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bowcycle
09-14-2014, 06:13 PM
I just traded a z-grip for one of Luke's mini-vert frames. Problem is, all of my on/off ASA's look horrible with it.

So what do you guys run with your mini-vert?

Pics/links of them mounted would be really helpful.

Thanks

Cyco-Dude
09-14-2014, 10:48 PM
i've always thought the smaller on/offs looked good with the skinny vert frames. so like, those cage asas (http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y200/m-a-r-k-7/AUT_0104.jpg) or a cp mini rail (http://store.customproducts.us/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.prodInfo&productID=180&categoryID=2) with mini on/off asa (http://store.customproducts.us/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.prodInfo&productID=176&categoryID=3).

i don't think the mini direct mount looks that bad either (http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/ss59/blachance75/7D23A7A3-F250-4927-91AE-51615763E2D4-2474-000004487490356E_zps59d227aa.jpg). here's another example (http://i1078.photobucket.com/albums/w492/maverick13fr/DALLARA2.jpg).

bowcycle
09-14-2014, 11:29 PM
I have an empire mini rail and this thing is tiny, but it still sticks out past the bottom of the frame on one end or the other. The lines just aren't good for this frame, but the cp mini on/off i have seems to be the right size. I just don't have a cp rail to check out.

Also, i have a cage ASA, but it doesn't autobleed and, while that's fine on my cockers, i hate asa's that don't auto bleed on mags.

Thanks for posting those links.

dboggs79
09-15-2014, 12:10 AM
Use the CP mini and no rail. You can have Luke dovetail the frame. Would make for a nice small and clean setup.

Cyco-Dude
09-15-2014, 01:52 AM
I just don't have a cp rail to check out..
well, if you go for a different rail, make sure to get the mini cp rail, and not the larger standard sized rail (http://store.customproducts.us/index.cfm?fuseaction=catalog.prodInfo&productID=6&categoryID=2). the standard rail is much larger than the empire mini rail (i've got both sitting right here in front of me).

going_home
09-15-2014, 06:22 AM
Why not one of Luke's offset wedges ?

RT Lover
09-15-2014, 06:34 AM
eclipse oops, small in design I think and looked good on it

capt spank
09-15-2014, 08:51 AM
i've always liked bob long gear and cam drives.

bowcycle
09-15-2014, 06:15 PM
Why not one of Luke's offset wedges ?

mainly because they're not yet available in lefty.

Thanks for all the suggestions, guys.

Cyco, are the empire mini rail and cp mini rail about the same length?

Cyco-Dude
09-15-2014, 06:34 PM
Cyco, are the empire mini rail and cp mini rail about the same length?

i do not actually have a cp mini rail, just the standard. i think the mini is a smaller length (especially at the top) but a little more depth than the empire micro rail. i'll try to calculate the size and get back to you.

here is ans gear's video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-snD9mmv5ro) covering the different cp asas and rails; he uses a vert frame in his demonstration so that should give you some idea.

maverick13
09-16-2014, 03:46 PM
I've a CP direct mount on mine

bowcycle
09-16-2014, 07:43 PM
I've a CP direct mount on mine

I know lots of people like them, but I've just never been a fan of the direct mounts.

Cyco-Dude
09-16-2014, 08:36 PM
I know lots of people like them, but I've just never been a fan of the direct mounts.

depends on the frame. for me, all i care about is getting the correct reach, getting the correct rise, and having something that will position the tank so that it's not in the way of my wrist. sometimes it's done with a direct mount, sometimes it's done with a rail and asa. use what works.

BLachance75
09-18-2014, 01:07 PM
Here is a CCM rail and ASA on my Ripper Mag
http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/ss59/blachance75/Markers/Ripper%20Mag/4DC3E67A-0A9C-4905-96FD-5BF203443C10_zpsnyze5u5m.jpg (http://s561.photobucket.com/user/blachance75/media/Markers/Ripper%20Mag/4DC3E67A-0A9C-4905-96FD-5BF203443C10_zpsnyze5u5m.jpg.html)

And a CP Direct Mount on my Pump Mag
http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/ss59/blachance75/Markers/Pump%20Mag/IMG_0408_zpsdc215015.jpg (http://s561.photobucket.com/user/blachance75/media/Markers/Pump%20Mag/IMG_0408_zpsdc215015.jpg.html)
http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/ss59/blachance75/Markers/Pump%20Mag/IMG_0407_zpsdf0b3c59.jpg (http://s561.photobucket.com/user/blachance75/media/Markers/Pump%20Mag/IMG_0407_zpsdf0b3c59.jpg.html)

bowcycle
09-18-2014, 02:06 PM
I just picked up a silver cp direct. Looks like that's the only one that doesn't have a weird relation to the rail.

Thanks, guys. I'll post pics when the ASA gets here.

maverick13
09-18-2014, 02:07 PM
I really think you made the right choice !

Skorpion
09-27-2014, 01:59 AM
I just picked up a silver cp direct. Looks like that's the only one that doesn't have a weird relation to the rail.

Thanks, guys. I'll post pics when the ASA gets here.

Was wondering if you put this one together yet. I'm curious how your asa looks as I'm also looking at Luke's vert frame for my mag.

bowcycle
09-27-2014, 02:24 AM
Was wondering if you put this one together yet. I'm curious how your asa looks as I'm also looking at Luke's vert frame for my mag.

Things are running a little late. I should have it together Monday and will get pics up then.

Cyco-Dude
09-27-2014, 04:28 AM
man, i am not a fan of ccm rails. their bolt hole spacing makes them sit weird on the frame.

going_home
09-27-2014, 11:30 AM
man, i am not a fan of ccm rails. their bolt hole spacing makes them sit weird on the frame.

I have a dust black CCM rail and ASA.

I dont like how the rail is longer than the rail part of the ASA, its stupid looking to me.

Guess I should sell it, I'll never use it.

BLachance75
09-29-2014, 11:38 AM
The CCM Mini Drop rail actually fits pretty nice. I think I'm going to get a black one and run the gun this way.

http://i561.photobucket.com/albums/ss59/blachance75/373E7DBD-721A-4BB9-A8D4-F977E464EFB4_zpsc4ldf3m4.jpg (http://s561.photobucket.com/user/blachance75/media/373E7DBD-721A-4BB9-A8D4-F977E464EFB4_zpsc4ldf3m4.jpg.html)

Cyco-Dude
09-29-2014, 11:58 AM
I have a dust black CCM rail and ASA.

I dont like how the rail is longer than the rail part of the ASA, its stupid looking to me.

Guess I should sell it, I'll never use it.
ditch the ccm rail and get an empire nano rail (http://www.ansgear.com/Empire_Nano_Dovetail_Rail_Black_p/empirenanorailblack.htm). that's how i'd run it.

bowcycle
09-29-2014, 08:41 PM
ditch the ccm rail and get an empire nano rail (http://www.ansgear.com/Empire_Nano_Dovetail_Rail_Black_p/empirenanorailblack.htm). that's how i'd run it.

I have a couple of Empire nano rails. Here's why I didn't use them:

https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/q81/s720x720/10409703_10152787052069532_9168382339930146894_n.j pg?oh=ae04048e511f0cea20695c2884ba894f&oe=54BB455E&__gda__=1422324885_f27226b8a13cc041f32ec433cc9d1a1 7

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/995640_10152787052289532_2069676632120281978_n.jpg ?oh=deb9059ce3addcae9d57ae3289572ac1&oe=54BB9868&__gda__=1421529743_2337f8aa4c53de1180ec811efb36db4 6

bowcycle
09-29-2014, 08:43 PM
So here's the full-size CP direct-mount on the vert frame.

I'm not sure how I feel about it compared to the mini direct as seen on Lancecst's pump, but it's good enough for now.

https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10450842_10152787052199532_7228479893259722833_n.j pg?oh=5d2fec0e4b5d51ac8d59d7c57e031a01&oe=54BDFB18&__gda__=1421397223_d9a5f74bc7a8bdb3487d1f58480949a b

Skorpion
09-30-2014, 02:46 AM
After seeing some the options, I'm liking the ccm mini drop on lancest's ripper best.

Laku
09-30-2014, 04:27 AM
I think that cp direct mount looks cleanest of the options here. All the rails in between break the flow of lines for me.

bowcycle
10-12-2014, 11:40 PM
Here's one of my cage drops on the vert frame. This one doesn't have auto bleed so I'm not going to use it, but it looks clean.

https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10685445_10152826868519532_3046409338458888434_n.j pg?oh=3eb861ec726d45330ea0d6294dc31c43&oe=54AAAAA6

bowcycle
10-13-2014, 01:03 PM
anyone have a BL geardrive they can throw on a mini-vert frame just for a pic?

I think this kind of thread is very helpful.