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slackerwil
07-30-2014, 12:13 AM
What tanks/regs work well with an xvalve mag and/or pnuemag without dropoff?

Thanks

Cyco-Dude
07-30-2014, 12:30 AM
depends on what you're trying to do / how fast you're shooting. really, ninja is the only game in town for high pressure output. otherwise, most other regs are fine. punkworks did some dropoff reg testing a while back and found the myth regs lagged behind a bit. whether that's still the case with their newer myth regs i do not know.

the tank itself is irrelevant.

slackerwil
07-30-2014, 01:03 AM
Would the ninja pro reg (800psi output) be sufficient to keep up with a pneumag? I also understand the Crossfire SS regs have an output pressure of 850. I dont want to get the ninja SHP reg. I want to be able to use this tank for my mag and elctro. marker.

Laku
07-30-2014, 01:49 AM
Would the ninja pro reg (800psi output) be sufficient to keep up with a pneumag? I also understand the Crossfire SS regs have an output pressure of 850. I dont want to get the ninja SHP reg. I want to be able to use this tank for my mag and elctro. marker.

Ninja pro should work just fine. I have one that i use also in my electro.

ninjapaintball
07-31-2014, 07:56 AM
the pro reg will work but if you wnat a faster rate of fire the SHP at 950 or at 1100 will get you there, more pressure will equal faster bps.

Grelvire
07-31-2014, 09:02 AM
Air America Armageddon

thecroatiansensation
07-31-2014, 09:51 AM
With SHP ninja reg I believe that you can adjust the output from 800 to 1100. Best of both worlds. That is why mag users love ninja regs...

Laku
07-31-2014, 10:13 AM
With SHP ninja reg I believe that you can adjust the output from 800 to 1100. Best of both worlds. That is why mag users love ninja regs...

Actually from 950 to 1100.

ninjapaintball
07-31-2014, 10:52 AM
to be clear it is 950 or 1100 - it is a preset reg so it is 1 or the other pressure but nothing between.

Fred
07-31-2014, 03:45 PM
4500 AGD Flatline till you pry it from my cold dead hands... (or I run out of reg seats)

Screw in HPA. Hah! ;)

thecroatiansensation
07-31-2014, 09:08 PM
Sorry about that, no disrespect Ninja. My bad.

Although I have one of the 1200 psi output regs that you guys put out about 4 years ago and that thing rocks the x-valve the best.

ninjapaintball
08-01-2014, 07:38 AM
Sorry about that, no disrespect Ninja. My bad.

Although I have one of the 1200 psi output regs that you guys put out about 4 years ago and that thing rocks the x-valve the best.

non taken and just wanted to make sure he knows what it is.

glad the 1200 works well for you!

Beemer
08-03-2014, 10:11 AM
4500 AGD Flatline till you pry it from my cold dead hands... (or I run out of reg seats)

Screw in HPA.Hah! ;)


:cool:

astr0xz0mbie
08-04-2014, 02:58 PM
i use a ninja shp pro v2 reg with a ninja 68/4500 SL tank :D

djinnform
08-04-2014, 10:07 PM
Ninja SHP gives 2 of my mags the RT effect, perfectly, with whatever the pre-set psi is, 1100 I think.

I also seem to remember that Tuna told me to run 800 PSI through the pneumag, so I use the normal Ninja reg for that mag. For the pneumag, I always worry that the higher pressure will burst the micro lines and waste too much air. It shoots missiles at 800.

To prevent the dropoff, chrono by pulling the bottom of the trigger slowly.

Runamok
08-05-2014, 05:58 AM
I use Air America Apocalypses SS and 2k's. I can adjust the input to whatever I want. 775-850 for normal days, 900-1150 for hair on fire day's. It's all about re charge rate, your valve will reg it to operating pressure and vel. Mine will still rt at lower pressure just not as radical.

Fred
08-05-2014, 08:08 AM
Ninja SHP gives 2 of my mags the RT effect, perfectly, with whatever the pre-set psi is, 1100 I think.

I also seem to remember that Tuna told me to run 800 PSI through the pneumag, so I use the normal Ninja reg for that mag. For the pneumag, I always worry that the higher pressure will burst the micro lines and waste too much air. It shoots missiles at 800.

To prevent the dropoff, chrono by pulling the bottom of the trigger slowly.

Your LPR should output a consistent low pressure for the pneu-trigger bits, unless you get some crazy spikes from the high pressure reg...

SoulCoffin
08-05-2014, 08:20 AM
big e tuned up my pneumag, and my xmag, nicely with my SHP tank (shp ninja reg on an old 68/45 crossfire tank). they both shoot beautifully now, with the tank.

Spider-TW
08-05-2014, 08:38 AM
Would the ninja pro reg (800psi output) be sufficient to keep up with a pneumag? I also understand the Crossfire SS regs have an output pressure of 850. I dont want to get the ninja SHP reg. I want to be able to use this tank for my mag and elctro. marker.

My first ninja reg was one of those $35 3k bottles. At 800 psi it kept up with my pneumag. It is an EP mag now and I still use an old crossfire with it 800-850.

Those bottles work fine on an x-valve, just not much kick in the trigger. I keep three bottles in hydro for different uses.

Cyco-Dude
08-05-2014, 12:07 PM
I also seem to remember that Tuna told me to run 800 PSI through the pneumag, so I use the normal Ninja reg for that mag. For the pneumag, I always worry that the higher pressure will burst the micro lines and waste too much air.
it shouldn't; it goes through the low pressure regulator first before any air gets into your microlines. now, it could be that the lpr you have can't handle 1,000+ psi input.

maverick13
08-05-2014, 12:55 PM
4500 flatline on my RT ULE
Ninja SHP on all others excepted the pneu or EP !
I also have a Guerilla G2 HP I use on my pneu or EP and that works perfectly on others !

Gunga
08-07-2014, 12:35 AM
Air America Armageddon on my RT Pro.

Flatline 4500 on my E-Mags.

Could use either reg on either gun...but that's just the way I have it set up with my Warp Feeds.

RT Lover
08-08-2014, 09:36 PM
Air America Armageddon on my RT Pro.

Flatline 4500 on my E-Mags.

Could use either reg on either gun...but that's just the way I have it set up with my Warp Feeds.


What's the most u can jack up the output on those? I have a sweet ninja super light but has shp on another tank. Want to have 1100 on the SL but run other markers that aren't mags.... Something I can easy adjust on the fly???

Spider-TW
08-08-2014, 10:57 PM
What's the most u can jack up the output on those? I have a sweet ninja super light but has shp on another tank. Want to have 1100 on the SL but run other markers that aren't mags.... Something I can easy adjust on the fly???


It's kind of funny/sad, the easy adjustment regs don't move easily from one marker to another, unless they are basically the same setup.

RT Lover
08-08-2014, 11:15 PM
It's kind of funny/sad, the easy adjustment regs don't move easily from one marker to another, unless they are basically the same setup.

Use a dove tail or they make mounts u pull the pin u slide the tank off...

Konigballer
09-04-2014, 02:55 PM
Performance with each tank reg/valve combo will be different for everyone's mag. I like running my classic RT's on a Ninja SHP tank set to 950psi. Neither will actually RT at that input pressure, but the trigger is so bouncy that it makes it easy to hit a decent bps even on a single trigger Benchmark frame. My field has a pretty strict ROF cap of 10 or 11bps, so it's not hard to stay competitive with electros, and not attract unwanted attention.

I used to run a Gen 2 SP MaxFlo adjustable reg on my RT valved Minimag, and that was a quality reg with a fantastic re-charge rate that would make any mag RT easily. It was just so large and fugly I got tired of it and went back to screw in tanks.

DarkApollo
09-04-2014, 04:08 PM
SmartParts 4500 MaxFLO... My Ninja reg keeps blowing the high-side burst disk. I bought it new and it has been nothing but problems since day 1.. It has gone through no less than 5 high side burst disks (the 7.5k ones) and it never matters the tank pressure. It is the ONLY reg that has ever given me this issue. Dont get me wrong, I have used other Ninja regs on other tanks and had 0 issue. In fact I have a Ninja on my GF's peanut tank because I like their regs. Maybe I got a bum one, I do not know.
That same tank is attached to my MaxFLO now and for the past two years it has caused me no issue. :shrug:

ninjapaintball
09-04-2014, 04:22 PM
for the high side burst disk to pop so rare! for you to go thru so many is very, very odd.

can i call you or discuss this with you? it may be a different issue that can be solved.

DarkApollo
09-04-2014, 06:00 PM
Ninja, I sent you a PM with my sob-story. :)

I thought it was odd too and I suspected the disks were bad, but a disk out of the same box has been on a different reg and has not failed. One is also installed on my MaxFLO and has held for 2 years now.

zondo
09-04-2014, 06:36 PM
I'm running an original Ninja 68/45 with enough shims to get to 850-900 and no drop off. Just got my tanks re-hydro'd (thanks again, Ninja) so I'm back in the game!

Grelvire
09-04-2014, 09:39 PM
An Armageddon you can crank to 1200, and most of the orings are the same that the automag valves take

going_home
09-04-2014, 09:43 PM
4 tanks (2 too many) all Ninja, one SHP first run, one SLP pro v1, one standard ninja, one Pro V2 (which doesnt play nice at all with the POPS on the LV1).

Laku
09-04-2014, 11:46 PM
one Pro V2 (which doesnt play nice at all with the POPS on the LV1). Is it because too much resistance due to the bigger surface area of the ball valve?
Just curious cause I have v1 for my geo3

ninjapaintball
09-05-2014, 09:05 AM
sent a pm back and got busy last nite, sorry.

ninjapaintball
09-05-2014, 09:06 AM
with any of the on/off asa styles you should ste the pro v2 to 450 becuase fo the added volume of air to open it. with the lower pressure it will be easy to use the lv1

Laku
09-05-2014, 09:20 AM
with any of the on/off asa styles you should ste the pro v2 to 450 becuase fo the added volume of air to open it. with the lower pressure it will be easy to use the lv1

Unless you want to use the same bottle with mag as well.

ninjapaintball
09-05-2014, 09:28 AM
Unless you want to use the same bottle with mag as well.

correct and sorry!

going_home
09-05-2014, 10:39 AM
with any of the on/off asa styles you should ste the pro v2 to 450 becuase fo the added volume of air to open it. with the lower pressure it will be easy to use the lv1

How do you do that ?

ninjapaintball
09-05-2014, 10:49 AM
How do you do that ?

remove all air
remove 3 bonnet screws
remove bonnet
take out all the silver flat shims - not the curved springs
reassemble