Lil' stumpy

[GoatBoy]

Alright let's not pollute the other thread any further.

Say hello to Lil' Stumpy.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-GWxQx6hxpbI/VmUbtNxPMPI/AAAAAAAAIPs/47U1Bwm-jew/s640-Ic42/20151206_232651.jpg

Lil' Stumpy enjoys sports, the outdoors, or just lounging around the house. And he's available in Festive Red this holiday season!

[going_home]

So how do you like playing with first strikes ?

[GoatBoy]

So how do you like playing with first strikes ?

Fun, but expensive and somewhat unfair against typical rec fare.

Anyways, Lil' Stumpy got a sibling last night...

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-G0-6Ae715Bg/VmXJ7b4tc9I/AAAAAAAAIQE/_hqg3Oo6W7k/s512-Ic42/20151207_095006.jpg

I would never have imagined that my printer, at default settings, could actually produce functioning autococker threads, but I was wrong. Still not the right material, but given the cost, it's practically a disposable part.

[knownothingmags]

Still not the right material, but given the cost, it's practically a disposable part.

THE Cost is awesome isn't it.
especially with you win the money at a casino to pay for your printer. :D

[Menace_AO]

Wha-wha-wha-wha-what kinda detents ya runnin' there, fella? :confused: :cool:

[captian pinky]

looks like tippmann

[GoatBoy]

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-QRy0smOOHzA/VmaFnOAHlvI/AAAAAAAAIRM/4uQQxlPuZ-g/s720-Ic42/20151208_005310.jpg

Lil' Stumpy didn't understand the complexities of the Tippmann detent, and he didn't feel the need to be beholden to anybody else's crappy detents anymore, so he got new detents.

Lil' Stumpy is pleased so far with the new detents.

[going_home]

I dont see it.....

is it small ?



:confused:

[GoatBoy]

I dont see it.....

is it small ?


THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID

It's in the first pic; the black thing. Looks kinda like this:

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-VdBnfmehMk4/VmbyOne3UrI/AAAAAAAAIRs/d332tMBXpm0/s447-Ic42/stumpy_finger.png

Lil' Stumpy says there's space to put 7 of them in there to prevent doublefeeds, but I think that's a little excessive. I'm trying to bargain him down to 2.

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-aWgitXrGswU/VmbyP6J8OtI/AAAAAAAAIR0/so3aesKOaLM/s619-Ic42/stumpy_special_ed.png

[knownothingmags]

:eek:ooooooh fits like a glove cradling balls

[Menace_AO]

I completely hate Lil' Stumpy owing to his overabundance of supreme coolness.

[knownothingmags]

its pretty neat having time to makes stuff.
that is something im really having trouble finding.

next material I want to see this part in is PEEK. :D

[Menace_AO]

next material I want to see this part in is PEEK. :D

PEEK is nice, but it's mighty pricey.

[GoatBoy]

Yeah, gotta find ways to squeeze in time. Being able to do meaningful CAD work on the tablet is a huge boost -- I modified detents and the adapter while waiting for lunch today. My printer is to the point where I can just come home and press "print" as long as I don't have to swap filament.


PEEK would be awesome, but that filament is stupid expensive at this time. Hell even the pellets are expensive.

Like one of these adapters would be ~$10 for plastic alone at current prices. (Compared to ~$0.25 at PLA prices.)




That said... uh... if you ever get to the point where you can print PEEK, even at current prices, I wouldn't mind having a one-off...

[knownothingmags]

PEEK is nice, but it's mighty pricey.

yes it is :D lol
I have a bunch of it at my buddies place.
doesn't mean it didn't cost a lot to buy. lol I should say cost him

[GoatBoy]

NEVER EVER DOUBLEFEED, EVER AGAIN

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-rROV2VfnRsw/Vmei9rAsz4I/AAAAAAAAISY/9eKaHNeUgpo/s800-Ic42/20151208_214014.jpg

So uh... this started as a joke but... I think this might actually be useful. If I want to vary detent performance, I can go from 1 detent all the way to 7, all in the same adapter...

[knownothingmags]

that's pretty cool
whats the material?

[blackdeath1k]

I'm curious how that holds up. And works. Color me intrigued.

[GoatBoy]

Just normal PLA for the adapter and Ninjaflex for the detent. I am a simple man of simple means.

Manually cycling it, it works just fine, except it seems the recovery time for the rubber isn't as fast as a spring detent. Might not matter since it has to wait for the bolt to clear all the way before a new ball can even load in.

I think everything else, including durability, will pan out.

Will need to field test...

[knownothingmags]

Just normal PLA for the adapter and Ninjaflex for the detent. I am a simple man of simple means.

Manually cycling it, it works just fine, except it seems the recovery time for the rubber isn't as fast as a spring detent. Might not matter since it has to wait for the bolt to clear all the way before a new ball can even load in.

I think everything else, including durability, will pan out.

Will need to field test...

yeah for sure.
and the consume-ability of it being printed really doesn't need you to make it of a better material.
pla should be a great test for the field.
oh and as you know pla is super easy to print.

[blackdeath1k]

You guys have me wanting to buy a printer.

[GoatBoy]

Well, it routinely hits 100F+ in the shade where I am, and that may wind up softening up the PLA. Plus you know car temps reach into the 140F's.

Of course, at current prices, I'd literally have to destroy 40 PLA adapters before a PEEK one would be cost-effective. (I still want one though!)

What would really be awesome is if fields kept a 3d printer on-hand at the field for printing up (and selling) field replacements on demand, particularly for dinky stupid things like detents.

They don't have to be perfect, and they don't have to last forever... they just need to be close enough to get you through the day. Field makes some extra cheddar, customer gets to continue playing (which in turn means the field makes some more cheddar again).

And it's not like printers for such things are expensive; mine was only $400, came pre-assembled, and handles flexible filament out of the box. And they're constantly getting cheaper.

In fact, now that I think about it... if I ever upgrade or get a second printer, maybe that's where this one will go.

But really, the barrier isn't the printer anymore. The other barrier used to be software, but now all of that is free. (Clearly I am too cheap to shell out for any of that.) And the free stuff is pretty damn good.

The barrier is just the brainpower to drive the tools now.

And you know, if manufacturers would stop mis-designing stupidly complicated things, that'd be OK too.

[Pghp8ntballer]

Ok, can someone enlighten me here? I have been following this thread but what exactly is lil' stumpy? I see it is for first strikes, but for what? Is this a first strike cocker threaded adapter for an automag similar to Doc's adapters?

[Menace_AO]

To answer briefly,

Lil' Stumpy is for everyone, and everyone is for Lil' Stumpy.

Lil' Stumpy is designed for every kind of mag (except those already having cocker threads), and for every kind of paint (except the non gelatin-encapsulated variety).

Lil' Stumpy is safe and easy to use.

Lil' Stumpy comes with its own lifetime warranty (i.e., its own lifetime, i.e., as long as it functions properly, after which it is no longer under warranty)

Lil' Stumpy can be traded with friends.

Lil' Stumpy is machine-washable.

Lil' Stumpy is dishwasher-safe.

Lil' Stumpy is hypoallergenic.

Lil' Stumpy doubles as currency in some first-world countries.

Lil' Stumpy can be used as a personal flotation device (for persons with VLM [very low mass])

Lil' Stumpy has not been tested on animals.

Lil' Stumpy will be tested on unwilling human subjects.

Lil' Stumpy is FDA-approved, pending clinical trials.

Lil' Stumpy contains no trans fats.

Lil' Stumpy is consistent with a low-carb diet.

Lil' Stumpy is proudly made in the USA.

[going_home]

Ok, can someone enlighten me here? I have been following this thread but what exactly is lil' stumpy? I see it is for first strikes, but for what? Is this a first strike cocker threaded adapter for an automag similar to Doc's adapters?



On the path to enlightenment grasshoppa you must ......


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[blackdeath1k]

⬆⬆⬆. I'm saving that one for a later date with my wife. It will come In handy.

[GoatBoy]

Technically, Lil Stumpy was just the first test piece to house the new system.

Anyways, for those not up to speed, this is pretty much like Docs mag to cocker adapter.

I think I'm going to call the new adapter “The Cold Fusion”, with Dual Sphincter™ Technology.

I ran about 200 rounds through the Bunamag with three Adjustable Sphincter Detents installed against a Rip Clip at the highest settings. No double feeds; also tilted the gun down and shook it a bunch. Paint size was about .685.

Recovery time seemed sufficient, zero observable wear on the detents, and I still had space for 4 more to be installed.


https://youtu.be/mZ1eswVzfWU

[river031403]

Very nice setup!! I need somebody to print a 3/8" tail to fit over my ion body so I can run my armson sight off the right side of the body
http://i1083.photobucket.com/albums/j381/river031403/08965D90-7B60-480B-851E-58DBA2656EE1_zpslz0q2orl.jpg (http://s1083.photobucket.com/user/river031403/media/08965D90-7B60-480B-851E-58DBA2656EE1_zpslz0q2orl.jpg.html)

[knownothingmags]

new or old style rip clip?

and that pic rail on top what is that off of , and how is it attached?

you gave me so many ideas.

this will be fun this summer.

if I can go to tunaball I'm going to try to make as many parts as possible and bring them with me.

[GoatBoy]

Very nice setup!! I need somebody to print a 3/8" tail to fit over my ion body so I can run my armson sight off the right side of the body


I like what you did with that Mini reg; been planning something similar for a pump gun too. How are you getting the air? Through the top with an adapter?

The 3/8" rails are kinda small; not sure if I would trust those to be 3d printed (Picatinny is nice and large). I think the rail part proper should probably be metal, but the rest of the mating adapter could be 3d printed. I am not familiar with Ions at all though.

I.e. get some of these:

http://www.airsoldier.com/mm5/merchant.mvc?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=AOS&Product_Code=CCI-SIGHTRAIL&Category_Code=CCIPHANTOM

and mate them to your body.



new or old style rip clip?

and that pic rail on top what is that off of , and how is it attached?


Uhm... there are different Rip Clips? I'm thinking this might be a "newer" model. I only use it for testing or when the spring feed might be too exposed to elements.

Top rail is from an Empire Trracer. Good ol' fashioned epoxied that sucker right onto the steel body; couldn't find any other way to really attach it. Need someone to put weld nuts on the top of my body and all my crap will have a nice hard mountpoint.

[knownothingmags]

this pretty freaking cool.
you are getting me fired up now, I really can wait till I have my stuff up and running.

[zondo]

Uhm... there are different Rip Clips? I'm thinking this might be a "newer" model. I only use it for testing or when the spring feed might be too exposed to elements.

Top rail is from an Empire Trracer. Good ol' fashioned epoxied that sucker right onto the steel body; couldn't find any other way to really attach it. Need someone to put weld nuts on the top of my body and all my crap will have a nice hard mountpoint.

Looks like the older model because the loader would just sit on top there (2 pieces). The newer model has everything in one package.


https://youtu.be/eGh2sa5DY58

Huh... I just noticed that your lid is where the hopper would insert. I like what you're doing here with the barrel adapter and the mag clamp. Nice!

[vintage]

new or old style rip clip?

and that pic rail on top what is that off of , and how is it attached?

you gave me so many ideas.

this will be fun this summer.

if I can go to tunaball I'm going to try to make as many parts as possible and bring them with me.

there is no if, there is only come or stay home.

[knownothingmags]

there is no if, there is only come or stay home.

could print people pneumag triggers on the spot.
cant offer triggers for mechanical mags, they would break quickly

[luke]

https://youtu.be/eGh2sa5DY58

Anyone use these, feedback on reliability, feed rates?

[zondo]

could print people pneumag triggers on the spot.
cant offer triggers for mechanical mags, they would break quickly

BigEvil should be doing a game this summer. But that would be fun to have you at the cabins with everyone drinking and eating while printing parts.

I will not be there, sadly...


Anyone use these, feedback on reliability, feed rates?

It would be awesome if they were Halo guts...

[GoatBoy]

Looks like the older model because the loader would just sit on top there (2 pieces). The newer model has everything in one package.

Huh... I just noticed that your lid is where the hopper would insert. I like what you're doing here with the barrel adapter and the mag clamp. Nice!

O snap ur rite. They don't let me out much so I didn't know there was a newer, newer model. There was an old-old rip clip, then the rip clip that I have, and now that one.

That sucks that you can't tac cap the newer model.


could print people pneumag triggers on the spot.
cant offer triggers for mechanical mags, they would break quickly

Uh actually... I've been running a 3d printed trigger in my mech mag for a few years now... granted it's the SLS nylon stuff. But it's holding up just fine.

[knownothingmags]

Uh actually... I've been running a 3d printed trigger in my mech mag for a few years now... granted it's the SLS nylon stuff. But it's holding up just fine.

made my day now I'm making triggers for people :D

[barkingspider]

Anyone use these, feedback on reliability, feed rates?

I have one on a TM7 with the RF chip (older version). I have enjoyed it over the years and have had no problems with feed issue with the RF chip. Without the RF chip I would think the sound activation would not be a problem with the mag. As far as specs of rate of fire, etc....I would refer to the manual for that. I do not recall of the top of my mind.

[Pudgey51]

Love the idea of the rip clip on a mag, wish it would fit on the other side. Always kind of bothered me that tippmann and BT put their feeds on the right side of the marker when the majority of the human race is right handed. If you pop out the right side of a bunker(as most are inclined to do) the hopper will be out of the bunker before the barrel making you a target...

Just an observation, still love the idea!!

[GoatBoy]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72FQW7Ro1ek

So I got my hands on some o' dat PETG filament to try out, and actually successfully printed an adapter on my Play with it. Yes, a successful print on a cold bed with just kapton and glue stick.

I'm actually pretty happy with the part; it's not as stiff as PLA, but not as fragile either, at nearly the same cost. And since this doesn't need to be that stiff, that winds up being a 'win'.

The problem is two of the words in "PETG" are "polyethylene" and "glycol".

Which uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh should sound familiar to some of you. Might need some research...

[Spider-TW]

The problem is two of the words in "PETG" are "polyethylene" and "glycol".

Which uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh should sound familiar to some of you. Might need some research...

Dr. Pepper?

[going_home]

Dr. Pepper?


https://youtu.be/0-N4BmABoSQ

[Spider-TW]

https://youtu.be/0-N4BmABoSQ

Oh, oh, sorry. What is Dr. Pepper?

[GoatBoy]

Oh, oh, sorry. What is Dr. Pepper?

What the... oh way to ruin Dr. Pepper for me...

[going_home]

What the... oh way to ruin Dr. Pepper for me...



Its ok, it was already ruined.


Coke with a hint of bath soap.......