Planning to make these and want to gauge Interest. . . . .Warp-less Hopper bracket!

[Loguzzzzzz]

As the title says, I am planning to make these and want to gauge interest to determine my run size.

This is a bracket for the warp-less hopper modification. This is ambidextrous so warp left or right will work

Concept Drawing. . . .

http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w326/jloguzzo/Brackets/SpeedFeedBracket_zpspraodl7o.jpg

Actual prototype:

http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w326/jloguzzo/Brackets/20150309_075605_zpsjrrz5v9c.jpg

On the gun:

http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w326/jloguzzo/Brackets/20150309_203743_zps3mgwpkzd.jpg

http://i520.photobucket.com/albums/w326/jloguzzo/Brackets/20150309_203806_zpsuebg4o9i.jpg

[BigEvil]

Nice, about damn time!

[blamtro]

count me in!

[wetwrks]

That is sweet. I would be interested in one or two

[blamtro]

maybe one consideration, would it be possible to have the arm a bit thicker to prevent it from bending?

[Loguzzzzzz]

It will be. This was the first prototype. I have the second one which was built but not photographed. It will be the same thickness as the one shown in the concept drawing.

[Loguzzzzzz]

Nice, about damn time!

Hey what can I say. . . . .I've been busy. . . :rolleyes:

[BigEvil]

Hey what can I say. . . . .I've been busy. . . :rolleyes:

Me too man. Ive been gold mining in Alaska

[vintage]

put me down for one at least. what are you using on the bottom of the loader?

[blamtro]

Another thought on these is to mill the bracket to accept an O-ring on both sides for those that use the sleeper mod with the ASA to feed the LPR in the gripframe.

[going_home]

I vote for the blue tape.

;)

[Nobody]

You need a name for it. Skeleton hand, hand of god, dog bone, the Target rail, Scepter rail; something.

[going_home]

You need a name for it. Skeleton hand, hand of god, dog bone, the Target rail, Scepter rail; something.

Start slow and tape(r) off.....



;)

[zondo]

Yes, me please!

I'll get around to making one eventually.

[knownothingmags]

cool,

I just got done making one of my own.
stupid thing is I don't have warpless setup.

this is awesome to see.

[Tunaman]

What loaders work with this? Can a Rotor be made to work with this? I need one. I have a Rotor.

[Nobody]

Hey can these be Dirge modded?

[Syko89]

Nice start. One thing to consider is the angle and/or length will change depending on the grip frame used "45, 90, y, and z"

[Syko89]

What loaders work with this? Can a Rotor be made to work with this? I need one. I have a Rotor.

Work in progress

[OPBN]

As always....depending on price....

[BigEvil]

What loaders work with this? Can a Rotor be made to work with this? I need one. I have a Rotor.

Probably, but no matter what loader you use it will have to be modded.

[Syko89]

Probably, but no matter what loader you use it will have to be modded.

You can feed a rotor out the bottom with a hose and it will feed up but it won't continue to feed due to how the loader is triggered. I think it is a tension system.

[Loguzzzzzz]

put me down for one at least. what are you using on the bottom of the loader?That is just a PVC plug to plug the hole to keep dirt and water/paint out.

[Tunaman]

So what is the best loader to use? Halo?

[Syko89]

So what is the best loader to use? Halo?

Halo b2 or halo too are the most popular atm. I have only used halo too for all of mine but have used a spring clutch out of a b2. I saw no noticeable difference between the solid drive wheel and on with a clutch setup.

[Patron God of Pirates]

Get somebody to 3D print the internal portion of the hopper mod and sell it as a package and I'm in. I've already butchered two HALO's trying this myself. lol.

[BigEvil]

Get somebody to 3D print the internal portion of the hopper mod and sell it as a package and I'm in. I've already butchered two HALO's trying this myself. lol.

I was thinking this too. I should talk to Cougar20th and KNMs about it :)

[Pudgey51]

Anybody got the how-to on how to do the mod? Used the search function but couldn't find anything. I'm guessing it run a hose from the tray back up thru the hopper but still I'm sure there's something more to it...

[Loguzzzzzz]

So what is the best loader to use? Halo?
I am using a Halo with a Reloader B board that uses sound activation since the eye is removed in the modification process.

[Loguzzzzzz]

Anybody got the how-to on how to do the mod? Used the search function but couldn't find anything. I'm guessing it run a hose from the tray back up thru the hopper but still I'm sure there's something more to it...Here is a link to he MCB thread that I used when I modded mine.
Warp-less warp feed (http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/custom-projects-custom-questions/172569-custom-halo-too-hose-fed-angel-a4-fly.html)

[Pudgey51]

Here is a link to he MCB thread that I used when I modded mine.
Warp-less warp feed (http://www.mcarterbrown.com/forums/custom-projects-custom-questions/172569-custom-halo-too-hose-fed-angel-a4-fly.html)

Thank you!

[Syko89]

I need to make another one so maybe I can do some video of it

[livebrando]

this isn't just interest- I WILL buy one

[Fred]

I was just looking at my Prophecy the other day thinking... you know you could 3d print some drop in parts to make this warpless...

[knownothingmags]

I was thinking this too. I should talk to Cougar20th and KNMs about it :)

no problem just let me know. :dance:

[Chronobreak]

In for 2

[blamtro]

Loguzzzzzz, any thoughts on this?


Another thought on these is to mill the bracket to accept an O-ring on both sides for those that use the sleeper mod with the ASA to feed the LPR in the gripframe.

[Loguzzzzzz]

Another thought on these is to mill the bracket to accept an O-ring on both sides for those that use the sleeper mod with the ASA to feed the LPR in the gripframe.
I have many thoughts. ;)

Every hole costs money so why impose everyone with the cost of a hole which only a few will use. If this needs to be done the modification can be done after the fact. I can offer it as a service or the purchaser can do it themselves.

[bowcycle]

I want one

[SummaryJudgement]

While I don't plan on getting one (not a warp fan), I will say this:

I have met and played with Loguzzzz on several occasions (when living in Cali). I have bought stuff with him as well (pneu mag stuff). He has always been stand-up, honest, a guy's guy, and helpful beyond the actual cost of the experience. I would trust Loguzzzz with a pre-order cost or a quote for a service or product provided.

In the trend of AOers continuing the 'Mag experience/lifestyle, Loguzzzz is a guy I wouldn't hesitate doing business with.....Just my input.....God Bless AOers!

[Justus]

I can't say this has been a long time coming, because efforts have been made in the past to do it (Luke, for one). But for the life of me I can't figure out why this hopper mod and mount haven't taken off with much more force over the past couple years.

Check the dates on those "warpless" threads and you'll see that the hopper mods were done a LONG time ago. I've got a modded Halo Too, and several more plus a Z2 ready for modding. 3D printed warpless modification parts have been discussed in the past too, but nobody pulls the trigger.

I can say that if someone does make 3D printed parts to make the mod easier, I would certainly be interested. And I'll also be interested in a custom manufactured bracket depending on price. The price has to be justifiable though, and I think that's been a hang-up. I can get a piece of 2" wide, 1/8" thick aluminum stock (and have one, actually) very cheaply from the hardware store, to cut and drill and make my own serviceable bracket. A custom milled job is certainly a heckuva lot nicer, but on a part like that function is function.

Not trying to be a wet blanket. I'm actually stoked that more people are taking notice of these ideas and moving them forward.

[Loguzzzzzz]

I can appreciate your opinions but most here would rather have function follow form. Just take a look at the MOTM threads, definitely FORM! When you have have both it is win/win.
I understand that the price is the issue and if you have ever had anything machined then you know that it is not cheap.
Based on my quotes the price for un-anodized raw parts is likely to be in the $35 range without shipping.

[Pump&Run]

I'm down for 1.

[Swiss Cheeze]

Pretty cool. I would be down for one.

[going_home]

I can't say this has been a long time coming, because efforts have been made in the past to do it (Luke, for one). But for the life of me I can't figure out why this hopper mod and mount haven't taken off with much more force over the past couple years.

Probably because 99 percent of players are happy with a loader on the top of the gun.....

Not to rain on the parade or anything....just saying.

;)

[vintage]

Probably because 99 percent of players are happy with a loader on the top of the gun.....

Not to rain on the parade or anything....just saying.

;)

because they are uneducated

[RT Lover]

depending on price im in

[going_home]

because they are uneducated

More likely its because the loader on top isnt a distraction, doesnt interfere with their game.

They just look right thru it.

Now back to the OP's subject.

[Nickless Cage]

I might also be interested, especially if someone is taking care of the drop in parts for the loader mod

[Patron God of Pirates]

Hopper off the top allows you to play a style that is otherwise a cardinal sin, over the top of the bunker. Being able to do that without the additional weight and space of a warp is awesome.

I'd go $100 for the bracket with drop in mod.

[zondo]

Loguzzz... are you bringing a sample out to TB?

[Zone Drifter]

I just wrote a thread on this but realized someone was way ahead of me, lol.

I am completely up for getting one of these!

[wetwrks]

That is sweet. I would be interested in one or two

Hmm...maby more like 4 or 5 based on looking at current projects....all depending on price.

Any updates?

[Loguzzzzzz]

May is a very busy month for me, rarely home and always seem to send a lot of money. Once I get back and recover from all the time away from home and get some cash saved up my plan is to begin production. Just need to contact the machinist and check his schedule too.

[Tunaman]

count me in for a couple John

[sjrtk]

I'm in for one. working on the loader now actually.

[Pump&Run]

How is this project coming along?

[Loguzzzzzz]

Just waiting for some money to come in so I can give the machinist the go ahead.

[wetwrks]

:bounce:

Any updates?

[BigEvil]

http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s338/BigEvilOnline/My%20markers/PB%20tech/20150710_054648_zpsbw4gsazn.jpg (http://s509.photobucket.com/user/BigEvilOnline/media/My%20markers/PB%20tech/20150710_054648_zpsbw4gsazn.jpg.html)

:D

[Loguzzzzzz]

Yes, I am planning to begin very soon. Once I do I will post it.

[blamtro]

Boner!

[Syko89]

Did this ever happen

[Loguzzzzzz]

I have one more machinist to meet with...
Unfortunately I have run into LIFE again and it has stalled me a little they could be about a month away though.

[Justus]

Status update? Any way to make this bracket a little more adjustable in length and angle? The AGD warp bracket just has screw holes that are oval shaped, so you can tweak it forward or backward a little bit. And on the length, it looks like you're using a 45* elbow out of your Mag, but lots of people will be wanting to keep using their 90* elbows (AGD, PTP or Qloader) which will make them want the loader sitting tighter to the gun.

[Loguzzzzzz]

I am planning to meet with the machinist in a day or so to schedule it.

[bowcycle]

I am planning to meet with the machinist in a day or so to schedule it.

hooray. I'm still in.

[bowcycle]

I am planning to meet with the machinist in a day or so to schedule it.

hooray. I'm still in.

[Loguzzzzzz]

In production. . . . .

[RT Lover]

Im still interested, was a price ever said?

[Loguzzzzzz]

The parts are done, I am planning to pick them up in the next day or so. Once I do I will post some pictures.

[bowcycle]

sweet! I was actually just about to message you to see how these were going.
Planning to show off a bit at OK-DDay.

[BigEvil]

The parts are done, I am planning to pick them up in the next day or so. Once I do I will post some pictures.

I hope no one gets stoned and decides to either rip these off or tell everyone how to make them :D LMAO.

[cougar20th]

I hope no one gets stoned and decides to either rip these off or tell everyone how to make them :D LMAO.

I could do both what do you want to know?

[Justus]

The parts are done, I am planning to pick them up in the next day or so. Once I do I will post some pictures.

Awesome, I'm just so happy these are coming to fruition finally.

[going_home]

fruition

The word of the day.


;)

[luke]

I could do both what do you want to know?

:) Dont you mean all three. :dance:

[cougar20th]

:) Dont you mean all three. :dance:

Nope, only 2,

Dont smoke, rarely drink.

[vintage]

The parts are done, I am planning to pick them up in the next day or so. Once I do I will post some pictures.

any chance of getting one at Tunaball

[Nobody]

Just want to make sure that these have the Dirge mod andyor Dirge approved. Cause that is all that matters ;)

[BigEvil]

Just want to make sure that these have the Dirge mod andyor Dirge approved. Cause that is all that matters ;)

^QFT


All hail the Dirge

[Justus]

Do the mounting holes on these allow for any adjustment forward and backward, like the original warp bracket? Or is this strictly a fixed-position bracket? Depending on what kind of warpless hopper you use, it may make a difference I think...

[Loguzzzzzz]

any chance of getting one at TunaballYes, My plan was to have them done by then to bring some.

[Loguzzzzzz]

Do the mounting holes on these allow for any adjustment forward and backward, like the original warp bracket? Or is this strictly a fixed-position bracket? Depending on what kind of warpless hopper you use, it may make a difference I think...They say a picture is worth a thousand word . . . . . here is 4K worth!

92592 92595 92593

92594

[BigEvil]

Niccccccccccccccccccccccce

[knownothingmags]

those came out really nice.
good stuff man.

[Loguzzzzzz]

just want to make sure that these have the dirge mod andyor dirge approved. Cause that is all that matters ;)
%#@&! You



^qft


all hail the dirge
. . . . and you too!

[bowcycle]

now take my money

[BigEvil]

%#@&! You



. . . . and you too!

But do they have the Dirge-mod seal of approval???

[Loguzzzzzz]

But do they have the Dirge-mod seal of approval???NOPE! I'm a RENEGADE!!!
Tread Lightly!
;)

[BigEvil]

http://i509.photobucket.com/albums/s338/BigEvilOnline/Deletes%20sig_zpsqaktzn1o.jpg (http://s509.photobucket.com/user/BigEvilOnline/media/Deletes%20sig_zpsqaktzn1o.jpg.html)

[Justus]

Those look great! Are you having them anodized, or shipping as-is? How do we order?

Edit: Saw the dealer thread. PM'd. Thanks!

[Nobody]

Listen up Billy Mays... My woman with be with me and she can throw me under the bus faster than the new Grecian formal can get rid of the greys. You can't do anything to me, that she can't ;)

See you in a week old man :D