New Nummech Gas Thru Frame

[going_home]

http://i.imgur.com/vzpRKJT.jpg


Its not on the nummech website, not sure of pricing.

Apparently the hose comes out the top to externally connect to the valve.

No passenger side pics yet I guess.

http://www.pbnation.com/showthread.php?p=97778905&posted=1#post97778905


;)

[Spider-TW]

No passenger side pics yet I guess.

:confused:

[Nobody]

The passenger side pics won't tell you much, it's more the pics of the frame with the grips off that will.

I actually wonder more about how the trigger feels compared to an Intelliframe or the Xframes from AGD and if the ASA is proprietary.

[Dayspring]

Click for larger version.

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[kfletch]

Love it, need it!

[Dayspring]

From the post on Facebook:


Great response from the Mag community on the new N-Mag grip frame! To address some questions, here's a picture from the right side. We call it "pseudo-hoseless" since the marker technically has an external airline, but it's obviously a departure from the standard design. Unfortunately we couldn't make it totally hoseless without manufacturing an entirely new valve :( but this solution ensures you can use the frame with your existing valve setup. You may need to modify your grip panels, depending on their overall shape. No big deal!
The hoseless system requires our new ASA, but if you don't want to bother with that (simply want the frame for its ergonomics alone) you can simply use a standard ASA with your existing gas-thru foregrip. The frame will accept a bolt-on ASA or a T-slot ASA.

On the inside, the frame is internally ported for a built-in LPR and trigger actuator (seen in picture). We're still working on those parts, but it's really promising since all the new hardware adds zero hoses to the finished marker. The bad news is the full kit needs a TON of work so it won't be available for a while, but the basic frame can be upgraded once the parts are available.

That's all for now :)

[nak81783]

I wonder if they'll make a gas thru drop forward for it.

[going_home]

I wonder if they'll make a gas thru drop forward for it.

Mosey over to the PBN thread and ask ?

It definitely needs black macro fittings...

;)

[renie]

Looks nice not sure about the macro setup? be bit of a pain for easy valve removal, I did drawn up a way of connecting the valve to a frame with easy removal but that's a secret ;)
Personally i think the fitting would be better coming out of the rail.
Classic valve gas through frames are much cleaner,shame AGD didn't do a classicRT Xvalve, would if been lovely in this
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b9/renie666/Mobile%20Uploads/20160107_062636_zpsgbes9cbp_edit_1492322934876_zps 8wn02vwg.jpg (http://s16.photobucket.com/user/renie666/media/Mobile%20Uploads/20160107_062636_zpsgbes9cbp_edit_1492322934876_zps 8wn02vwg.jpg.html)

[Tunaman]

Way too ugly for me to touch one. What is up with the humpback frame? Makes it look like a Timmy. Those frames went out with the dinosaur...

[going_home]

Hump doesnt bother me, just looks like the AGD safety might not work because the frame is thinner in the surrounding area....

[Soonersdds]

Don't discount that somebody is trying their hand at aftermarket parts for the platform. Can't be a bad thing.

[Dayspring]

Way too ugly for me to touch one. What is up with the humpback frame? Makes it look like a Timmy. Those frames went out with the dinosaur...

Probably using the existing geometry that they have for the Axe/Mini frames.

[going_home]

He says the hump is only 4mm (0.15748 inch) more than an Intelliframe and a standard safety will work.

Heres yet another shot :


http://i.imgur.com/8Wc6znl.jpg

[captian pinky]

patience......

[going_home]

He says the hump is only 4mm (0.15748 inch) more than an Intelliframe and a standard safety will work.

Heres yet another shot :


http://i.imgur.com/8Wc6znl.jpg

Whats that thingy at the front of the frame closest to the trigger sticking up ?

And whats the white thing inside the frame in this pic ?

Is something pneumatic going on in there ?

http://i.imgur.com/YHI8cVx.jpg

[captian pinky]

Whats that thingy at the front of the frame closest to the trigger sticking up ?

And whats the white thing inside the frame in this pic ?

Is something pneumatic going on in there ?

http://i.imgur.com/YHI8cVx.jpg

you will find out shortly. He still is in the testing phase.

[knownothingmags]

Way too ugly for me to touch one. What is up with the humpback frame? Makes it look like a Timmy. Those frames went out with the dinosaur...

+1

[Ydna]

Inside the empty frame, the small vertical component is a blocker plug that seals off the internal LPR housing. That way you can use a mech sear without the added bells and whistles.
The other picture (with the shorty airline) shows the LPR and actuator prototype.

If you're not into grip frames with humps, Intelliframe is definitely the way to go. This is virtually the exact same overall shape as the Intelli but with the added tiny palm swell that people demand we build for them. Remember we're trying to make different parts to justify deviating from the OEM, otherwise there isn't much reason to do it in the first place.
Having said that, if enough people ask for an N-Mag frame with straight-spine then I'd love to provide it! There has to be enough demand though. We're already exploring a single-trigger version since a bajillion people have asked for it. It's really that easy. :)

[knownothingmags]

People demanded it?

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[Laku]

I think the hump only looks off when there's straight edged grip on the frame. Without the grip it looks fine to me.

[Nobody]

I think the hump only looks off when there's straight edged grip on the frame. Without the grip it looks fine to me.

I agree. Because the pics, so far, have shown the gun at various angles to the camera, it is accentuating the hump on the frame. Till these are in people's hands, and better pics taken (not quality, but more linear at or near a straight line to the camera), tbese will always look funy compared to what we have and what we use.

[Patron God of Pirates]

The only thing I don't love is the trigger guard.

[OPBN]

Is there enough room on the newer AM/MM length rails for the foregrip mount? That would be the killer for me. Personally I like the looks of it, but I hate the longer rails.

[jarhead86]

The more people that don't like it, the more likely I can get one in the first run. I am completely cool with that. I think it's great, I was looking at tearing apart a dm15 and doing almost the same thing. Now I don't have to try. I Love it, and think it will look great with my Evo body

[BigEvil]

Leave it to Tuna to **** on what potentially could be the best new mag product in years.

[knownothingmags]

😂 lmao

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[Tunaman]

Leave it to Tuna to **** on what potentially could be the best new mag product in years.
The M90 was nicer. Proprietary ASA? Who needs that. Just telling you what I see. I do not see anything revolutionary. And it doesnt look like it will be inexpensive either. I am not knocking the design. Ingenious stuff here.

[going_home]

If it didnt come with the asa we'd have to pay someone to mod them so its actually better IMHO.


;)

[knownothingmags]

But is it a decent Asa? So I don't have to shoot to unscrew the tank?

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[going_home]

I'm pretty sure with as many nice asa's as there is on the market he wouldnt make one that doesnt bleed the air.

[knownothingmags]

You never know some things get over looked. 😁

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[Nobody]

But is it a decent Asa? So I don't have to shoot to unscrew the tank?

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I am sure about that. Nowadays, having the ASA that can bleed the tank out should be about standard.

I would have to see more of thd ASA and where the line pickup is, but i would assume that if you were industrious, that you can use any of the Tslot ASAs that are now coming out, especially the EZ ASA from Inception Designs.

[Ydna]

I would put a gun to my head before selling a non-bleeding ASA :) but seriously, it's just a straightforward "on/off knob" ASA, ultra reliable and time-tested. It's also literally the cheapest and simplest type of bleeding ASA to manufacture, so costs are kept down.

The frame can be used with a #10-32 bolt-on or T-slot ASA if you don't want to use the internal air routing. Remember the goal is for anyone to buy the base frame without the frills, and be able to use it with existing gas-thru foregrips or homebrew pneumag valves without buying the nummech kit (or if you want to leave the option open for later). But in order to do that, the frame needs to be compatible with bolt-on ASA's along with the superior T-slot ASA mounting method, along with the frame-routed air supply. But...there aren't any existing high pressure ASAs out there that fulfill all those goals, so we came up with a new one that could do it while still maintaining compatibility with all those other mounting systems. And it'll be compatible with hypothetical gas-thru accessories when the time comes (another thing people have requested).

Anyway I hope that illuminates some of the unknowns. If you wish I can take some pictures of the ASA for more info. (although remember some features will change)

[Nobody]

I would put a gun to my head before selling a non-bleeding ASA :) but seriously, it's just a straightforward "on/off knob" ASA, ultra reliable and time-tested. It's also literally the cheapest and simplest type of bleeding ASA to manufacture, so costs are kept down.

The frame can be used with a #10-32 bolt-on or T-slot ASA if you don't want to use the internal air routing. Remember the goal is for anyone to buy the base frame without the frills, and be able to use it with existing gas-thru foregrips or homebrew pneumag valves without buying the nummech kit (or if you want to leave the option open for later). But in order to do that, the frame needs to be compatible with bolt-on ASA's along with the superior T-slot ASA mounting method, along with the frame-routed air supply. But...there aren't any existing high pressure ASAs out there that fulfill all those goals, so we came up with a new one that could do it while still maintaining compatibility with all those other mounting systems. And it'll be compatible with hypothetical gas-thru accessories when the time comes (another thing people have requested).

Anyway I hope that illuminates some of the unknowns. If you wish I can take some pictures of the ASA for more info. (although remember some features will change)

Gun p0rn is always welcome.

But only till you are ready to share them. I too agree with the T-slot being far better than any other design. But, i personally never dealt with a POPs ASA & don't know the routing of the EZ ASA to say that at this time, to safely say that you could tap them to replace the one there. It would be assume to be able to, but we will have to wait for those production models.

[BigEvil]

Im trying to talk YDNA into making an manifold that fits between the asa and the frame that is 1/8 npt tapped on 3 sides to accommodate all of us schmucks that want to run a looping hose or other air set up :D

[Loguzzzzzz]

If it didnt come with the asa we'd have to pay someone to mod them so its actually better IMHO.


;)

. . . and that is a problem. . . ;)

[Loguzzzzzz]

Perfect candidate for a clean little hard line set up IMO

[jarhead86]

Perfect candidate for a clean little hard line set up IMO

Exactly my thoughts, one little piece between ccm fittings. Easiest way to disassemble and reassemble. So I need some hardline. Who's got some?

[Nobody]

Exactly my thoughts, one little piece between ccm fittings. Easiest way to disassemble and reassemble. So I need some hardline. Who's got some?

CCM fittings? Why do you want it to leak? :ninja:

[jarhead86]

CCM fittings? Why do you want it to leak? :ninja:

I haven't had issues with them yet, do they not work with hardline?

[Ydna]

Here's the frame mounting:
http://www.zdspb.com/media/customwork/automag/nmagasa_104010.jpg
The air input hole is at the bottom of the T-slot rail, which seals against the ASA's top rail that protrudes upward (pic below). If you're using the T-slot rail with a typical ASA, you'd be using set screws that tighten downward and push the ASA downward. That's kinda troublesome for frame-routed air supplies since the sealing ASA wants to be pulled "toward" the frame in order to seal its o-ring. Standard ASAs don't care, they just slide on and get locked down somehow, but the sealing ASAs are more picky about the design there.

Anyway here's the prototype ASA and knob: (many details are going to change, but the basic design will stay the same).
http://www.zdspb.com/media/customwork/automag/nmagasa_104253.jpg
The crossed-out holes are just used during the manufacturing process, so they don't do anything IRL.

[knownothingmags]

Did we answer will this fit on a am/mm length rail with a forgrip attached?

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[Nobody]

Hmmm, interesting. Is the mounting required to have 4 lock down screws, or is that just an option?

Also, i know with the Inception EZ ASA, it was specifically designed to work with both pin and ball style reg bonnets. Have you experienced any problems with this? By looking at the design(following a more traditional, older style that had no problems), i suspect it shouldn't but assurance/confirmation from the designer is always a good thing.

[Laku]

I haven't had issues with them yet, do they not work with hardline?

They work. Haven't had any problems with them.

[Apathetic_Chaos]

I'd give the frame a shot, seems interesting

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[going_home]

Perfect candidate for a clean little hard line set up IMO


Great idea and it wouldn't look bad straight up from the frame, then 90 degrees straight back to the valve.

It'd be nice if he could supply that and the fittings that work with the line.

Even better if the line is black and the fittings.


;)

[jarhead86]

They work. Haven't had any problems with them.

Do you need to put o rings in them or anything special? Just want to learn so I don't have any issues.

[Laku]

Do you need to put o rings in them or anything special? Just want to learn so I don't have any issues.

If the hardline length is right and OD (1/4") is right then you can use just as they are.
If you cut the hardline smidge too short then you can just add extra o-ring to make it seal a little earlier.
Someone had problem with the OD of his hardline, but that can be solved with little thicker o-ring instead of the standard one.

[Ydna]

I've bee looking into options on the hardline. Not sure what will happen there though, since different people want different stuffs.


Hmmm, interesting. Is the mounting required to have 4 lock down screws, or is that just an option?
Also, i know with the Inception EZ ASA, it was specifically designed to work with both pin and ball style reg bonnets. Have you experienced any problems with this? By looking at the design(following a more traditional, older style that had no problems), i suspect it shouldn't but assurance/confirmation from the designer is always a good thing.
The 4-screw method isn't required but I find it to be easier for mounting since the screws are closer to the sides of the frame. Even if you use straigth allen keys (no ball-rounded ends) it doesn't take much effort to screw them in since they're easily accessible.

Yeah I know the problem you're describing on the pin valves. I've complained about that many times in the past. There isn't a standard for the exact length of a tank bonnet, so the pin valves are positioned all over the place. I've measured LOTS of tank bonnets trying to make parts that will work with everything.
Here's a picture that shows a dozen different tank bonnets (http://www.zdspb.com/media/tech/Tankpincomparison.jpg) including a Ninja (both v1 and v2). Going from a Crossfire to a Ninja to a Valken may be enough to cause problems with some ASAs, depending on how they were built. what a headache!

Usually what we do (historically) is make the ASA knob's pin-valve-opener work with the stubbiest of tanks, which functions for just about anything, including the Ninja ball valve. Fortunately they don't need to be depressed very far to reach great flow, no problem there.
I've heard of tanks that can be opened "too far", depending on how its pin valve is designed. I think the old System-X tanks were like that but I may be wrong.

But anyway, the important thing is that even if you need to modify the ASA knob, it's not a big deal since all you need do is carefully file off some length on the pin opener with a hand file. Worst case scenario is too much material is removed, but nummech can sell just the knob for replacement.

[Patron God of Pirates]

As an alternative to the hard line, and for a tighter cleaner look overall... Since you know the fixed distance between the frame port and the valve port, would it be possible to make a male/female setup that didn't require pain in the ass macro?

trike so:
93778

[jarhead86]

All I need to know is when? How much? And where do I send my money

[BigEvil]

The M90 was nicer. Proprietary ASA? Who needs that. Just telling you what I see. I do not see anything revolutionary. And it doesnt look like it will be inexpensive either. I am not knocking the design. Ingenious stuff here.

When Andy is all said and done, this might revitalize the entire mag scene. Especially when the first NXL team shoots them and they obliterate their opposition.

[djinnform]

what macro line hose color will i choose?

[djinnform]

As an alternative to the hard line, and for a tighter cleaner look overall... Since you know the fixed distance between the frame port and the valve port, would it be possible to make a male/female setup that didn't require pain in the ass macro?

trike so:
93778

cool idea, mini hard line

[Nobody]

what macro line hose color will i choose?

Neon green or any colour that will clash ;)

[captian pinky]

cool idea, mini hard line

problem being that it isnt the same height and is actually offset a fair amount.

[tippmannhunter8]

just lmk when the pre order starts. This is going on the minimag

[cockerpunk]

it would require pulling out the pin in the valve, but doing a banjo bolt like the classic RT to mount the valve, would be even cleaner.

that would be awesome, a totally hoseless mag.

[Apathetic_Chaos]

If I could make my classic RT completely hoseless sign me up now

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[going_home]

it would require pulling out the pin in the valve, but doing a banjo bolt like the classic RT to mount the valve, would be even cleaner.

that would be awesome, a totally hoseless mag.

This could be done on a classic RT.

Just put a macro fitting on the rail.


;)

[djinnform]

But where do I put my Ego Dart LPR?

[PaintballSmurf13]

Make a classic RT version so it'll be totally hoseless... and then SIGN. ME. UP.

[going_home]

What mag does this remind you of ?


http://www.nummech.com/media/prod_swiftaxepro/swiftaxepro_2961_22p.jpg


http://www.nummech.com/media/prod_swiftaxepro/swiftaxepro_2982_18p.jpg



:rolleyes:

[luke]

LOL, took me about 20 seconds...

[going_home]

LOL, took me about 20 seconds...

That long ?

:confused:

[luke]

My first focus was on the lowers.

[Ydna]

Tonton Shocker NXT :)

http://www.zdspb.com/media/skrnxt/pl/tontonnxt_pic1.jpeg

[knownothingmags]

Tonton Shocker NXT :)

http://www.zdspb.com/media/skrnxt/pl/tontonnxt_pic1.jpegYep

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[going_home]

Tonton Shocker NXT :)

http://www.zdspb.com/media/skrnxt/pl/tontonnxt_pic1.jpeg

Ok makes sense.

I was thinking of the Evo unibody.

http://i.imgur.com/tiLjF9t.jpg

[knownothingmags]

The ones that had valve fitment issues?

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[BigEvil]

The ones that had valve fitment issues?

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Stop making my head hurt

[going_home]

The ones that had valve fitment issues?

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The one above didn't have that but I have a raw one I had to fix....

Thanks to Scott for letting the issue be known.

It's weird that on two different Xvalves the zpin placement is different.

When you post pics on imgur other people can comment, a guy commented he thinks the Evo mag is a Shocker.


:nono:

[Ydna]

Different Z-lock? now you're making MY head hurt too

[Tunaman]

The Zlock pin location has not changed. Reannoing valves is what makes the pin wind up in a different spot.

[going_home]

Different Z-lock? now you're making MY head hurt too


The Zlock pin location has not changed. Reannoing valves is what makes the pin wind up in a different spot.

Neither were re-anodized.

One is an older RT Pro Xvalve, RTP01599 , the other VV03941.

I just made sure they would both work before the body gets anodized.

I was hoping to get a dust black Xvalve for this marker ......


:ninja:



This valve fit the body no problem.
http://i.imgur.com/kt78kE6.jpg

[Tunaman]

Neither were re-anodized.

One is an older RT Pro Xvalve, RTP01599 , the other VV03941.

I just made sure they would both work before the body gets anodized.

I was hoping to get a dust black Xvalve for this marker ......


:ninja:



This valve fit the body no problem.
http://i.imgur.com/kt78kE6.jpgBut you still dont know if the annodizer that originally did them ran it through twice. Happens alot when they dont come out good. Even the wrong oring spec will cause the zlock to wind up in a different place when screwed together.

[Kapyrna]

Got the frame in the mail today (with another goodie from them too). My X-Valve is in the Deflator build at the moment but that's what'd be used in this too.

https://i.imgur.com/4fNqiVGh.jpg

Now to get a trigger, grips, and macro fittings. Probably get the mag-specific CCM fittings in dust black.

[going_home]

I want one raw.

I pm'd Andy on pbn about getting one.

He said I'd need to PayPal direct not thru the website so I asked him for the amount and PayPal addy and never heard back from him.......

[Kapyrna]

I want one raw.

I pm'd Andy on pbn about getting one.

He said I'd need to PayPal direct not thru the website so I asked him for the amount and PayPal addy and never heard back from him.......

It took a bit emailing back and forth over another request in conjunction with the frame purchase. Paintball probably isn't his day job.

[djinnform]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171109/a64809c5f1cb6acac668bbe1e7ce3bc8.jpg


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[djinnform]

Love it. Some new blood.


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[Kapyrna]

What 45 panels and trigger do you have on there? I love the carbon fibre.

[captian pinky]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171109/e8f50f54aaa7aa8ca3aa0b11e9e65b43.jpg
I got my other frame last week haven’t had a chance to post a pic.


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[djinnform]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171109/e8f50f54aaa7aa8ca3aa0b11e9e65b43.jpg
I got my other frame last week haven’t had a chance to post a pic.


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What trigger is this? rad

[going_home]

What trigger is this? rad

One of Shawns RPG Splinter triggers, wish I had one....

My question to you is, why would you buy one of Andys frames if you didnt plan on using the gas thru frame capability ?

I bought a raw one of these, incoming Evo project....

;)

[dahoeb]

My question to you is, why would you buy one of Andys frames if you didnt plan on using the gas thru frame capability ?

;)

Personally, I wanted to use the gas thru capability and eventually their pneumag-kit, but using the bottomline ASA didn't work out for me. I just couldn't get the mag to comfortably shoulder and center without the mask getting in the way.

All of my other guns (proton and DP G3) line up comfortably and fire just fine with a bottomline ASA, but not my mags.

[going_home]

Get a super light tank, they are considerably shorter.

;)

[bowcycle]

And isn't Numech coming out with a drop for this frame?
I talked to Andy about the single-trigger version and he said that's a few projects back, but I didn't ask about the drop.

[dahoeb]

They have a t-rail drop forward which works well, but it isn’t gas-through, so you wouldn’t be able to take advantage if their eventual pneu-mag kit.

[bowcycle]

My original understanding was that a new drop was being developed specifically for the gas-thru frame that would still use its gas-thru capacity, but I'm not 100% on that.

[going_home]

I hadn't heard about it.

I'm guessing if so it'd be a limited quantity, seems like there wouldn't be much demand for them.

No one uses them any more, SL tanks changed the tank game, much shorter.

[dahoeb]

For me, its not the length of the tank that is the problem. Its the girth :( its always the girth... :|

[lynxkcg]

The gas thru drop is on the nummech site now. Looks good.

[bowcycle]

I think it looks great!
Here's the link. (http://www.nummech.com/prod_item_nmagdropforward.html)

I'm buying one now and waiting for the single-trigger frame to drop.

[dahoeb]

Just bought it, thanks Lynxkcg and Bow!

[Gabehcoud]

So uhh... disassembly, how's that working out. Say if I just need to remove the valve real quick. It looks like I would have to completely remove the frame from the rail and then fight with the little stub of macroline trying to get it to release before I could get to the valve. Or am I mistaken. Also how is the asa. Right now I have a cp on/off and it's the smoothest on/off I have personally experienced, anything like that?

[captian pinky]

So uhh... disassembly, how's that working out. Say if I just need to remove the valve real quick. It looks like I would have to completely remove the frame from the rail and then fight with the little stub of macroline trying to get it to release before I could get to the valve. Or am I mistaken. Also how is the asa. Right now I have a cp on/off and it's the smoothest on/off I have personally experienced, anything like that?

2 CCM fittings, 1 long 1 short post. remove the 2 screws on the fitting pull the fittings off and remove the valve like normal. The on/off is more difficult to turn than a cp. It would have made making the on/off way more difficult and much more expensive to machine it like a newer style on/off.

[going_home]

2 CCM fittings, 1 long 1 short post. remove the 2 screws on the fitting pull the fittings off and remove the valve like normal. The on/off is more difficult to turn than a cp. It would have made making the on/off way more difficult and much more expensive to machine it like a newer style on/off.

Thanks for that.

I never thought about doing it that way.

I'm building one using this frame, I'm using Azodin fittings but they assemble the same basic way.

;)

[Gabehcoud]

Yes thanks for that info captain. Also how much more difficult are we talking. Like is it annoyingly so or just not enough to care

[capt spank]

not enough to care in my opinion.

[Gabehcoud]

Well then this sounds like it will be a great Christmas present then. I shall sit on Santa's lap and tell him about this one

[maxpower]

I just got mine in the mail. It is beautiful. One thing to note is the frame does not work with a twist lock body since the frame doesnt have a hole for the twist lock retaining pin. I also found out that my VL front grip will not work because it hits even the flush style trigger guard.

[captian pinky]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171203/d91260fadff7f4749a6226fa0072d578.jpg

Used mine for 10 man Atlanta event.


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[dahoeb]

beautiful marker, pinky, i like what you got going there!

[SummaryJudgement]

Pics of the other side possible? Gotta love a good Karta!....oh, you’re hit by the way ;)

[captian pinky]

Pics of the other side possible? Gotta love a good Karta!....oh, you’re hit by the way ;)

Don't have one on me. ya that's what happens when your the last guy left in the corner. Thankfully i took him with me too. We were about 5 feet apart.

[SummaryJudgement]

Don't have one on me. ya that's what happens when your the last guy left in the corner. Thankfully i took him with me too. We were about 5 feet apart.

:shooting::dance::cuss:.......:D

[captian pinky]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20171205/d52d9b793fe1c2fe47d36512e3b0ae2a.jpg
Forgot I took pics before I left in case something went missing.


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[maxpower]

What sear is needed for this frame? My automag sear doesn’t fit. Do I need to grind it down? And anyone found a way to keep the twist lock barrel and body since it doesn’t have a hole for the twist lock pin?

[captian pinky]

The sear is based on your rail not the frame. It may need to be adjusted depending on the trigger you use.


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[maxpower]

Thank you Luke. I didn’t know there were different style am/mm Sears. I see the newer style now.

[Dark Side]

I really need to pick one up.

[ScottyBeans]

Pinky that looks fantastic! Still pretty easy to remove the valve? Thinking of doing a build

[captian pinky]

ya its pretty easy to take a part if you go with the ccm style fittings.

pic of karta shooting it at 10 man
https://i.imgur.com/XcEwxpJ.jpg

[dahoeb]

Finally got the Nummech frame setup how it was meant to be! Installed the new "gas through" drop forward.

95147

[djinnform]

How did you get that first? I was on the waiting list. Jealous.


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[dahoeb]

How did you get that first? I was on the waiting list. Jealous.


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I dunno! I just went on their site and placed the order like I would anything else...good luck I guess! You might want to shoot them an email to make sure they didn't forget about you.

[Bunny]

How have these frames been holding up?? I'm getting the itch to upgrade a marker of mine... :D

[captian pinky]

How have these frames been holding up?? I'm getting the itch to upgrade a marker of mine... :D

I think Bigevil and i have had ours the longest. I actually have 2 now. I played 10 man ATL with it which is where i replaced the buna oring.


I would recommend replacing the oring that nummech provides with the agd spec urethane oring. The buna one that was used seems to be soft and gets nicked on occasion when screwing the on/off in. Also when i received the 2nd one it leaked from the piston inside the frame. as long as the piston isn't showing from the bottom it will seal. next time i have mine apart i can snap some pics. It may be easier for him to add some material to the piston for it to rest on the ledge in the frame.

[going_home]

Which are you talking about, the one on top of theb ASA or the one in the ASA ?


http://www.nummech.com/media/prod_nmagframe/nmagframe-installation.pdf



https://i.imgur.com/8IoRjhr.jpg?1

[captian pinky]

The one on the asa knob when you completely remove it.

[Bunny]

Is the gap in the gripframe really noticeable?

[captian pinky]

which gap?

[Bunny]

Sorry about that! the gap between the frame and the grips. It looks like there may be a gap depending on the grips used on the frame.

[Kapyrna]

Gap isn't super huge at least on the right side.

https://i.imgur.com/u32qwo1h.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/u32qwo1.jpg)

[capt spank]

luke's panels cover it

[jarhead86]

Dye Stickies cover it too

[going_home]

Gap isn't super huge at least on the right side.

https://i.imgur.com/u32qwo1h.jpg (https://i.imgur.com/u32qwo1.jpg)



Nice

;)

[lynxkcg]

Anyone had any trouble with their safety locking up? The ball has deformed the safety pin groove on mine to the point that you can't take it off safety. The safety screw is flush with the top of the frame, I hope I have a lighter spring lying around.

[Ydna]

Email your mailing info to info@nummech and I can send you a new safety button! I'll see if I have any lighter springs, but not sure at that tiny size...but you can always try cutting the spring just a little shorter. Just don't go too short or else it won't work at all :(

[Laku]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mk25yJmfdJY

[going_home]

Single trigger frame.

Nice find.

Looks like double and single are in stock too.


http://www.nummech.com/prod_cat_automag.html

;)

[ScottyBeans]

these are siiiick!

[ascinder]

What ever happened to their pneumag kit? It looks like you would have a hard time fitting a normal LPR in there, let alone Luke's. Did anyone ever successfully pneumag a nummech?

[captian pinky]

What ever happened to their pneumag kit? It looks like you would have a hard time fitting a normal LPR in there, let alone Luke's. Did anyone ever successfully pneumag a nummech?

He is working on it like everything else he has going on.

mag frames both single and double, cocker frames, cocker bodies, etc. all of which is on the side of his day job...

[Jay419]

I just wish he would answer his emails. Got mine 2 weeks ago and it’s un-useable as is. Pretty crappy customer service if you ask me!

[mobsterboy]

I just wish he would answer his emails. Got mine 2 weeks ago and it’s un-useable as is. Pretty crappy customer service if you ask me!

I'm sure he isn't ignoring you on purpose. What kind of problems you got, homie?

[Jay419]

The front frame screw hole is drilled crooked and will not thread into the body without modifying the front screw. I have it Micky Moused for now by grinding the screw down where it passes through the frame. Not really ideal. Also the air passage setscrew protrudes out of the back hump in the frame and is super sharp. It seems to be Red Locktited in not making for easy replacement with a shorter one. Thats all that I’ve found FOR NOW since I haven’t even aired it up yet. I have been waiting patiently to hear back from them to no avail.

100515
100513

[Jay419]

I mean don’t get me wrong, I really like the frame. I would just like to get the issues resolved so I can use it.

[kfletch]

I mean don’t get me wrong, I really like the frame. I would just like to get the issues resolved so I can use it.

Wow, how does that even make it past QC?

[captian pinky]

well i can say for a fact that i have had at least 6 come across my bench that had not had the screw issue. as far as the set screw that seems to be a simple fix.

[going_home]

The front frame screw hole is drilled crooked and will not thread into the body without modifying the front screw. I have it Micky Moused for now by grinding the screw down where it passes through the frame. Not really ideal. Also the air passage setscrew protrudes out of the back hump in the frame and is super sharp. It seems to be Red Locktited in not making for easy replacement with a shorter one. Thats all that I’ve found FOR NOW since I haven’t even aired it up yet. I have been waiting patiently to hear back from them to no avail.


If its drilled wrong I wouldnt fool with it.

It needs to go back to Andy.....

[Jay419]

Trying to! Emailed again on Monday, but still no emails back from them. Looks like I may have to do the return thru PayPal and find a different frame that I like. Sucks too since I like the frame and not having the 12” of macro hanging off the marker.

[ascinder]

I contacted him on FB, he replied right away. Might try that.

[Jay419]

Just did what you suggested. Hopefully he will reply back.

*UPDATE*

Frame is finally on its way back to Nummech. Hopefully everything gets straightened out.

[emo.83]

Question about the macroline fittings. I've seen pictures with this frame showing a short run from the outlet to the valve but looking at my mag the fittings would be offset in height. How are people getting the macro fittings to line up well enough to use such a small line? Being so short there wouldn't be much flex allowed from the line.

[captian pinky]

Question about the macroline fittings. I've seen pictures with this frame showing a short run from the outlet to the valve but looking at my mag the fittings would be offset in height. How are people getting the macro fittings to line up well enough to use such a small line? Being so short there wouldn't be much flex allowed from the line.

They are using ccm fittings. They make 2 different post heights. So you need 1 short one on the valve and one long one on the frame.

[emo.83]

That makes sense I wasn't aware of the longer post option until you mentioned it and I looked it up. Thanks

[TheRealKaz]

Mine is on it's way in the mail. So glad they finally have a second run of these ready to go!

[Jay419]

Hopefully your experience is better that mine with Nummech.
Sent mine back since it was received with a machining error. Finally after 5 weeks trying to get it worked out I was tired of it and just got a Refund.

[TheRealKaz]

Yeah that doesn't sound like fun! Hopefully it's not that bad. I will find out.

[captian pinky]

Hopefully your experience is better that mine with Nummech.
Sent mine back since it was received with a machining error. Finally after 5 weeks trying to get it worked out I was tired of it and just got a Refund.

It honestly sounds like your experience was isolated. I have seen 10-15 come across my bench so far and all of them bolted up and were off and running like they should.

[TheRealKaz]

I got it today. I don't have any of the issues you had, Jay. Sorry to hear that yours was messed up. Might be worth giving them a second chance.....

[TheRealKaz]

I got mine on today. Everything went great. Only down side was the safety wasn't that great. Put the AGD safety in and it works great.

Need to find a long CCM air fitting post now.

[kfletch]

They are using ccm fittings. They make 2 different post heights. So you need 1 short one on the valve and one long one on the frame.

Anyone have a good source for these they can share?

[TheRealKaz]

Anyone have a good source for these they can share?

CCM's website. I think they have parts back in stock.

https://store.chipleymachine.com/parts/

[kfletch]

Ah ty I didn't scroll down enough to see the longer thread.

[TheRealKaz]

Yeah it's tucked at the bottom but back in stock. Looking like only a few colors are though.

[dwn0414]

Sold mine just after buying. Who ever anodized it did not sand any milling marks out. Looked very rough

[splyncryth]

I just received mine last night. There's quite a few burrs on the frame, one near the valve strip screw area that gouges into my thumb. There is also a few incomplete milling marks scattered throughout the frame. I've emailed Nummech and am waiting for a response.

[mobsterboy]

I just received mine last night. There's quite a few burrs on the frame, one near the valve strip screw area that gouges into my thumb. There is also a few incomplete milling marks scattered throughout the frame. I've emailed Nummech and am waiting for a response.

Single or double?

[splyncryth]

Single

[splyncryth]

I emailed them and they said to mail the frame back. They received the frame 8 days ago and I've not heard from them, nor have I received a refund. Sent a couple emails with no response. I don't know whats going on.