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Patron God of Pirates
03-27-2013, 04:14 PM
Dear Sr.,

Please stop designing your products with brightly colored jewels displaying your logo. This is not NASCAR. You are not my sponsor. If you want me to advertise for your product you can pay me to do so or give me free stuff. Until that shining day I will continue to make removing your jewels step 2 after opening the box.

Sincerely,
~Annoyed Consumer

Frizzle Fry
03-27-2013, 04:36 PM
Oh man, I can't agree more.

Tasteful milling is one thing, but even that should be limited to the body of a marker (Shocktechs, late PTPs, etc).

I have so many CP regulators and ASAs; none of them have jewels because they're UGLY.

Freedy500
03-27-2013, 04:40 PM
Unless if it is AGD's. I am happy to have a blazing AGD logo on as many things as I can. Gotta have that AGD pride.

luke
03-27-2013, 04:45 PM
Without little more than moving my head right to left I see:
hp (7x), CASIO, Fowler, vtech, Industrial Press, Network, Acer, cisco, audubon, Mitutoyo, belkin, magic jack, scotch, Palmers Pursuit, Starrett, Phllips, so I really don't get your point. ;)

blackdeath1k
03-27-2013, 04:46 PM
I've never been a big logo fan. I'm picky with riding gear because of it too. Can't think of many logos in all my pb gear.

Patron God of Pirates
03-27-2013, 04:54 PM
Without little more than moving my head right to left I see:
hp (7x), CASIO, Fowler, vtech, Industrial Press, Network, Acer, cisco, audubon, Mitutoyo, belkin, magic jack, scotch, Palmers Pursuit, Starrett, Phllips, so I really don't get your point. ;)

lol. Let me try. RCA, DELL, AT&T, Samsung, Linksys, HP. I get what you're saying and for the record, I see you as one of the good guys. Milled into the product tastefully so that those who like what they see can know what it is.

It annoys me with paintball stuff because we go to so much trouble to get our markers unique and just so.

GoatBoy
03-27-2013, 07:13 PM
I would have thought the opposite. You guys pay so much attention to, and associate so much with, branding and showing people what you spent money on that I figure you'd actually like an overt, visible logo. It's a direct statement of your status. And we all love our status symbols, even if they're gaudy.

That goes double for you guys that run around putting stickers on everything.

And logo'd jerseys.

Patron God of Pirates
03-27-2013, 07:58 PM
You guys

Who guys is "you guys"?

luke
03-27-2013, 08:04 PM
It annoys me with paintball stuff because we go to so much trouble to get our markers unique and just so.
Just "funnin" with you, that stuff irritates me too, but there is no escape it's everywhere. ;)

Cokrkilr
03-27-2013, 10:37 PM
The best is when something gets logos on it that don't deserve it.... like the Chrysler 300 with a fake Bentley grill.

Frizzle Fry
03-27-2013, 10:39 PM
The best is when something gets logos on it that don't deserve it.... like the Chrysler 300 with a fake Bentley grill.

Hey!

The 300C is basically a beefy Mercedes.

Bentley is basically a pretty looking Audi.

I think it fits.

GoatBoy
03-28-2013, 12:17 AM
Who guys is "you guys"?

Majority of paintballers, as stated. Look around on people's gear. Stickers all over the place? Extra brands on their custom jerseys even though they're not sponsored or affiliated with them? Constantly referring to "brand greatness" instead of data? That's who I'm talking about.

Manufacturers do it because people ... kinda want it.

So really, your letter should probably be addressed to your fellow paintballers.

Cokrkilr
03-28-2013, 01:09 AM
Hey!

The 300C is basically a beefy Mercedes.

Bentley is basically a pretty looking Audi.

I think it fits.

I do have to give it to the Baudi though, do any of you watch top gear? And see the Bentley drive UP a ski slope? Pretty impressive. The 300 would be at the bottom stuck with a pretty lame fake grill :)

BiNumber3
03-28-2013, 03:37 AM
It just needs to be done more stylishly than jewels imo, like my monitor has a nice ASUS on the front, but it's not ugly and it's not too large. Or my bikes with black background and silver stenciled lettering that I think adds to the sex appeal:)

Cokrkilr
03-28-2013, 06:18 AM
It just needs to be done more stylishly than jewels imo, like my monitor has a nice ASUS on the front, but it's not ugly and it's not too large. Or my bikes with black background and silver stenciled lettering that I think adds to the sex appeal:)


Did you just use bikes and sex appeal in the same sentence?

OPBN
03-28-2013, 07:05 AM
I'm not a badge kind of guy at all either and the only place I have stickers is on my parts boxes. Everyone does it though, so it's the norm now and despite his abrasiveness, GoatBoy is probably more on base than we want to admit. A lot of people are into badges as it is somewhat of a status symbol. Personally, one of the reasons I like AKA feednecks so much is that they come without logos or lazering. By the same token, they probably sell a fraction of what CCM does. Coincidence?

Patron God of Pirates
03-28-2013, 09:30 AM
Manufacturers do it because people ... kinda want it.
So really, your letter should probably be addressed to your fellow paintballers.

Do they get what they want? Or do they want what they get? More specifically, do they want what everybody else has? We agree on this. I'd just prefer it was different.


Personally, one of the reasons I like AKA feednecks so much is that they come without logos or lazering. By the same token, they probably sell a fraction of what CCM does. Coincidence?

Not at all. Add a Dye logo to anything and you've quadrupled it's price. Paintball is as bad as clothing when it comes to this crap. It's hard to think of an activity where style choices should have less bearing than a bunch of people slinging smelly paint at each other.


The best is when something gets logos on it that don't deserve it.... like the Chrysler 300 with a fake Bentley grill.

I used to own a Ford Escort with a Jaguar Emblem bolted to the hood. LOL I loved my Jagscort.

BTAutoMag
03-28-2013, 09:39 AM
I used to own a Ford Escort with a Jaguar Emblem bolted to the hood. LOL I loved my Jagscort.

I once bought a used VW jetta for a great price but the front VW logo was missing, oddly enough a caddy emblem fit... I then flipped the car for 600$ profit. The guy loved the emblem

Patron God of Pirates
03-28-2013, 10:02 AM
I once bought a used VW jetta for a great price but the front VW logo was missing, oddly enough a caddy emblem fit... I then flipped the car for 600$ profit. The guy loved the emblem

That's hilarious. I still have that Jaguar, maybe I'll clamp it to the end of a barrel, slap it on a classic Mag and try to sell it on E-Bay for $2000.00
Super Rare
1 of 1
Top of the line high end Jag Mag!

Frizzle Fry
03-28-2013, 12:20 PM
I'm holding a silver Shocktech B2K2 with four logos on it, two are 1x2" and 1x1". The Bob Long feedneck is also silver and has three 1x1" BL logos cut into the collar. The black barrel is by Redz and has 1.5" chili peppers milled into it with a 2" redz logo. The black grips are by DYE and have a 2" logo running down the middle.

Even though this thing is covered in gigantic hunks of MFG graffiti, the only thing that bothers me is the tiny .5cm x 1cm CP jewel logo on the regulator which is BRIGHT RED.



I used to own a Ford Escort with a Jaguar Emblem bolted to the hood. LOL I loved my Jagscort.
I'll be looking for that around town.

Patron God of Pirates
03-28-2013, 12:37 PM
I'll be looking for that around town.

LOL. Last seen being driven by my Grandmother in Maine. Sadly, the frame rotted out and the Jagscort is quite dead. Maybe I'll put the emblem on my Sonata. ;)

Frizzle Fry
03-28-2013, 01:06 PM
LOL. Last seen being driven by my Grandmother in Maine. Sadly, the frame rotted out and the Jagscort is quite dead. Maybe I'll put the emblem on my Sonata. ;)

Now that I think about it they haven't made Escorts in a very long time LOL

going_home
03-28-2013, 01:13 PM
Doesnt bother me a bit.

You guys let silly things bother you.

Just get some espresso, you'll be ok.

http://i19.photobucket.com/albums/b195/going_home/Starbucks.jpg

GoatBoy
03-28-2013, 01:19 PM
Do they get what they want? Or do they want what they get? More specifically, do they want what everybody else has? We agree on this. I'd just prefer it was different.

Yes, I wish many things were different. I'm a no-flag kind of guy myself.

I'm sure the line gets blurred, what with manufacturers sometimes being customers themselves, and customers sometimes being manufacturers.

But look at the Tek Mat thread.

"Man, how are we going to fit all this technical data on there AND a giant AGD logo?"

"Uh, drop the logo?"