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cougar20th
03-13-2015, 07:25 AM
So this is a unintentional build. Never really planned on it. Just kind of evolved. Started as getting a nice mech loaner style mag.

This old automag became available to me at a good price. So I have my redneck friend (Jim) ship it to me. Agree to buy it over a year ago, paid a few months ago. Received it this week. Perfect loaner gun.
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc395/Cougar20th/misc/P1010242_zpsud8b7gqg.jpg

Planned on using it the way I got it as a loaner. But while waiting I decided to change the build from a reassemble it and use it as is to a “let the automag Evolve”.
So disassemble the Classic mag,

First the pile is parts to be kept,
Hmmm. What happened here. Not much left.
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc395/Cougar20th/misc/P1010245_zps3jo2c5zr.jpg

Now the pile of parts not needed. Maybe sell most of them, Maybe just keep them.
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc395/Cougar20th/misc/P1010243_zpsip3gmvsx.jpg

So after visiting the BST here on AO,BEO & contacting Tuna I have this pile of parts to use. Some extras just for good measure. Its all Ryan's fault. If he hadn't sold me the CF MM body I wouldn't have needed all the rest of the parts. VER's been in my paintball dresser for years waiting for something to go on.
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc395/Cougar20th/misc/P1010247_zpsu6tafzzv.jpg

Mock up assembly, Damn it forgot the feedneck & detents at home. Knew I was forgetting something.
Trying to decide Dust black or gloss purple. Which ever I will anodize all the aluminum to match if its not already. If black I still need to get a DW CF barrel.
Also need to decide VER or M90.
Still need to make a Titanium sear pin and gather some Titanium or aluminum screws.
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc395/Cougar20th/misc/P1010248_zpsav1kwnmt.jpg

Now that the gun has evolved it has become lighter, leaner, faster & meaner.

First observation. Its light but very back heavy.
The Xvalve weights twice what the M90 does.
The VER weights about 3/4 what the xvalve does. Probably closer to equal with a battery.

As well as the gun getting lighter my wallet did to. Gathered most of the parts without worrying about keeping a tally of cost until the end. Note to self. DON'T ever look at that column in the spreadsheet again.
zondo
03-13-2015, 08:01 AM
I actually really like that purple CF barrel.

Where's the purple X?
cougar20th
03-13-2015, 08:07 AM
I actually really like that purple CF barrel.

Where's the purple X?

Purple X still needs to be assembled & tuned, The black ones ready to go so its in for now.
Syko89
03-13-2015, 09:02 AM
Maybe you do have something I want
Cyco-Dude
03-13-2015, 04:34 PM
lol that is not an evolution, that is you taking the rail and building up a totally different automag. :rolleyes:
knownothingmags
03-13-2015, 05:36 PM
looks freakin sweet man.
Cyco-Dude
03-13-2015, 05:55 PM
looks freakin sweet man.
thing has got to be uber-lightweight, too!
cougar20th
03-13-2015, 06:11 PM
thing has got to be uber-lightweight, too!

Thats the goal of the project at this point. It surprised the guys at the local shop how light a mag can be.
Syko89
03-13-2015, 06:47 PM
Thats the goal of the project at this point. It surprised the guys at the local shop how light a mag can be.

What local shop
cougar20th
03-13-2015, 07:12 PM
What local shop

Paintball Wizard I Tewksbury MA. I grew up down there and its 3 minutes from my work. I still consider it my local shop.
I wont deal with the shop in Nashua even if its closer to home.
OPBN
03-14-2015, 01:33 AM
I did a similiar mock up a few years back with one of Warped Mephistos CF bodies, Ver and Ultralight rail. IIRC I was able to ce in at 1.45 total weight including a barrel. I'll have to dig up the thread to confirm but it took control not to hunt for another VER to permanently build it up that way..... Think after I added up the prices I was well over $1000. Of course having $650 in a valve and frame doesn't help...
cougar20th
03-14-2015, 09:03 AM
I did a similiar mock up a few years back with one of Warped Mephistos CF bodies, Ver and Ultralight rail. IIRC I was able to ce in at 1.45 total weight including a barrel. I'll have to dig up the thread to confirm but it took control not to hunt for another VER to permanently build it up that way..... Think after I added up the prices I was well over $1000. Of course having $650 in a valve and frame doesn't help...

I think I remember that build. Capped stainless valve if I remember correctly.
Mole1119
03-14-2015, 11:57 AM
That's looking amazing!
I ended up using a aluminum barrel and forgrip to try and balance out the weight on my CF Body

PS you should def use the M90 and let the VER go :stick:
OPBN
03-14-2015, 01:25 PM
I think I remember that build. Capped stainless valve if I remember correctly.

No was actually an X. I basically took the CF frame off of what was built up as an Ultralight Mag build and out the VER on it. I'll root around for the pics. Most of the marker excepting the VER, which is permanently on my MM2K9, and the X Valve got sold off to fund other stuff.
cougar20th
03-16-2015, 02:22 PM
That's looking amazing!
I ended up using a aluminum barrel and forgrip to try and balance out the weight on my CF Body

PS you should def use the M90 and let the VER go :stick:

Only way that would happen is if the complete gun was sold. Ive been holding onto the new VER for to long (5ish years I believe).
cougar20th
03-18-2015, 07:18 AM
http://i1209.photobucket.com/albums/cc395/Cougar20th/My%20PB%20Guns/P1010256_zpsy96qugzn.jpg

Im really liking the Black Xvalve more. Probably will go with that get a Deadlywind barrel and put the purple valve and barrel away for another project.
Dayspring
03-18-2015, 07:37 AM
I dunno - I kinda think the purple adds a nice bit of contrast.
Syko89
03-18-2015, 07:51 AM
I like the purple valve but not the barrel but the color combo with valve, asa, forgrip top and bottom, the part that the feedneck screws into and the clamp ring done in purple would break it up nicely.
Mole1119
03-20-2015, 11:25 AM
I am fan of the black and carbon. Its looking really good, looking forward to seeing it finished.
If i were going to go purple I would:

Black Rail
Black "Feedneck mount" - (easier resale if needed and more flexible if you want to change it up)
Black Feedneck, Purple feedneck ring
Purple Trigger
Purple Aluminum Barrel Back, CF tip
Leave fore grip as is, or use different fore grip black asa purple grip

Kind of the reverse of what I did on my Mini M90

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knownothingmags
03-20-2015, 11:48 AM
cougar- I think it needs one of my purple drop kick type wedges :cheers: