ARG!!! ANOTHER Parents & Paintball...

[FooTemps]

I have so many of these friggin threads that I lost count!
Ok, now that I have a paintball gun I'm sorta happy... MY ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT MY PARENTS WON'T LET ME USE IT!!! They refuse to take me to the field and sign the waivers.

Any methods on trasportation besides taking the bus(can't take metro or county bus cuz it still won't reach the fields)?

I'm planning on going broke off a taxi right now. It should worry my parents enough that they'll take me... I mean, would you let your kid pay 200 dollars for a taxi just to get to the paintball field and back?

ALSO: Don't mention paying my parents per ride. I already tried that. Please don't tell me to get rides with friends either, I kinda lose face when I invite a friend to paintballing and ask them for a ride.

[epterry]

you said something about they had to fill out the waver or are you old enough to fill it out yourself?

[FooTemps]

Well, I still need parent/guardian permission. I could use white carbon copy paper and make tons of copies of signed waivers...

I know people are reading this... Don't just read it! RESPOND!

[Kaiser Bob]

As far as the field thing, they really wont know if you came to the field with a forged release form, nor would they really care. As far as the rides... suck it up man, you have no car yet so you are a mooch, cant help it. If you love paintball so much youll swallow your pride and take whatever ride you can get :)

[FooTemps]

damnit... I'm too proud to swallow it down!

lol... I'll try.

[MantisMag]

i think it must be an asian thing. i have problems asking for a ride too. i don't know why. i have no problems accepting rides when they're offered. i just don't like asking for favors. personally if i was you i would let all of my friends who play know about my situation and hint subtly, or not so subtly, that perhaps they should remember to invite me when they go. it means that you go when they want to. but at least you don't have to do something like "hey wanna go paintballing this weekend? cool you're driving!"

[FooTemps]

Well crap... I asked my parents if I could go paintballing this weekend and they said yes... I invited my friend and now they(parents) say no! THIS IS PISSING ME OFF!!!

[InfinatyBPS]

I have an incredibly hard time to get to a feild, my father wants to spend as little time with me as possable, I am in Southern california for a week, and you know there are great feilds over here. He dosen't mind staying at strangers houses all day to fix their computers and somtimes dosent even get payed yet when I wonna go play paintball he said he dosen't want to waste time. Like it would be realy hard to just chill out for a few hours at a feild. And its almost always like this, he has a fit everytime I want to play paintball. Luckily I started my own team and I can hitch a ride with the other captain of the team... But otherwise I would get to play paintball 2 times a year... It realy pisses me off that he dosen't care enough about my happiness to take me somewhere once a freaking month. It just seems wrong, anyone else think this? Sorry I am venting on ur thread Foo but I just think this is totaly wrong. Jeesh I don't know, I was realy pissed at him yesterday, and now im pissed again...:mad:

[FooTemps]

Same story infantry... Same story... I live in WA and there's splat attack here. Damn nice fields and damn nice people there too. My parents don't really care about my happiness right now, all they really care about is my future. I want to play but they just say no or they just ignore me. Then they go and compain about my 3.54 grade average...

[raehl]

www.high-school-paintball.com.

If there's anything you want me to put there that'll help you, LMK.

- Chris

[nastymag]

luckly my dad paintballs , he shots a automag. we about once a month , and me and my freinds go about once a month , so its twice a month. try to get your dad into paintballing. if not then suck up your pride and hitch rides. ive taken rides with people i dont even know ( paintballers though) twice. hahah cant stop the addiction.

[FooTemps]

Sure then... I guess I'll suck up my pride and hitch a ride...

[Cardinal_Biggles]

I live in Tacoma, and have an alright team with a few maggers. Have you ever been to KC Crusaders or Hole In The Wall? I think they're both much better than Splat Attack. The store is good, but they have some bogus refs. It's a little off topic, but we might be able to start a team AO WA and stuff. PM me if you're interested.

[Additude]

Originally posted by FooTemps
I have so many of these friggin threads that I lost count!
Ok, now that I have a paintball gun I'm sorta happy... MY ONLY PROBLEM IS THAT MY PARENTS WON'T LET ME USE IT!!! They refuse to take me to the field and sign the waivers.

Any methods on trasportation besides taking the bus(can't take metro or county bus cuz it still won't reach the fields)?

I'm planning on going broke off a taxi right now. It should worry my parents enough that they'll take me... I mean, would you let your kid pay 200 dollars for a taxi just to get to the paintball field and back?

ALSO: Don't mention paying my parents per ride. I already tried that. Please don't tell me to get rides with friends either, I kinda lose face when I invite a friend to paintballing and ask them for a ride.

Foo, you said they wouldn't let you play paintball but you didn't say WHY they wouldn't let you play. Maybe your parents have a good reason....or maybe you haven't taken the time out to sit down with them and talk about it in the right way.

I won't amuse myself trying to figure out your parents reasoning, but the one thing I can tell you about your parents is that they are responsible. Responsible as adults and responsible for you and your actions.

Now your contemplating to commit deceit, fraud and jeopardize the trust your parents have in you just to play paintball? Are you willing to make that sacrifice?

Why don't you re-direct your energies and thoughts? Channel those energies into something positive that both you and your parents can live with.

I think you need to sit down with your parents and have a sincere, serious and mature discussion with them about paintball. They will listen to you if you are in control and serious. Initiate the meeting. Rehearse your questions and anticipate your answers. Negotiate for a settlement that is a win-win. You don't know what a "win" situation is for them unless you negotiate. What are you willing to give up for what you want? Are you willing to quit paintball and never discuss it again if you are injured? Will your parents give you the opportunity to prove to them that you can be responsible with a serious sport? These are just a few things to think about and discuss with your parents.

Don't cop-out and go behind your parents back to get what you want, take the high road and have some self respect, talk to them face to face. Your parents will melt with your maturity and reconsider their position.
:)

[scrambler]

I'm truley sorry to here parents don't get into your interests, but on the other side what do you do to piss them off? Do you have chores you ***** about and not get done? Do you talk to them level headed about how things are going in your life? To let you know i have a 12ve year old that i take and play along with his buddies which takes 2 vechiles i make my wife drive then she goes to mall. But every kid has chores and saves money to paintball then i take them out to eat if i have extra money, i'm the only parent that does this, with there parents permission to sign waivers. Maybe this doesnt help much but like previous thread you need to sit down and have a serious talk with parents and your dad needs to understand that he has all the time to himself after your out on your own, that time with your kids is the most important thing. This probably doesn't help much but you wanted replys if you was closer i'd give you a ride..

Bill
A proud Parent

[FatMan]

FooTemps,

I have to agree with Additude and Scrambler. There is more going on here than meets the eye. Do your parents have something against paintball, or would they react the same if you wanted to go play soccer?

An important thing to remember is that paintball has a bad image. Many parents think if their kid is into paintball he's going to end up doing a "Columbine" (sp?) or something. You have to educate them - and you have to do it in a way that works. First off, reacting with anger only reinforces the sterotype! You have to show them you are responsible, you are NOT a gun nut, you are going out there to learn leadership, responsibility, and healthy athletic competition.

Next you have to earn their support - as has been pointed out you should have chores, you should participate in earning the money to play, you SHOULD arrange other rides sometimes so it isn't ALWAYS your parent's turn to drive. You have to be keeping up with your school and other stuff (sounds like you're already doing that).

Finally, you've got to talk to them. You've got to ask them what their concerns are and consider their answers rationally - no matter how wrong or unfair they may seem. Try to clear up their misconceptions. Try to compromise with their conflicting goals. Impress them that you are dealing with them as an adult.

Its a two-way street, dude, and you are stepping up to the ways of an adult. Your parents are confused and conerned. If they weren't they wouldn't care WHAT you do. They are reacting to your behavior and a good dose of media hype. You are going to have to address BOTH to change things.

Responsibility begins when you nolonger allow someone else's behavior to control your emotions. What that means is just because someone does something you don't like, you don't get PISSED about it. Instead you DO something about it in a calm and rational manner. Reacting with anger is childish, and your parents have good reason to be cautious as long as you continue childish behavior.

Step up to the plate dude! We all think you are up to it!

FatMan

[Gup44]

Right-on additude...

Foo (and InfinatyBPS) your parents have a responsiblity to raise you. Not only that, but I assume they also have their own lives. Just because you are their kid doesn't mean they owe you a trip to the paintball field.

Look for ways to earn it. Don't expect the world to come to you, 'cause it won't. You have to go out and get it. I see this attitude in alot of guys, like the world owes them something. Dude, WORK for it. Find a way to please and appease your folks. If it means hittin' the books for school, do it. If it means asking what you can do to help around the house... DO IT. Whatever you have to do. IF you want to play paintball, you have to work for it.

Additude was right on, sit down and have a little pow-wow with the folks and let them know this is what you want to do. BE RESPECTFUL. Nothing will turn a parent off quicker than a lack of respect (believe me, I'm a parent). Compromise, make deals, tell them what you are willing to do for them if they will do for you. Don't assume anything. If they say you can play, don't assume they will take you. Nail all of those details down in your meeting with your folks. Ask them for what you want. Tell them what you'll give. That's how the world works... In economics they call it opportunity cost. It means what are you willing to pay for what you want.

Forget the deceit. If they catch you in that, you can say bye-bye to paintball. Be a man, be honest. Work for what you want. Then, if they say no... respect their decision. It may seem like a long time, but once you're old enough to be on your own, you can pick it up heavy. I know when you are young it feels like the end of the world when you can't do what you want. But don't sweat it. It'll come if you keep working at it!;)

[InfinatyBPS]

I have done all that, I get good grades, I do everything that I am told, there is no way of convincing my father, he just like totaly dosent want to do anything for me, and for him having his own life, his life is sitting at his computer all day and playing games. I have tried talking to him and he says, "Don't waste my time!!!" or "Go away!!!" It takes me weeks to convince him just to drive me 15 minutes away to my teammates house to get a ride. He dosen't care how I feel or what I say he just does whatever he wants. I just find it strange he would rather go to a strangers house all day and fix their computer or whatever and not get paid anything most of the time, then to take me to go play paintball and just chill out for a few hours. And don't say to wait till I get my license, they won't(or should I say can't) pay insurance on the car to cover me, and I'm not allowd to get a job until I'm 18, and even then it would have to be to pay for college(which my parents didn't even think of saving for) And don't say start saving, the pennies I get now aren't hardly enough to play paintball once every 2 months. Sorry again for venting on your thread Foo, I just gotta say what I gotta say...
Oh ya, I also have pretty much no social life because I can't get a ride to anyone's house or whatever because nobody will drive me because I go to a school like 30 mins away and I have to take the bus like right after school so Go to school come home is pretty much my days... I don't have many friends around my house because most of the kids who aren't drug dealers or heavy gang bangers are locked up in their house like I am. So can you yet tell I have a pretty jacked up existance. Well at least I have AO :)

[Additude]

Originally posted by InfinatyBPS
I also have pretty much no social life because I can't get a ride to anyone's house or whatever because nobody will drive me because I go to a school like 30 mins away and I have to take the bus like right after school so Go to school come home is pretty much my days... I don't have many friends around my house because most of the kids who aren't drug dealers or heavy gang bangers are locked up in their house like I am. So can you yet tell I have a pretty jacked up existance. Well at least I have AO :)

Wait until you get a job you have work 40+ hrs a week at, have a wife and two kids, diapers, toys, clothes for 4 people, a house payment, furniture, beds to buy, appliances to purchase, personal hygene supplies, car payments, gasoline and oil, food, insurance, doctor bills, water, heat, air, electric, cleaning the house, mowing the lawn, planting the yard, fixing stuff when it gets broken, painting the house, washing the cars, fixing the cars, pets, school supplies, shopping for all that stuff, school functions for my kids including sports functions, a night out once and awhile to a movie or dinner, and whew.....the list goes on. Maybe that's why I only got the boat out 4 times last year! And heck, I'm still paying for that....and the wifes $7,000 diamond ring!....and saving for my kids college!

Just wait, it's a comming.....you'll have some.....less you wanna be like you say your Dad is.

But that's OK, my kids don't think I do much anyway either.

[slateman]

FooTemps you've posted these kind of threads that its almost funny (sorry, just tryin to lighten up the mood) I sort of know how you feel. My parents would only drive me places if it had something to do with school or if I begged for days. The best thing to do would be to get rides from people. Yea I know it sucks but how much do you love this sport? You can make it up by giving people like you are now a ride in a few years. Thats what I did.

As for the waiver issue, it might be time for the mature son-to-parent. Yea there not fun but sometimes ya gotta do it. Whatever you do KEEP YOUR TEMPER!!!!

[fenris69]

Hey, im 22 , and I gotta pay to get to pball :) I do things for my mom..pay her 5 bucks a trip usually. Sure it's embarrasing, but I love to play and can't afford a vehicle right now. What can you do? suck it up.

As for the parent thing, the sit-down is a grand idea...however one cannot discount that some people are just jerks, regardless of their parental role. people are...well...people. So you may not find a solution. Do you have an older sibling(of legal age) willing to sign for you? How far is the field? Could you bike out there? Is it worth an hour on a bike to play pball? I say yes. thats what I'll be doing in a month.(course for me it's more like 30min)

[FooTemps]

Additude, Scrambler, Fatman, and Gup44...

I honesty try to talk to them but it always ends in a dead end. They truely don't have any reason to hate paintball but for some reason they do. It might just be becasue they're being over protective or something but they just say they don't like it. You know, "My word is the law" type stuff....

I don't get allowance or anything. I do chores like take the trash out and clean up the aparments. They pay me stuff per chore, not per week. I sometimes save up my lunch money for paintball and I pay for all my paintball stuff. It's just that my parents won't sign the waivers or give me rides to the fields.

Oh, and... My parents get pissed off at me for getting a B+ grade average. They also get pissed off at me when I get frustrated. (The only reason I get frustrated is because my parents don't ever give me a straight RATIONAL reason to why they don't like paintball)

Cardinal Biggles...
I live in the Shoreline area. I wish I could go to KC crusaders but it's TOO FRICKIN FAR AWAY... I agree about the refs but I've only been there on those good days. Hmmm... Didn't Hole in the wall close down or something? That's what I heard.

I forgot to add Slateman...
I've begged my parents for over a year and they still refuse to have anything to do with paintball... Heck, sometimes they won't even take me to school stuff.

Fenris, I can't bike out there... It already takes 1 hour to get there going an average of 60 mph in a car. I can't even begin to fathom biking 45 miles... My brother lives in Cali so he couldn't take me to any fields.

[fenris69]

thats too bad, your in a bit of a corner. probly they dont want to drive all that way, cant say I blame em. And theres nothing closer?? Might want to call the fields you do know and see if they know of anyone else in your area. In this case it's not like theyre losing any business, they may be willing to help. The other option is to buy up some pumps/stock classs and go play some outlaw. Something I considered when I was younger and pball was a little harder to find. I say pump/stock because the equipment,paint and air costs are much lower(what a used pgp? 40-50?), plus you dont have to worry about fills with 12g's. You can pick those up at walmart. The tough part would be finding a good location. lol...hell you could start your own field in a couple years when you can get a business license :)

[raehl]

If you're 22 and need a ride from your parents to play paintball..

Stop playing paintball. Get a car and a better job. Then come back and play paintball later.

Priorities man.


- Chris

[magic55]

nobody cares. just figure it out yourself this is getting rediculous.

[FooTemps]

Um... I figured it out ok? Sheesh...

[BlindSeaman]

Thats strange well at least to me, espeically the part of your parents not wanting to spend time with yah.(not the main poster, but the other guy) Hell my dad would take me and a friend boarding when I couldn't drive and just hang out in the lodge for like 7 hours reading on a saturday, pretty damn cool he would waste his saturday. Also would take me p-ballin when I wanted to go.


I'm plenty old enough to drive now though, so me and friends go ourselves. But, my parents always bug me that they want to come watch sometime because they say it sounds like fun. Hmmmm, maybe I should be nicer to my parents.:)

[BlindSeaman]

And to all the people talking about attitude, some peoples parents are just dicks. My parents have always given me a lot of freedom, and for that I have done well and not pissed them off. Some of my friends parents are sooo strange/asses I can't imagine how they can live with them.:(

Just remember not to be like that to your kids.

[Cliffio]

Originally posted by magic55
nobody cares. just figure it out yourself this is getting rediculous.

thats very rude, foo is a great guy and doesnt need u flaming him,

hey foo, ill give u a ride whenever u wanna go, just look me up baller

[FooTemps]

I'll call u if i'm ever ridin in Illinois... lol

[Cliffio]

alrighty, just let me know man
:)

[FooTemps]

Originally posted by Cliffio
alrighty, just let me know man
:)

Can I crash at yer place during the megameet???:D :D :D

[Cliffio]

hell yeah, whens that?

[FooTemps]

I next year in the summer...

[Cliffio]

i dunno anything about the mega meet?
is it like this summer?

or when? just wondering

also, where is the mega meet?

[Cliffio]

just asking cause im sure it will be near chi-town, id drive 2 hours to chi town for ao mega meet

that would be fun, course i wouldnt be shooting a mag, but oh well:)
then everyone could be like LOOK, I SHOT AN ANGEL, YIPPPEEEE:rolleyes:

[FooTemps]

I'll pm you THE SECRET... LOL, "YAY! I SHOT AN ANGEL WITH MY PG1 PRO!!!"

[Cliffio]

u got any pics of your gun?
just wondering

[FooTemps]

I'll post them up asap...

[Cliffio]

good i wanna see it, didnt u get it for free? from tunaman or for really cheap?

[FooTemps]

I got it from majordamage... Still don't have anything for it. Oh yeah, I still need to pay majordamage the shipping cost...

[Cliffio]

hey atleast its metal, not all plastic, and its a spyder clone from what i can see, how does it shoot?
im just wondering, kinda curious
and if i could help in this situation i would but my parents were all for me playing paintball, hell its alot of excersize(sp) if nothing else

[FooTemps]

Actually, it's a VM68 clone... heh, it's THAT old. The only thing that's plastic is the grip. I don't know how it shoots yet cuz I don't have anything for it yet. Kinda on the heavy side but it'll be nice for training.

[Cliffio]

nice furby

[FooTemps]

LOL! It's broken...

[Cliffio]

which one is that?
its broken huh, well then im the person u wanna talk to, ive prolly got a million of those if one of our storage sheds

im not kidding i bet we have a few thousand

[FooTemps]

It's the one that blinks and makes the "tTtTtTtTtTtTtTtTtTtTtTtTtTtTt" sound... What do you expect from those mcdonald's toys?

[Cliffio]

hey now watch it, your getting personal here talking about mcdonalds

they have QUALITY toys and DELICIOUS food