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going_home
01-09-2017, 07:19 PM
http://www.ebay.com/itm/AGD-RT-CLASSIC-RAIL-AUTOMAG-MINIMAG-PAINTBALL-/282315320641?hash=item41bb4ded41:g:fYQAAOSwa~BYbb9 p

You dont see these every day....

Sandman
01-10-2017, 01:56 PM
For $40 to $60 thats a good price too. Looks in really good shape.

Tunaman
01-10-2017, 02:40 PM
For $40 to $60 thats a good price too. Looks in really good shape.
If it is the old style rail it isn't worth a ****...

captian pinky
01-10-2017, 03:51 PM
The classic rt rails are worth it if you have a project. i just snagged one from sandman before this was posted.

going_home
01-10-2017, 05:38 PM
If it is the old style rail it isn't worth a ****...

1) How can you tell

2) Why not

Sandman
01-10-2017, 08:08 PM
Yeah Tuna, I'm not aware of an older or newer style change in the classic RT rails. RT's were introduced and developing while I was having my first kids so I didn't follow their changes during that time and was not aware of a significant rail style change. What classic RT rail differences are there and what do we look for to tell if it's older or newer?

I have a stash of classic RT rails and would like to be able to tell good from bad...

Thanks!
Sandman

Tunaman
01-10-2017, 08:17 PM
Yeah Tuna, I'm not aware of an older or newer style change in the classic RT rails. RT's were introduced and developing while I was having my first kids so I didn't follow their changes during that time and was not aware of a significant rail style change. What classic RT rail differences are there and what do we look for to tell if it's older or newer?

I have a stash of classic RT rails and would like to be able to tell good from bad...

Thanks!
Sandman

I believe there was a rail update for the Original RT. Something to do with the drilled hole for the banjo bolt. Thats all I know. Dave would know more. I do know that all of the RT rails that I have ever gotten from AGD were good ones...so I suspect the change was early on . If you got the rails from AGD Tim I suspect they are fine for sure. I have changed at least 20 or so during the years.;)

Spider-TW
01-10-2017, 10:36 PM
The difference should be on the top edge of the banjo bolt hole on the rail. There is a chamfer there on the edge, maybe excessive deburring, on the "defective" ones. If that chamfer is too large, it won't hold the middle banjo bolt o-ring in place. It will sprout leaks until the o-ring breaks from the pressure or from you taking the banjo bolt out when the o-ring is out of its groove. Mine was that way. I put a stainless sleeve in it to fix it. I still enjoy testing it out every now and then to make sure it works. :) It's not a fix you could sell, but leaky RTs are usually at a discount.

captian pinky
01-11-2017, 08:40 AM
good to know. ill check when i get home.

Sandman
01-11-2017, 01:02 PM
I have brand new rails I can see the deburring/chamfer groove on the top of the banjo hole.
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Close-ups make it look rough, however, this is a new rail.

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I guess I have to find an earlier bad one to really be able to know the difference.

It's good to know there was an early problem with that. Maybe keep me from pulling my hair out on a rebuild in the future.

Pinky, I honestly could not tell you on the rail I sent you. That rail looked perfect to me, however I have no idea of how early it was produced.
I'll assume it was a later production and the banjo hole was machined and finished properly.

captian pinky
01-11-2017, 01:21 PM
I have brand new rails I can see the deburring/chamfer groove on the top of the banjo hole.
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Close-ups make it look rough, however, this is a new rail.

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I guess I have to find an earlier bad one to really be able to know the difference.

It's good to know there was an early problem with that. Maybe keep me from pulling my hair out on a rebuild in the future.

Pinky, I honestly could not tell you on the rail I sent you. That rail looked perfect to me, however I have no idea of how early it was produced.
I'll assume it was a later production and the banjo hole was machined and finished properly.

ya thats what i was thinking too.

Spider-TW
01-11-2017, 02:11 PM
These pictures show a chamfer to a counter bore on the high sides. It has been a while, but I don't remember seeing machining detail like that, just a chamfer/countersink that went up the sides.

I have a post mod pic, but nothing before-hand from that side (just the bottom, doh!)