Magazine Scan: PGI Feb 2001: Warpfeed

[Bunny]

AO: Nobody was kind enough to send me a few magazines to scan to upload into the AO archive. After reading a few magazines I really wish we could go back to 2001-2002 :D

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6823946/Magazine%20Scans/PGI%20-%20Feb%2001/PGI-%20Feb%2001-%20Warp1.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6823946/Magazine%20Scans/PGI%20-%20Feb%2001/PGI-%20Feb%2001-%20Warp1-1.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6823946/Magazine%20Scans/PGI%20-%20Feb%2001/PGI-%20Feb%2001-%20Warp2.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6823946/Magazine%20Scans/PGI%20-%20Feb%2001/PGI-%20Feb%2001-%20Warp3.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6823946/Magazine%20Scans/PGI%20-%20Feb%2001/PGI-%20Feb%2001-%20Warp4.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6823946/Magazine%20Scans/PGI%20-%20Feb%2001/PGI-%20Feb%2001-%20Warp5.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/6823946/Magazine%20Scans/PGI%20-%20Feb%2001/PGI-%20Feb%2001-%20Warp6.jpg

*Some of the pictures look kind of weird, but thats what was printed in the magazine.

[Fred]

:headbang: Time flies...

[Nobody]

That time was special, as some of the things now is so alien than 13 years ago. Tourney teams using revies and guns were milled. So many choices of guns and equipment. So long ago...

[Fred]

I think the period in the early 2000s before SP's patent shenanigans was the golden age of the sport. So much innovation, out of the box thinking, and before big conglomerates sucked up so many of the small companies.

[BigEvil]

I think the period in the early 2000s before SP's patent shenanigans was the golden age of the sport. So much innovation, out of the box thinking, and before big conglomerates sucked up so many of the small companies.

Damn right

[cockerpunk]

That time was special, as some of the things now is so alien than 13 years ago. Tourney teams using revies and guns were milled. So many choices of guns and equipment. So long ago...

guns arn't milled today?

does anyone know if ravi's place is still hosted somewhere? always fun to read his old reviews. EDIT: oh nice, MCB still hosts it: http://mcarterbrown.com/ravi/

[Fred]

Ravi pops into the Oldschool paintball guns facebook group from time to time, too.

[bowcycle]

In the late 90's and early 2000's, I used to love going on PBReview to see what new stuff was coming out and what new innovations there were. By about 2k4, every "new" marker looked exactly like something already out there and every "innovation" was just a supposed improvement on existing tech. I stopped looking for anything really new in the sport.

[going_home]

Never could get into, or understand why, someone would use a warp feed.

Such a giant, terribly unbalanced, way to feed a gun.

To each his own I guess.


:confused:

[vintage]

one of my favorite things about the warp feed is that everyone else can see the balls being fed with the lighter color shells and the new ptp warp hose can also be seen thru in bright light.

[going_home]

Tunaball is a bunch of Automag enthusiasts getting together at Topgun Paintball in Cream Ridge NJ.

Last one Mr Kaye came.

Lots of fun.

;)

[Nobody]

Alan, with everything, there is a mix of advantage & disadvantage. Warps, while i have barely used one, gives the player the sight over the top, lack of a blimp on top(for possible hopper hits) & whatever else a warp player likes. They may be heavier in shear mass, but not unblanaced.

[capt spank]

warp feeds sorta made sense back then. guns used to be soooooo tall. i remember i had a bushmaster and used a 10 inch barrel. with the hopper and drop forward, my gun was taller than longer :D

[cockerpunk]

the warp feed was a generation 1 design, it certainly had its flaws, and was going against gen 3 or 4 hoppers (gravity, agitated, first gen force feed ...).

would have been great to see what the warp feed would have turned into had it had a gen 3 or 4.

[Nobody]

the warp feed was a generation 1 design, it certainly had its flaws, and was going against gen 3 or 4 hoppers (gravity, agitated, first gen force feed ...).

would have been great to see what the warp feed would have turned into had it had a gen 3 or 4.

Here you go, look at what people are doing with Prophecies and Halos and other forcefeed hoppers, modding them to feed on the side, without the need or use of a secondary hopper to feed the first.

There are some in this very forum. No need for a google search. See what happens when you leave the sanctity of your cave and join the real world?

[zondo]

I like the direction that the Empire defender went, but it looks like it actually made the gun longer.

Another plus to the warp is that you don't have to switch hands to snap shoot.

[going_home]

1) hopper hits

2) hopper blocking vision

Two of the main points proponents of side hoppers and warp feeds name as reasons for their version.

Innovation is the best point no doubt, they are interesting to see on the field.

Whatever works best for you personally, the most fun, is a good thing.

I just never had a problem looking thru the hopper ignoring it, and I find the percentage of hopper hits I've gotten is minuscule.

But whatever works go for it.

;)

[Fred]

Personally my favorite aspect is not needing to change hands to shoot off my left side. Rotation ftw!

[cockerpunk]

Here you go, look at what people are doing with Prophecies and Halos and other forcefeed hoppers, modding them to feed on the side, without the need or use of a secondary hopper to feed the first.

There are some in this very forum. No need for a google search. See what happens when you leave the sanctity of your cave and join the real world?

i am well aware of people doing this. its a perfect example of exactly what im talking about, development along these lines. i think the defender marks to return of manufactures to this idea, and while i have issues with the defender, and using halos and prophs for this purpose, its certainly exciting to see. the box mag on the DAM is another such example. they are basically gen2 of this idea, and note they are significantly better operating than the warp feed ...

are you just going to follow me around and be a jerk about everything, all the time?

[dboggs79]

Y'all need a hobby!

[Dayspring]

The two of you knock it off or you both get to sit in the corner for a couple days.

I'm not going to let this get out of hand again.

[cockerpunk]

The two of you knock it off or you both get to sit in the corner for a couple days.

I'm not going to let this get out of hand again.

sorry, i can't do anything about folks who hate me posting dumb things in response to my posts.

wish i could, really do wish i could. but i can only control my own actions.

[Dayspring]

sorry, i can't do anything about folks who hate me posting dumb things in response to my posts.

wish i could, really do wish i could. but i can only control my own actions.


It takes 2 to make an argument - sometimes the best thing to do is just walk away.

[BigEvil]

I think he was daring you to ban him Nick. :)

*edit to stay on topic:


Warp feeds are awesome. To quote my good pal Beemer;

"I can't play with a blimp on the top"



TRUTH

[Flatliner333]

Cant we talk about something with far less controversy...like say the Dallas / Green Bay game :tard:

[dboggs79]

Cant we talk about something with far less controversy...like say the Dallas / Green Bay game :tard:

I was thinking more of the chicken/egg debate.

[Flatliner333]

I'm gunna rock my Warp on the Classic RT at Tunaball just for Beemer...

[AGD]

Cockerpunk hit it right on the head. It was a first gen design up against more refined products. We did mock up a photoshop 2nd gen and I showed a pic on AO. The loader cupped around the front of the tank and reg so it was centered and low. Made the whole tank assembly bullet like. I can't find the pic in my archive but maybe someone has it somewhere.

AGD

[going_home]

Cockerpunk hit it right on the head. It was a first gen design up against more refined products. We did mock up a photoshop 2nd gen and I showed a pic on AO. The loader cupped around the front of the tank and reg so it was centered and low. Made the whole tank assembly bullet like. I can't find the pic in my archive but maybe someone has it somewhere.

AGD

Tom, are you going to make it to Tunaball this year ?



:confused:

[AGD]

Probably not, you pick the worst time of the year to have it.

AGD

[BigEvil]

Probably not, you pick the worst time of the year to have it.

AGD

:(

We try to schedule it when it is convenient for the most people. There will be more. :)

[Fred]

Time for an open source 3d printed shell that takes Halo guts and sends the ramp/feed up and out...

MAKE IT HAPPEN!

[dboggs79]

Probably not, you pick the worst time of the year to have it.

AGD
I'm bringing dinosaur bones. Sure you won't make it?:stick:

[Flatliner333]

I could bring my Mother in Law...it would be just like Jurassic Park

[dboggs79]

I could bring my Mother in Law...it would be just like Jurassic Park

For enough jerky, since I hear you are the guy for jerky, we won't tell your wife you said that!

[Redic]

I'm bringing dinosaur bones. Sure you won't make it?:stick:

Tuna is no longer sick so he has no reason to come