AGD's SandFX series. Coming soon. Anodizing Artwork Courtesy of FX Anodizing.

[swe_crazy]

https://www.facebook.com/airgundesignsusa/

[Nobody]

Can you get copies of the announcement for those of us that aren't on Facebook?

[cougar20th]

Nice,

Ego style feedneck. Means AGD must be making a adapter from the ULE threads to Ego/Empire?

[luke]

Nice,

Ego style feedneck. Means AGD must be making a adapter from the ULE threads to Ego/Empire?

Umm, actually no. He plans on using it as is and loc-titing it in place. Bad idea. I tried pointing out the fact that the threads were wrong but people (Not just him) insist there isn't a problem. Not something TK would do that's for sure and definitely not the quality we come to expect from AGD.

[Tunaman]

Umm, actually no. He plans on using it as is and loc-titing it in place. Bad idea. I tried pointing out the fact that the threads were wrong but people (Not just him) insist there isn't a problem. Not something TK would do that's for sure and definitely not the quality we come to expect from AGD.
There is no way that they would use the wrong stuff. Dave would not allow it.

[swe_crazy]

Airgun Designs USA:

So the post does say "coming soon" that means all the kinks are not worked out just yet. There are many variables. These works will come complete. Some customization may be available. If you like one and would like to request an adoption. Send emails to sandman@airgun.com. I will ignore requests for individual parts. These works are designed to come complete. When they are near completion, I will follow up with potential hopeful parents or display them here. Hopefully mid year we will have new AGD store site.

[BigEvil]

Can you get copies of the announcement for those of us that aren't on Facebook?

Get with the effen program already. Or have Missy show you :)

[luke]

There is no way that they would use the wrong stuff. Dave would not allow it.

Tuna, he replied directly to me, this is pretty much what he said "We'll loc-tite them in, the threads will likely strip if someone tried to remove the feedneck but why would anyone do that if they purchased this marker"

I deleted my posts because it was coming across as if I was trolling to sell parts which was not my intent.

[GoatBoy]

"Because Quality Always Uses Gobs O' Loctite"

or maybe

"Because Quality Always Why Would Anyone Do That?"

[going_home]

Can you get copies of the announcement for those of us that aren't on Facebook?

You can still see it if you click the link, its a public facebook page.

I refuse to do facebook any more myself so dont let Scott twist your ear.

[blackdeath1k]

You can still see it if you click the link, its a public facebook page.

I refuse to do facebook any more myself so dont let Scott twist your ear.

I have an fb page. But don't hardly ever post.

[captian pinky]

honestly if it were me buying a new mag or even a used mag i would prefer to have the threads correct and would pay to have the peace of mind. If we were talking about a run of the feednecks im sure that someone could get them done under $20 a piece and that would likely be a high number.

[luke]

honestly if it were me buying a new mag or even a used mag i would prefer to have the threads correct and would pay to have the peace of mind. If we were talking about a run of the feednecks im sure that someone could get them done under $20 a piece and that would likely be a high number.

Agreed. I dont see the reasoning in buying these, stripping the anno, re-anodizing and selling them as an AGD part, makes no sense.

[captian pinky]

realistically they could probably get a deal with kee to have just the tops made raw

[luke]

I believe he's changed his mind about using the threaded rings, he's a least reconsidering other options.

[JKR]

I am fairly ignorant on the options available and I may be wrong entirely but I think I read somewhere that AGD was going to use an Inception Designs Angel threaded Empire style feedneck.

[going_home]

I am fairly ignorant on the options available and I may be wrong entirely but I think I read somewhere that AGD was going to use an Inception Designs Angel threaded Empire style feedneck.

Glad to see some new ideas from AGD !

But dont get me started on the Empire feednecks, they are gigantic and flat out ugly, although they do have the lever clamp, and thats a good thing.

The whole threaded part being a separate part from the feedneck is in the opposite direction of innovation.

It was the first thing that got changed on my Axes, but thats just one guys opinion.

[Nobody]

Glad to see some new ideas from AGD !

But dont get me started on the Empire feednecks, they are gigantic and flat out ugly, although they do have the lever clamp, and thats a good thing.

The whole threaded part being a separate part from the feedneck is in the opposite direction of innovation.

It was the first thing that got changed on my Axes, but thats just one guys opinion.

Lol... Its a stronger design, allows for more options(if available), more readily available, and they do it just to get you angry cause its not a nano feedneck which you loved so much.

I see it much like the T-slot for ASAs. Innovation is always looked upon as "why the need to change it", but in this instance, having a stub on the body without a threaded bung is the best, but having a small threaded collar is secondly, IF they do have features that the manority want.

Allen, if you feel so strongly, fund a nano-esque feedneck for your own needs and those that prefer them. put your money where your mouth is. I like the Empire feedneck. I also suspect i will like the Inception Designs feedneck when it is made(the same designer did the Empire one).

I can neither confirm nor deny any talks of AGD & Inception Designs, but prior relationships with Simon, TK, & AGD are there so it is not out of the possibilities.

As for the guns, i like them. Not in the market for one, but the idea that AGD is doing pre-built anno'd guns is a nice move to gain potential capital for a possible new or even updated product.

[going_home]

No need to reinvent the wheel, Violent still makes them :

http://violentseries.com/low-proclampingfeedneckwiththumbwheel-axemini.aspx

They thread right onto a ULE.


;)

[captian pinky]

No need to reinvent the wheel, Violent still makes them :

http://violentseries.com/low-proclampingfeedneckwiththumbwheel-axemini.aspx

They thread right onto a ULE.


;)

doesn't solve the thread issue.

[Nobody]

doesn't solve the thread issue.

Allen like any OCD person needs to say something about the feedneck once a day. ;)

Back to the thread. They look great, definetly a step out from your basic black. They have a sense of style and playability(the locking feedneck is the key). As much as you want an ASA with them having an ASA, it would be a 2nd outsiurced part and though a PE POPS is liked by all, that would increase the price dramatically.

[captian pinky]

i would actually avoid the pops since some people will likely want to run the shp.

[knownothingmags]

i would actually avoid the pops since some people will likely want to run the shp.

I run an shp on my pops

[Tunaman]

I was told they are probably going to use CP feednecks...with Ion threads...which is understood to be the same as angel threads

[BiNumber3]

Just did a quick search, seems the threads aren't quite the same (between Ions and Angel threads), if one or the other is worn enough it'd fit it seems, I haven't tried it myself.

Would be nice if threading were standardized to some extent, at least with this kind of stuff :(

Is it getting that hard to find reliable stockpiles of angel threaded feednecks? Doesn't CCM still have a good amount on stock? Not to mention Luke's new feednecks.

[Tunaman]

Just did a quick search, seems the threads aren't quite the same (between Ions and Angel threads), if one or the other is worn enough it'd fit it seems, I haven't tried it myself.

Would be nice if threading were standardized to some extent, at least with this kind of stuff :(

Is it getting that hard to find reliable stockpiles of angel threaded feednecks? Doesn't CCM still have a good amount on stock? Not to mention Luke's new feednecks.
I dont think CCM makes angel threaded feednecks anymore.

[Tunaman]

I also mentioned to Tim that I think he should be posting it all on THIS Site. We paid alot of money to keep this site up and alot of us dont do Facebook because it sucks!

[BiNumber3]

http://store.chipleymachine.com/angel-feednecks-1/

They're still in stock it seems, not sure how many and if they're still in production though.

And ANS has a number of Custom Products ones, though not sure on the quality.

[cudamelland]

I was told they are probably going to use CP feednecks...with Ion threads...which is understood to be the same as angel threads
This would be a disaster. They don't have enough threads to hang on. I have several ion threaded feednecks that work great, but I had two brand new CP ones that came right off on the same day.
I even asked about it 3 years ago and everyone said they were junk. http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?265001-Problems-with-my-CP-feed-necks

[BiNumber3]

Ah, so the ANS CP feednecks aren't really "Angel Threaded" despite the labelling:(

[TyeStick]

i would actually avoid the pops since some people will likely want to run the shp.

What's the reasoning behind not using a SHP with a POPS?

I use a SHP with my POPS, and I've never encountered any issues.


I run an shp on my pops

+1. Same here.


I was told they are probably going to use CP feednecks...with Ion threads...which is understood to be the same as angel threads

I hope they're not using ION threading with Angel threads. They're close, but certainly not the same. we'll definitely see some cross-threading issues if they stick with ION threads.


Ah, so the ANS CP feednecks aren't really "Angel Threaded" despite the labelling:(

Correct. They're actually ION threaded.

[blackdeath1k]

The pops are recommended for low pressure input for ease of engagement. The v2 regs are also tougher to engage than regular valves due to volume. Even at lower pressures. Overall though I don't think the pops has a technical reason to not use with shp.

[going_home]

No need to reinvent the wheel, Violent still makes them :

http://violentseries.com/low-proclampingfeedneckwiththumbwheel-axemini.aspx

They thread right onto a ULE.


;)



doesn't solve the thread issue.


I was told they are probably going to use CP feednecks...with Ion threads...which is understood to be the same as angel threads

Ion threaded, I'm telling you they thread right onto a ULE.

Sometimes I wonder about this crowd......

[GoatBoy]

Ion threaded, I'm telling you they thread right onto a ULE.

Sometimes I wonder about this crowd......

The only aftermarket feed neck (stump) I have is from Q-Loader. They were also under the impression that Ion was the same as Angel. I can tell you that thing does not fit right... I have to use liberal amounts of Loctite to keep it in there. Yes, I resort to really horrid tactics like glue and loctite because I have no other means available to me. As I've said -- if a manufacturer resorts to crap like that, beware.

What something is called, what something actually is, and what something works/fits with are literally three different things when it comes to paintball. Literally.

You might call a really sloppy Ion thread "angel threaded" and it might also be suitably compatible with a ULE body.

[Jaan]

Tuna, do you expect to be selling any of these as complete markers?

[Tunaman]

Tuna, do you expect to be selling any of these as complete markers?
Yes...but better.

[Nobody]

Ion threaded, I'm telling you they thread right onto a ULE.

Sometimes I wonder about this crowd......

Ion threads are not the same as Angel threads, likewise Ion threads are not the same as ICD threads. Now you might get lucky and the one you have threads in fine, some loose, some not at all. But realistically, they do not work and will only damaged the threads of the body.

[going_home]

No one has said they are the same.

I have a ULE, Tac One, and XMT Classic RT body, Ion threaded feednecks that I own screw on with zero resistance.


:tard:

[1985phenom]

AGD should reach out to Luke for the ULE to PE feedneck adapter or use his feedneck and add a lever...keep the design in the community.

[BiNumber3]

The CP Ion feednecks seem to work for some, and not for others, does that really sound like something you'd want AGD to put their name behind? The mm2k9 worked for some, and not for others, look what happened to PTP in the eyes of the community. I'd personally not want AGD to run into that little issue, especially when it seems they're trying to get back in the market a little.

[captian pinky]

guess no one read where sandman commented on facebook where he is reaching out to people about the threads. im sure he will post something when the time comes, since he knows we are concerned about it.

[wetwrks]

Has stated it will not have valves to match. Sad. Would be so much nicer with them.

[going_home]

Has stated it will not have valves to match. Sad. Would be so much nicer with them.

No problem, black valve, feedneck, barrel, asa.

;)

[wetwrks]

No problem, black valve, feedneck, barrel, asa.

;)

As I stated above...would be so much nicer with them.

[going_home]

As I stated above...would be so much nicer with them.

I am fairly certain Mario can match his own anodizing if you send him the parts you want matched, along with the parts he's already done.


;)

[going_home]

I also mentioned to Tim that I think he should be posting it all on THIS Site. We paid alot of money to keep this site up and alot of us dont do Facebook because it sucks!


I dont think he heard you......

[OneSelfLost]

No problem, black valve, feedneck, barrel, asa.

;)

I think they'd look good like that. Personal opinion though.

[paint magnet]

I still don't understand the fascination with the fugly PE feedneck. Then again I am generally not a fan of anything PE makes, aesthetically speaking (I'm told it's good quality).

Glad to see AGD back at it, although I'd have to throw that feedneck in the trash off the bat and mount a CCM.

[going_home]

Its actually an Empire feedneck, but dont hold back, tell us how you really feel.

The main point is they are readily available, unless GI Sportz decides to can them.

And they do have the lever clamp which is a positive, but they are ginormous.....


;)

[halB]

Why, dear god why, would AGD step back into the market without a unified rail system?

[Nobody]

Why, dear god why, would AGD step back into the market without a unified rail system?

They used parts that they had on hand. Simple as that. Updating the feedneck & offering an anno, are worthy choices to come back.into the game, as it were.

Making all new parts is an expensive endeavour.

[Nobody]

Its actually an Empire feedneck, but dont hold back, tell us how you really feel.

The main point is they are readily available, unless GI Sportz decides to can them.

And they do have the lever clamp which is a positive, but they are ginormous.....


;)

They are not huge by any means. Adjust your eye glass prescription ;)

[halB]

They used parts that they had on hand. Simple as that. Updating the feedneck & offering an anno, are worthy choices to come back.into the game, as it were.

Making all new parts is an expensive endeavour.

Seems that with a drill press and a template it wouldn't be too hard to put threading through the rail/frame so they could be screwed together, and then another thread for the sear.

[going_home]

They are not huge by any means. Adjust your eye glass prescription ;)

They are gigantic , you need to stop looking thru Simons glasses.

And I dont wear prescription glasses any more, only readers.


;)

[KurtPB]

I use a Sanchez Machine on my CCM feedneck. Works like a champ, longer lever that's easy to use and not "bulky".