Why so many on/off designs?

[OPBN]

I got in a Classic AM today and while disassembling it for cleaning/rebuild the on/off literally dropped out of the valve. After looking at it, I realized I hadn't seen one like this before. Then I started looking around and realized how many different on/off styles there are in the Classic style valves. Why? I mean the powertube went from the spring spacers to the solid spacers, but that's pretty much it besides the L10. Were there just a fair amount of aftermarker on/offs? What was the point? I will say that the on/off in this one is the only I have seen like it. And it seriously just drops out of the valve. Odd.

[Cyco-Dude]

sounds like a reactor on/off to me (http://mcarterbrown.com/ravi/Articles/Reactor/Reactor.html). i guess that was a thing back in the day; third party bolts, on/offs, regulator bodies...all claiming improved performance, etc etc.

[river031403]

If you'd like to sell it let me know please

[BigEvil]

There was a perceived drop off problem with the classic valves which many manufacturers tried to capitalize on. Most aftermarket on/offs did nothing. Some improved the trigger pull. The Centerflag on/off that came with the hyperframes is the best of the bunch.

[OPBN]

Not sure how anyone is determining that it's a reactor without looking at it.... I'll post a pic later. May sell seperate if someone wants it.

[BigEvil]

Not sure how anyone is determining that it's a reactor without looking at it.... I'll post a pic later. May sell seperate if someone wants it.

Because the 'dropping out' part was pretty common with them if you weren't careful. The bottom part is smaller, IIRC

[river031403]

I posted up interest let me know thanks

[OPBN]

Because the 'dropping out' part was pretty common with them if you weren't careful. The bottom part is smaller, IIRC

Smaller section is solid instead of having holes/slots like a lot of others. I'll get some pics up later.

[fstop_22]

sounds like a reactor on/off to me (http://mcarterbrown.com/ravi/Articles/Reactor/Reactor.html). i guess that was a thing back in the day; third party bolts, on/offs, regulator bodies...all claiming improved performance, etc etc.
My pro-shop, Exotic Sportz, still carries the reactor on/off. They were originally $40 but the manager would sell me them for $20. I'm still relatively new to the world that is automag. I had considered purchasing one but is it really worth it?

[river031403]

My pro-shop, Exotic Sportz, still carries the reactor on/off. They were originally $40 but the manager would sell me them for $20. I'm still relatively new to the world that is automag. I had considered purchasing one but is it really worth it?

Do you have your pro shops address or phone I'll pick one up

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EXOTIC SPORTZ EXOTIC SPORTZ

23911 Eureka Rd. 123 Pearl Street

Taylor, MI 48180 Pinckney, MI 48169

(734) 287-6460 (734) 878-2002

Cut and pasted from their site. I usually go to the Taylor store. Andrew is the manager/salesman I normally speak with.

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EXOTIC SPORTZ
23911 Eureka Rd.
Taylor, MI 48180
(734) 287-6460

[river031403]

Cool thanks

[Nobody]

also, look at the mag as a package from the aftermarket standpoint. the rear reg body, to make a new one, is a significant purchase. to CAD it up, spend for the tooling, machine it, materials. the on/off, is a small piece, so its easy to make and easy to sell.

[OPBN]

I guess my question more specifically was in regards to the stock on/off. I thought there were multiple stock on/off designs?

[Runamok]

The many different designs were to improve re-charge time between shots. Free'er flow to the dump chamber. I think I have 4 or so different ones.

[athomas]

The on-off in the classic valve always worked fine. The only change was when the top piece went from the one with the X cut in the bottom, to the universal design we have now. That was done to prevent people from putting it in upside down, which almost everyone has done at one time or another.

The other update was the retro valve on-off and ULT. The retro valve on-off was different for the new valve but it was based on the same basic look and spacing as the classic. The ULT on-off was designed for the retro valve but not the classic.

[skipdogg]

It is probably a reactor on/off. even without pics. the top is basically a spacer. to put the valve back in the body you have to turn the whole gun upside down.