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Laku
09-01-2013, 01:40 PM
Need4reebs has been asking me for pictures of my mags for some time now. So as I took few pics of my SmartMag with venom deluxe Highline, I also took a pic of my x-valve mag as it is now. I do have few more mags on the works but I'll post a pic of them when they are more presentable. ;)

Here's my SmartMag as it is now, it is also my first mag.

https://live.staticflickr.com/2836/9648395094_276199ea25_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/fGAxHy)

https://live.staticflickr.com/7352/9648396434_756436defa_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/fGAy7E)

And here's my X-valve mag as it is now.

https://live.staticflickr.com/7416/9648397210_70643f09fa_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/fGAym3)


Karta mag. Anodizing by Caustic Customs, Lukes LPR foregrip and Vertframe with OLTR inside.

https://live.staticflickr.com/670/22254772764_e24f04c5f1_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/zUzwAG)

https://live.staticflickr.com/756/22689532310_34ff6fa805_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/AyZMsW)

XtraKargo
09-01-2013, 01:43 PM
Sharp. Very Clean.

need4reebs
09-01-2013, 01:54 PM
Sa WeeT!!! liking tha High Line on tha classic shooter!!!!:headbang:

ScottyBeans
09-05-2013, 06:10 PM
Love the look of the wood grips on the X. Nice mags!

Laku
09-05-2013, 11:57 PM
Love the look of the wood grips on the X. Nice mags! Thanks. I made those grips myself as it's easier than source ones made by smart parts with any of the nicer colors. :)

ScottyBeans
09-08-2013, 05:42 PM
Thanks. I made those grips myself as it's easier than source ones made by smart parts with any of the nicer colors. :)


Well that just makes it all the more impressive. I wouldn't know where to start if I were to try to make wood grips. Maybe a tree? :D

Wolfe Man
11-26-2013, 05:36 PM
That X-Valve is sexy with the wood grips.

Laku
11-27-2013, 12:56 AM
That X-Valve is sexy with the wood grips.

Thanks! That's my main gun at the moment.

astr0xz0mbie
11-27-2013, 03:13 PM
what feedneck is on your xvalve mag ??? that thing is super no profile lol i want one !

Laku
11-28-2013, 12:59 AM
what feedneck is on your xvalve mag ??? that thing is super no profile lol i want one !

It seems to be Empire one, judging from the logo on side. To be honest I'm not sure. Renie would know since he's the one that built it originally.

debruynda
11-30-2013, 01:26 AM
Beautiful mags...are you in Helsinki? A guy I played hockey with in high school is a doctor there and a native, could be visiting again sometime:)

Laku
11-30-2013, 04:14 AM
Beautiful mags...are you in Helsinki? A guy I played hockey with in high school is a doctor there and a native, could be visiting again sometime:)
Thanks! I live relatively close to Helsinki, about half an hour out to the countryside.

blackdeath1k
11-30-2013, 11:52 AM
The wood grips look real nice. Good looking markers you have

Laku
11-30-2013, 12:13 PM
The wood grips look real nice. Good looking markers you have

Thanks! Now I only need to finish the four other mag projects that I have underway. :D

MDPredator
11-30-2013, 10:10 PM
Beautiful work. The grips are outstanding. I had to make my own for my Sterling pump, which can take mag grips. But mine do not look as good. One piece grips?

blackdeath1k
11-30-2013, 11:03 PM
What kind of wood did you use? When I get some bike projects done I may need to consider this for my Y frame.

Laku
12-01-2013, 03:42 AM
Beautiful work. The grips are outstanding. I had to make my own for my Sterling pump, which can take mag grips. But mine do not look as good. One piece grips?

2 piece like the smart parts equivalent.


What kind of wood did you use? When I get some bike projects done I may need to consider this for my Y frame.

Furniture grade birch plywood. Here are pictures of them being made.

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tinted to colour of your choice
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then I just varnished them with urethane varnish with light sanding in between layers, untill I had about 7 layers. Then really fine sanding and polishing with farecla g3 polisher.

Runamok
12-10-2013, 04:19 AM
Very sweet. Nice display of pure talent.

Laku
11-08-2015, 01:46 PM
Here's the Karta mag finished. Anodizing by Caustic Customs, Lukes LPR foregrip, Vertframe with OLTR inside, and Inception Designs Stella barrel.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/670/22254772764_1531f4e38f_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/zUzwAG)

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/756/22689532310_49587afb40_b.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/AyZMsW)

blackdeath1k
11-08-2015, 02:32 PM
A. Somehow I missed you wood grip pix. Sweet. Never would have dreamed they were plywood.

B. I'm in love with the red/black fade on that karta. Seriously! That would be my prize marker for sure.... I'd use it. But it would be sitting on display any time I wasn't on the field.

Laku
11-08-2015, 02:42 PM
B. I'm in love with the red/black fade on that karta. Seriously! That would be my prize marker for sure.... I'd use it. But it would be sitting on display any time I wasn't on the field.

Thanks. It's actually acid wash, just really subtle. And it's totally going to get used. :)

flampaint
11-09-2015, 06:06 AM
Extremely nice - good work!
If that's not a sure-shot MOTM winner I don't know what is

Laku
11-09-2015, 11:35 AM
Extremely nice - good work!
If that's not a sure-shot MOTM winner I don't know what is

Lets find out. :)

Tunaman
11-09-2015, 02:51 PM
Beautiful stuff. I am sure TK is grinning ear to ear!;)

Laku
11-10-2015, 01:30 AM
Beautiful stuff. I am sure TK is grinning ear to ear!;)

Thanks! I'd like to think so. :)

Menace_AO
11-17-2015, 11:56 PM
That Karta is absolutely magnificent.

What kind of air fittings are you using at the valves? Those are interesting.

Laku
11-18-2015, 12:59 AM
That Karta is absolutely magnificent.

What kind of air fittings are you using at the valves? Those are interesting.

Thanks!

I'm mostly using CCM macro fittings(the current model). For the Karta I took off the front piece, attached it to a drill and sanded it until it was tapered enough so that it doesn't rub against the body.

Zeropjc
11-23-2015, 10:34 AM
WOW! That karta mag looks amazing!

BassdudeBTB
03-09-2017, 12:54 PM
Laku, where did you get that awesome looking rigid line and fittings on the first mag?
I tried to find it and Googled all sorts of things but no luck. I believe the markings on it say: "Venom Rigidline DLX - 1051197"

Also where do you get rigid macroline for the CCM fittings?
It looks so sleek and awesome! I would like to replace the Rigid line on my RT Classic with CCM fittings and that Rigid Macroline or the option above, the Venom Rigidline.

Laku
03-09-2017, 01:10 PM
Laku, where did you get that awesome looking rigid line and fittings on the first mag?
I tried to find it and Googled all sorts of things but no luck. I believe the markings on it say: "Venom Rigidline DLX - 1051197"

It's Venom Highline Deluxe edition. I got it when Venom (from Germany) was sponsoring our team back in ~1996. You can occasionally find them used.


Also where do you get rigid macroline for the CCM fittings?
It looks so sleek and awesome! I would like to replace the Rigid line on my RT Classic with CCM fittings and that Rigid Macroline or the option above, the Venom Rigidline.

It's aluminium tubing that's been bent with pipe bender and anodized glossy black. You can source it from hobby stores or wherever you buy aluminium tubing there.
Brand I used is K&S Metals product number #83061, 1/4 x .049 x 12" Alloy 6061 T6. You want 6061 for anodizing. More expensive than from proper metal dealership, but convenient because you can order online from many different hobby stores.

blackdeath1k
03-09-2017, 01:15 PM
Laku, where did you get that awesome looking rigid line and fittings on the first mag?
I tried to find it and Googled all sorts of things but no luck. I believe the markings on it say: "Venom Rigidline DLX - 1051197"

Also where do you get rigid macroline for the CCM fittings?
It looks so sleek and awesome! I would like to replace the Rigid line on my RT Classic with CCM fittings and that Rigid Macroline or the option above, the Venom Rigidline.

Venom toxic toys was a company back in the 90s that jumped on the aftermarket parts wagon for mags and cockers. Good luck finding leftover goods such as that. Laku is a master of finding the rare.

The second set is just rigid AL tubing that was bent and anodized. A member here did a run or 2. I bought tube from him and did my own custom lines for my wife's rt to get rid of the macro line. You could also buy the tube from McMaster Carr and bend it yourself.

BassdudeBTB
03-10-2017, 09:02 AM
Awesome! Thank you so much!
I cant wait to put them on my Mag!

BassdudeBTB
03-16-2017, 08:42 PM
So I bought some 1/4"OD x 0.035"Wall, Smooth Bore Stainless Steel Tubing from McMaster Carr (#89895K724) and it doesn't stay in the CCM fittings!!
It sort of seals in another Macroline fitting I have but I'm guessing maybe that one has a slightly fatter oring. But still even if it seals I can simply pull it right out... Easily!

I thought Stainless tubing would look nice on the side of my RT with CCM's... But obviously this doesn't work...
From your experience will Aluminum tubing seal in CCM Fittings? I've seen several nice Mags with rigid tubing... Did they flare the ends a bit or what's the secret here?!
I found this on Mcmaster for AL Tubing: (#89965K441)

As a side note I measured the tubing's diameter and compared it to the macro line I have and it is EXACTLY the same to the thou...

blackdeath1k
03-16-2017, 08:57 PM
So I bought some 1/4"OD x 0.035"Wall, Smooth Bore Stainless Steel Tubing from McMaster Carr (#89895K724) and it doesn't stay in the CCM fittings!!
It sort of seals in another Macroline fitting I have but I'm guessing maybe that one has a slightly fatter oring. But still even if it seals I can simply pull it right out... Easily!

I thought Stainless tubing would look nice on the side of my RT with CCM's... But obviously this doesn't work...
From your experience will Aluminum tubing seal in CCM Fittings? I've seen several nice Mags with rigid tubing... Did they flare the ends a bit or what's the secret here?!
I found this on Mcmaster for AL Tubing: (#89965K441)

As a side note I measured the tubing's diameter and compared it to the macro line I have and it is EXACTLY the same to the thou...

My experience with rigid tube is that it will not bite and hold in any macro fittings because it is rigid and not soft like macro. BUT it will seal fine if the right OD is used. This means that the tube has to be mounted in a way that the angles of the fittings force the tube to stay in the fittings.

BassdudeBTB
03-16-2017, 09:49 PM
Ok I gotcha, seems kinda dangerous to have 1,000+ PSI in a tube like that but I see other Mags with it so it must work fine...
I made some measurements and I'm thinking of machining a tiny groove for the fitting teeth to engage into at the same place the macroline has the groove pressed into it by the teeth.
What do you think?

Laku
03-17-2017, 12:50 AM
You don't need the groove. In fact that could become failure point so I wouldn't do that.

With correct OD the pipe will be fine.

Btw you can put two o-rings in ccm fitting so that it seals further up if your pipe is right on the edge of being long enough.

And like you said you could also find slightly thicker o-ring and try that if it seems your pipe OD isn't large enough.

BassdudeBTB
03-17-2017, 11:00 PM
Ok thanks for the advice. I will try to tinker with it & get it to work. The double o-ring idea is a good suggestion I may try that if it doesn't seal right away.

going_home
03-18-2017, 09:26 AM
What did they charge you for the anodizing ?

Removing the international shipping....

Laku
03-18-2017, 10:06 AM
What did they charge you for the anodizing ?

Removing the international shipping....

For the Karta? I think it was around 400 but that included few rails and other stuff in addition to that.

ElPanda
03-18-2017, 08:50 PM
that karta is amazing

going_home
03-19-2017, 08:08 PM
For the Karta? I think it was around 400 but that included few rails and other stuff in addition to that.

Looks great.

BassdudeBTB
03-20-2017, 07:55 AM
Thanks Laku & blackdeath1k for your help w/ the hardline mod for my Mag. It came out great!

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Laku
03-20-2017, 09:02 AM
Thanks Laku & blackdeath1k for your help w/ the hardline mod for my Mag. It came out great!


No problem, glad to help. It looks good. :)

Psicko
03-21-2017, 08:39 AM
All three are nice, but that karta is amazing. How did you like the oltr?

Laku
03-21-2017, 10:48 AM
All three are nice, but that karta is amazing. How did you like the oltr?

I like it quite a bit. Easy to use and makes the trigger almost as light as my tournament electro.