I was still hoping for the three-headed giant from Monty Python's Holy Grail.
Why not the bunny?

knownothingmags
12-05-2012, 07:48 PM
http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo263/patrickmason/Modular%20Grip/3MaX.jpg
oooooh i like that.

Spider-TW
12-05-2012, 11:14 PM
Why not the bunny?

Only because it has two, big, nasty teeth! (not three)

knownothingmags
12-06-2012, 09:40 PM
the valves are back to me finally

so i have come to a conclusion, that i am just going to keep the hole gun dust black, and the valves will be the only thing that will get lasered at this time.

but yeah i have the valves in hand, just need to get a final design decided upon.

thankyou to everyone who has been involved so far.
:cheers:

Justus
12-06-2012, 11:57 PM
Did you decide on who's doing the lasering?

knownothingmags
12-07-2012, 12:10 AM
Did you decide on who's doing the lasering?
the only people i know of at this moment is LMG, laser my gun.

so they are my best option right now.

but if there is a by far better option i am definently open to suggestions.

thankyou,
KNM.

Flatliner333
12-07-2012, 12:42 AM
If you go with LMG get with Dan, he will take good care of you ;) .

knownothingmags
12-07-2012, 01:30 AM
If you go with LMG get with Dan, he will take good care of you ;) .
i will make sure to make a note of that.

ive said it before somewhere and ill say it again, i need all the help i get get, i am outside of my realm on this.

thankyou so much everyone,
KNM.

Bunny
12-07-2012, 01:09 PM
Flatliner333's Design:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6823946/Knownothingmag/3MAX.png

knownothingmags
12-07-2012, 02:01 PM
Flatliner333's Design:
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6823946/Knownothingmag/3MAX.png
i like it.

where should i get it lasered on each valve 9, 10, 10.5, 11 oclock?

Flatliner333
12-07-2012, 02:23 PM
And this...I think I like the bottom one best or bunnies.

http://i382.photobucket.com/albums/oo263/patrickmason/Choppa%20Pics/Copyof3MAX.png

Flatliner333
12-07-2012, 02:38 PM
Remember whatever you go with you have to convert it to Vector form then invert the colors before you submit it. The laser turns the black areas white and leaves the white areas black so it needs to be the opposite of what you want it to end up.

BTAutoMag
12-07-2012, 02:39 PM
what about a 3 fingered claw ripping through the valve with XXX in the rip :headbang:

knownothingmags
12-07-2012, 02:44 PM
Remember whatever you go with you have to convert it to Vector form then invert the colors before you submit it. The laser turns the black areas white and leaves the white areas black so it needs to be the opposite of what you want it to end up.
yeah ive been getting those details handled. bunny has alot of this under control :D
:cheers:

Flatliner333
12-07-2012, 02:51 PM
:cheers:

BTAutoMag
12-07-2012, 02:51 PM
bunny has alot of this under control :D
:cheers:

http://i.ytimg.com/vi/RQSsrTzodq4/0.jpg
We're all gonna die!

Bunny
12-07-2012, 03:26 PM
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6823946/Knownothingmag/Minimag.png

Bunny
12-18-2012, 10:04 PM
KNM: Still working on it!! Hopefully I'll get some time to finish up the design. Since I always like to post a picture with my posts... :cheers:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6823946/Knownothingmag/KNMMAG.png

knownothingmags
12-18-2012, 10:24 PM
KNM: Still working on it!! Hopefully I'll get some time to finish up the design. Since I always like to post a picture with my posts... :cheers:

https://dl.dropbox.com/u/6823946/Knownothingmag/KNMMAG.png
thats awsome.

BTAutoMag
12-18-2012, 10:40 PM
are those oil jugs as hoppers? :rofl:

knownothingmags
01-04-2013, 02:08 AM
since PBpixels is a busy man,
i think we are going with just the blank valves with the warnings and serials.

:confused:
so now just to find someone who wont screw the lasering up.

Bunny
01-04-2013, 08:51 AM
knownothingmags: I can still help you out if need be. These past few weeks have been hectic. Gotta love the holidays :D

I would suggest finding a local laser engraving company and have them laser engrave a test piece. Just to make sure you like the way the fonts come out. I would hate to see you having to re-anodize the valves again.

knownothingmags
01-04-2013, 01:58 PM
knownothingmags: I can still help you out if need be. These past few weeks have been hectic. Gotta love the holidays :D

I would suggest finding a local laser engraving company and have them laser engrave a test piece. Just to make sure you like the way the fonts come out. I would hate to see you having to re-anodize the valves again.

oh yeah test piece is a good idea.
sorry if it sounded like i was taking a shot at ya i wasnt.

i know how very busy it gets. im in no hurry to get this sucker done just thought i would throw an update up.:headbang:

dre1919
01-04-2013, 02:24 PM
I think it should say "Death Machine" on there somewhere. I also think it should be mounted to the child's toy car in the background of the second photo! Yeah, who wants to come out and play now!" :rofl: