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luke
07-08-2014, 06:13 PM
I'm going to make a few EM battery pack bottoms, does anyone need one? As I understand they are in short supply.

They won't be anything fancy or earth shattering just a ULE replacement for the factory part.

athomas
07-08-2014, 07:29 PM
When you make them, hollow the bottom out on the inside to make them a bit longer on the inside dimensions. That way, users can use the longer button cells for replacement battery packs without making the battery too tight in the housing. Users having original length packs, can still use a spacer to keep the pack from moving.

PsychoJester
07-08-2014, 07:33 PM
How much and are you talking about just the bottom part of the battery holder?

steve_81
07-08-2014, 09:50 PM
How much and are you talking about just the bottom part of the battery holder?

Yes, just the small bottom portion of the battery holder PyschoJester. Thanks again Luke for undertaking this project.

luke
07-08-2014, 10:22 PM
How much and are you talking about just the bottom part of the battery holder?

Yes, just the bottom.

Tunaman
07-10-2014, 04:44 PM
Just be careful. There is exactly ZERO room for error or the bolt heads will be through the wall of the bottom. Been there done this.

luke
07-10-2014, 05:12 PM
Just be careful. There is exactly ZERO room for error or the bolt heads will be through the wall of the bottom. Been there done this.

Can you elaborate?

Bunny
07-11-2014, 07:48 AM
I would be interested in a few. If I remember correctly, I had about 4-5 times in the re-anodizing process where the bottom piece disappeared and I had to track down another one. :( I would stick to the original design of the bottom part dovetail and all. I remember the custom milled packs with the dovetail milled off would sometimes cut it too close to the end of the piece. (Hopefully that makes sense) If not, I will get some pictures for comparison.

knownothingmags
07-11-2014, 01:51 PM
Just be careful. There is exactly ZERO room for error or the bolt heads will be through the wall of the bottom. Been there done this.

PTP did this a lot,

steve_81
07-11-2014, 07:29 PM
It's gotta work, I need one lol

luke
07-12-2014, 03:27 PM
I got around to doing some measuring and the thinnest wall that looks like it could be a problem in the anno tank is between the dovetail and the countersink for the bolt head, it's 0.0177". I can fudge that some because the dove tail has no use down there at the bottom.

When I reverse engineered the part years ago, I did the cavity bottoms with a wall thickness of 0.066" which is sufficient. (Per Tunamans comment)
On the other bolt head "countersink wall" the thinnest part is 0.022" cant really fudge that because it wouldn't match the pack.

I wonder if the anno guys are running the tanks with to many amps?

knownothingmags
07-12-2014, 04:25 PM
I got around to doing some measuring and the thinnest wall that looks like it could be a problem in the anno tank is between the dovetail and the countersink for the bolt head, it's 0.0177". I can fudge that some because the dove tail has no use down there at the bottom.

When I reverse engineered the part years ago, I did the cavity bottoms with a wall thickness of 0.066" which is sufficient. (Per Tunamans comment)
On the other bolt head "countersink wall" the thinnest part is 0.022" cant really fudge that because it wouldn't match the pack.

I wonder if the anno guys are running the tanks with to many amps?

I would talk to ptp,
they don't make their pack bottoms with the dovetail,
and that one bolt head counter sink has broken through the wall on the ones I have gotten, they have never caused any problems for me.

my 2 cents.

luke
07-12-2014, 04:40 PM
I dont recall ever seeing one without the dove tail, does it look OK on the pack?

It would save time if I didn't do the dovetail, I could pass that on to you guys. I want to make these low enough in price that it wouldn't make sense to send one in for ULE milling. That way I can drop that mod service and just sell the new ULE bottoms.

BLachance75
07-12-2014, 05:12 PM
I have a PTP battery pack at home I can take a pic of for you. They cut the dovetail off about halfway down the battery case and have a bottom with a flat back.

I found this, shows the cut on the battery pack. I'll take a pic of just the bottom if you want.

http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/ss59/blachance75/Markers/Ripper%20Mag/C823FA1E-0524-414A-A30B-C073B38702FF_zps8zikdaql.jpg (http://s561.photobucket.com/user/blachance75/media/Markers/Ripper%20Mag/C823FA1E-0524-414A-A30B-C073B38702FF_zps8zikdaql.jpg.html)

http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/ss59/blachance75/195D142B-DBB6-43CD-9887-33F53F55548B_zpsnmiip4zp.jpg (http://s561.photobucket.com/user/blachance75/media/195D142B-DBB6-43CD-9887-33F53F55548B_zpsnmiip4zp.jpg.html)

luke
07-12-2014, 10:12 PM
Here would be the two machining options, either one will fix the problem and cost a little less than the dovetail.

Option 1
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii405/mtumbleson/BatteryPackBottomOp1_zps1e73a31b.jpg (http://s550.photobucket.com/user/mtumbleson/media/BatteryPackBottomOp1_zps1e73a31b.jpg.html)

Option 2
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii405/mtumbleson/BatteryPackBottomOp2_zps05ea7767.jpg (http://s550.photobucket.com/user/mtumbleson/media/BatteryPackBottomOp2_zps05ea7767.jpg.html)

I vote for option 1.

steve_81
07-12-2014, 11:17 PM
I would have to say Option 1 as well.

athomas
07-13-2014, 08:51 AM
I like option 2. Why do we need the dovetail on the bottom at all. Without the dovetail it is much easier to make, it is stronger, and it doesn't have any sharp points.

luke
07-14-2014, 05:26 PM
Got these done today, I went with option 1.
I'm going to stock these and no longer offer the ule milling.

http://www.lukescustoms.com/Page16_Emag/AGD%20Emag%20Battery%20Pack%20Bottom%20Replacement .jpg

steve_81
07-14-2014, 06:11 PM
Hey Luke did you put one in my package you shipped out today? If so you are awesome! lol

luke
07-14-2014, 06:20 PM
Hey Luke did you put one in my package you shipped out today? If so you are awesome! lol

Of course, that's the main reason I made them. ;)