Nummech "FireMag" Body

[maniacmechanic]

https://www.facebook.com/nummech/photos/a.471069829632681.1073741825.167842983288702/1515812608491726/?type=3&theater

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How much? When will it be available? Where do I buy it?:

We need to make a batch of the body blanks then figure out how they will be sliced up. For this level of detail, the body will probably be around 300 (detents included). We'll get more details available a little later!

How do we make a line to get one:

We aren't going to make too many, but I don't think you'll have a problem getting one. We're trying to gauge demand to see how many bodies need to be cranked out...

[knownothingmags]

Oh neat

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[Apathetic_Chaos]

I want that beast

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[ElGringo]

Wow

[going_home]

He made the Fireaxe for the first gen Axe a while back.


http://www.nummech.com/media/prod_fireaxe/fireaxe885.jpg



Now the Firemag ;)


Good job !

[knownothingmags]

Neat

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[OneSelfLost]

So are these things a one-off, or going into production?

[barkingspider]

I like there stuff! My axe is put together with some of there products. I'll be watching for these.

[wetwrks]

So are these things a one-off, or going into production?

Says they will run about $300 including detents. I would take that to mean production.

[OneSelfLost]

Says they will run about $300 including detents. I would take that to mean production.

I should probably read before asking questions. Hahaha

[Bunny]

More automag parts the better. I'm interested in seeing the complete gun. We always have issues with getting a matching foregrip or battery pack milling though. Hopefully it will look good with all sorts of different options.

Nummech/Ydna, please drop by the paintball museum on Saturday/Sunday to chat!! I want to capture some more pictures for AO. :headbang:

[Tunaman]

Just pray that they use the removable ring and c clip like the ULE bodies...not some crap pressed in ring like others have tried

[knownothingmags]

Just pray that they use the removable ring and c clip like the ULE bodies...not some crap pressed in ring like others have tried

they better not use anything but the ring and clip, and mill the sear slot in the bottom farther for ease of install and uninstall the c clip and ring.

[Patron God of Pirates]

Sounds like they are talking closely with Scott for all of their new mag projects so I expect they are getting sound advice. Not a fan of their body styles, too busy for my taste, but that's just my taste. I hope they have lots of success with all of this.

[BigEvil]

Sounds like they are talking closely with Scott for all of their new mag projects so I expect they are getting sound advice.


:D


Andy is solid. He needs little advice but thanks for the vote of confidence.


I am looking forward to having a Firemag annoed Tequila sunrise fade in the near future!

[knownothingmags]

I would like to get one also

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[rawbutter]

Is this a unibody design? Looks like the rail is built in.

[Tunaman]

Sounds like they are talking closely with Scott for all of their new mag projects so I expect they are getting sound advice. Not a fan of their body styles, too busy for my taste, but that's just my taste. I hope they have lots of success with all of this.Oh Boy. Scott is involved? God only knows how these will turn out...:D

[BigEvil]

Oh Boy. Scott is involved? God only knows how these will turn out...:D

Im not stupid... I will be the only one that can make them work and everyone will have to send them to me to assemble and tech $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$

:D

[Tunaman]

Im not stupid... I will be the only one that can make them work and everyone will have to send them to me to assemble and tech $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$

:D

I'll save a parking spot for you in front of my house...:D

[zondo]

More automag parts the better. I'm interested in seeing the complete gun. We always have issues with getting a matching foregrip or battery pack milling though. Hopefully it will look good with all sorts of different options.

Nummech/Ydna, please drop by the paintball museum on Saturday/Sunday to chat!! I want to capture some more pictures for AO. :headbang:

I asked them if they could make a production frame like they did for the mini. I really would like to see an Axe-like Nummech frame with built in foregrip. Let's just help them sell these bodies and maybe they'll make more mag stuff!


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[Tunaman]

I asked them if they could make a production frame like they did for the mini. I really would like to see an Axe-like Nummech frame with built in foregrip. Let's just help them sell these bodies and maybe they'll make more mag stuff!


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkNo way in hell! Mags suck! And they Chop! And they are heavy! Obsolete!!!:D:D;)

[going_home]

Is this a unibody design? Looks like the rail is built in.

Looks like it to me also....

[captian pinky]

Andy is solid. He needs little advice but thanks for the vote of confidence.


I'll second this.


Oh Boy. Scott is involved? God only knows how these will turn out...:D

He isn't the only one.

[knownothingmags]

I'll second this.



He isn't the only one.
don't mess anything up

[captian pinky]

and what is that supposed to mean?

[knownothingmags]

Just jabing. Since everyone needed to know you were involved. 😂

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[capt spank]

would this be RT length or standard am/mm? I'm trying to think of what existing foregrips and frames would flow well with it.

[captian pinky]

would this be RT length or standard am/mm? I'm trying to think of what existing foregrips and frames would flow well with it.

likely rt length.

[tippmannhunter8]

I like that there is still appeal, the design is certainly new. Maybe it will attract some of the haters...

[going_home]

No matter.

Haters gonna hate


;)

[tbaggin]

this body would get me into mags again

[going_home]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or0OE8SoIlE

[knownothingmags]

nifty

[djinnform]

Okay already. What's the PayPal e-mail?


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[alpha_q_up23]

The foregrip seems......... Odd?

[Bunny]

The foregrip seems......... Odd?

I believe Andrew mocked up something very quick to get all of his parts field tested. I begged him to come up with some new ideas since we don't really have a large selection of foregrip options to choose from. I know Ydna lurks on the forums. If you guys have any suggestions or ideas he may be listening :p

[alpha_q_up23]

Good to know, personally I don't know how I feel about the foregrip, I maybe it's cause I haven't seen it up close

[ElGringo]

The foregrip seems......... Odd?

Looks like a penis to me

[renie]

Looks like a penis to me

if your penis looks like that you might wanna see the DR pmsl

[Bunny]

if your penis looks like that you might wanna see the DR pmsl

if we are playing this game... what do you think about one of the ULE prototypes that AGD came up with in 2003?

http://www.automags.org/images/AO/pic/img/proto/ule_pt3_1.jpg

To stay on topic... I wonder if Nummech could make a foregrip like Venomous Designs made years back. :D

[BigEvil]

Ribbed, for her pleasure.

[Nobody]

I am sure that while Nummech won't directly copy the VD foregrip, if you propose a design direction that would compliment the Firemag body and be a stand alone; Ydna would do something more than "the basic foregrip" he whipped up for Living Legends...

[TheRealKaz]

Did this ever release?

[Konigballer]

I've never seen one aside from this thread, so maybe not.

As an aside, I wish Nummech would do something relatively simple and just re-create the old Omega rails for standard AM/MM bodies. Those guns are never going away, and the Omega rail is still sought after, almost 20 years later, as probably the best looking standard length mag rail ever made. Why not just make them again?

[TheRealKaz]

I'm not a fan of the standard length rails... Loving actually being able to use the foregrip with an extended rail.

[Konigballer]

Well, theoretically, he could just extend the design and make both. My original suggestion would just be a simple upgrade for the THOUSANDS of basic Mags/Minimags floating around that don't use the RTP length rail.

[TheRealKaz]

Well, theoretically, he could just extend the design and make both. My original suggestion would just be a simple upgrade for the THOUSANDS of basic Mags/Minimags floating around that don't use the RTP length rail.

True. Good points.

I'm just hoping this is coming at some point. His Facebook page is all about the cocker gas thru grips ... Hopefully once he's done with that, we can see some firemags being made.

[Nobody]

I've never seen one aside from this thread, so maybe not.

As an aside, I wish Nummech would do something relatively simple and just re-create the old Omega rails for standard AM/MM bodies. Those guns are never going away, and the Omega rail is still sought after, almost 20 years later, as probably the best looking standard length mag rail ever made. Why not just make them again?

You realize that copying a rail is not as easy as you think. Besides the fact that permission is needed to use the design, that Andy is more in line with creative and original designs of his own, not some copy that is well unremarkable. Plus Numech is about new designs and we all want new designs.

[going_home]

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2905/14122811988_e3ecf9ef68_z.jpg

Wasn't that an RPG rail ?


:confused:

[wetwrks]

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2905/14122811988_e3ecf9ef68_z.jpg

Wasn't that an RPG rail ?


:confused:

Yes...that is an RPG rail...but not an Omega rail.

[mobsterboy]

I still want one of those Thrasher rails :( It's on the backburner for me for now though. I guess not many were made so finding one is going to be challenging.

[wetwrks]

I still want one of those Thrasher rails :( It's on the backburner for me for now though. I guess not many were made so finding one is going to be challenging.

Thrasher and Dallara are my 2 most favorite rails.

[going_home]

Tunarail and wave rail are my all time favorites.

IMHO the wave rail looks the best with a tac one body.

;)

[AnthonyW]

Wow almost a year old & first time I’ve seen the Firemag [emoji91] body, I most Definitely WANT one!!!!


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[TheRealKaz]

Wow almost a year old & first time I’ve seen the Firemag [emoji91] body, I most Definitely WANT one!!!!


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I've been doing some creeping on nummech's Facebook page about the firemag. Nummech said "It'll be on the plate when the cocker frames are finally done."

[AnthonyW]

I've been doing some creeping on nummech's Facebook page about the firemag. Nummech said "It'll be on the plate when the cocker frames are finally done."

Well this is good news. Hell wit them cocker parts anyhow plenty of that being made......


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[TheRealKaz]

The last couple posts are saying the cocker frames are finally getting done .. soooo firemag like next spring maybe.... Possibly... Kinda?

[AnthonyW]

The last couple posts are saying the cocker frames are finally getting done .. soooo firemag like next spring maybe.... Possibly... Kinda?

I hope not I might forget & miss the boat


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[Bunny]

Not enough pictures in this thread!! :headbang:

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170519/60e016eb9b8f11cdf040982552adf9b5.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170519/9aacc690c97557c582d981fe49ec1e51.jpg

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170519/30864c413bd8172cf8111a019c433993.jpg

[TheRealKaz]

Sweet!!!!! I take it the one on the right is a non-functional prototype... It looks sweet.

[ElGringo]

so much AWESOME in that picture. I want one of each

[Nobody]

Sweet!!!!! I take it the one on the right is a non-functional prototype... It looks sweet.

Nope, Andy, i believe didn't have time to finish the gun because of the Legends game. He did shoot the FireMag that weekend.

[TheRealKaz]

Nope, Andy, i believe didn't have time to finish the gun because of the Legends game. He did shoot the FireMag that weekend.

Yeah I watched his video on YouTube. Is the second body functional then????.. It looks so cool....

[Ydna]

Those bodies are indeed functional, but they use the wrong kind of detents. :nono: I went ahead and updated that quirk, and we also made a TON of actual detents for use with these bodies (among others). The detents are requirement for new bodies anyway so at least that's out of the way.

Here's another picture :shooting:
http://www.zdspb.com/media/agd/nummechbodies1.jpg
Please note (for anyone that didn't realize it already) the Nummech frames seen in all these body pictures were old prototypes that are slightly different than the ones sold currently. The trigger guard and ASA are very different.

ANYWAY yeah as you already mentioned, the only thing holding back these and other bodies is the need for more blanks. And the thing holding that back is this huge batch of cocker frames. The good news is those frames are FINALLY being completed (like 98% done) so we're gearing up for a couple quick restock parts then it's time for bodies for both mag and cocker. I don't know when they'll be done but hopefully before summer. Probably not before LL though.

Also on the plate is those pesky N-Mag pneumag parts that are still in limbo, and also more of our Cocker foregrips which are essentially compatible with RT rail (and unibodies) with just a different screw hole pattern. Those will probably need to be done for the bodies too. So it's gonna be a busy couple months...

[Ff33gfd]

Man I'm so ready for these bodies to be completed so I can add nummech mag builds to my collection. Thanks for bringing something fresh.

[Walking Stick]

YES!!! Necro unibody with Skeleton foregrip (the one shown on your Cockers with multiple lengths), deep N-Mag frame and EF trigger for me please! Out of curiosity, any plans to make a 3rd Mag body option like the Edge-style or something as yet unrevealed?

[going_home]

I can see how the macro fitting attached to to frame might bother some right handed people, slightly in the way.

[captian pinky]

I can see how the macro fitting attached to to frame might bother some right handed people, slightly in the way.

Then they can run it with macro straight to the valve like the rest of the their mags.

[TheRealKaz]

I can see how the macro fitting attached to to frame might bother some right handed people, slightly in the way.

It's tucked up pretty darn high.. I don't touch or notice the fittings at all. Maybe if you had huge hands.... Like shaq size...

[Apathetic_Chaos]

Thrasher and Dallara are my 2 most favorite rails.I agree with you. Thrasher rail is the top of my list.

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[AnthonyW]

I agree with you. Thrasher rail is the top of my list.

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Most definitely want a Thrasher Rail myself, such a badass design


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[TheRealKaz]

Well Ynda is hoping before summer... Looks like that's when my new mag build starts.... Haha

[dahoeb]

That is some serious milling, gorgeous...can't wait to see what people do for custom ano on them.

[JimBobFett]

That is some serious milling, gorgeous...can't wait to see what people do for custom ano on them.

I was thinking a 2-color rub of an orange base with sky blue (gulf livery colors)... so the edges will rub and be blue and all the insides will be orange. Then a few white accent parts to set it off.

Then for #2 (Yes, I'm down for 2 pyromags, a necromag if ever made public, and multiple pyrocockers in fullblock, midblock, and rudy-dean-block)... silver base with copper rub finish.

Due to the milling, rubs are going to be the best option to really show it off.

[Walking Stick]

Due to the milling, rubs are going to be the best option to really show it off.

Or a satin light rose with gloss blood tips...

[Apathetic_Chaos]

Or a satin light rose with gloss blood tips...Yes!

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[dahoeb]

I think even a routine, proper acid wash in grey/orange, black/orange, or with red instead of orange would be sexy in dust or gloss.

[TheRealKaz]

I think even a routine, proper acid wash in grey/orange, black/orange, or with red instead of orange would be sexy in dust or gloss.

I think an acid wash would look so good.

[Bunny]

100739

Here is the drivers side picture showing the milling over the valve.

Btw, spoke with boss lady. Have the okay for 2 more builds :-)

[Nobody]

But Bunny, they are not rare builds or Xmags. What are you doing?

[maniacmechanic]

show us the red and black one

[captian pinky]

show us the red and black one

I think that one is an axe.

[Bunny]

That is correct. I just looked in my photo library. I didn't even bother to take a picture. lol. Really shows where my passion is :p

[Ydna]

Just to give a few ideas, here's a red/orange Axe done by Caustic...
http://www.zdspb.com/media/customwork/numaxe/fireaxe30424946.jpg

Here's a "lava" theme from Aesthetic:
http://www.zdspb.com/media/customwork/numaxe/fireaxe367838949.jpg

I've seen a few other red/orange/yellow patterns but haven't personally seen anything involving an "ice flame" but I think that would be friggen awesome looking. With the detail of the high-end ano shops out there, they can do some crazy stuff while still preserving the milling. Personally I'm planning to do a pyro in white/grey wash one of these days.

Here's that Necroaxe if you wish to see. The design is older and a little less refined, requiring a larger chunk of material. For the Mag body and other future bodies with similar patterns, I wanted to streamline the bones and make the whole thing easier to manufacture. That's how we got to the current design which is on the Mag form.
http://www.zdspb.com/media/customwork/numaxe/necroaxe1518.jpg

[Bunny]

Andy just posted this pic on Facebook. Looks like they are in the queue!!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20190421/d049b82e450224e1197991a409c1df56.jpg

[Xazhe]

Wow, i am going to end up spending all my money on new bodies and have no money to play

[captian pinky]

Hopefully i can get a matching pyro mag to go with my pyro cocker. Andy makes some cool stuff.

[Gundam V]

Wow, i am going to end up spending all my money on new bodies and have no money to playI remember saying that in another post, I have a feeling that next month will be the only time I have to play. I'll be too broke cause of all the body options being released, but as someone said, at least pretty mag builds will be had.

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[mobsterboy]

Hopefully i can get a matching pyro mag to go with my pyro cocker. Andy makes some cool stuff.

One would think a Firemag would look good as a colorful annodizing endeavor. And what luck, he will sell them to you raw :p

[captian pinky]

One would think a Firemag would look good as a colorful annodizing endeavor. And what luck, he will sell them to you raw :p

so far i think i prefer them as black.

[BigEvil]

so far i think i prefer them as black.

Tequila sunrise fade with a matching valve , nummech frame and barrel :o

[mobsterboy]

Tequila sunrise fade with a matching valve , nummech frame and barrel :o

See now this man knows what's up!

[BigEvil]

See now this man knows what's up!

That's cus im BigEvil

[Tunaman]

Tequila sunrise fade with a matching valve , nummech frame and barrel :o

I hope your re-annoed valve works when you get it back...:D

[captian pinky]

I hope your re-annoed valve works when you get it back...:D

lol

[BigEvil]

I hope your re-annoed valve works when you get it back...:D

I got this raw one sitting right here on my bench....

[knownothingmags]

Yeah that's what happens when they strip the anno[emoji14]

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[mobsterboy]

I got this raw one sitting right here on my bench....

They call it "show and tell" for a reason ;)

[Ydna]

I actually made some minor adjustments to the design in between the prototype and now. Of interest here, the milled fire spines surrounding the "X" engraving have been adjusted so that more of the engraving is visible. It still overlaps around the bottom edges a little, but I wanted to change it to ensure most of the original AGD markings could be seen, and dare I say accented at the same time :) so all us plebs with normal X-valves won't have to suffer...as much

[Gundam V]

I actually made some minor adjustments to the design in between the prototype and now. Of interest here, the milled fire spines surrounding the "X" engraving have been adjusted so that more of the engraving is visible. It still overlaps around the bottom edges a little, but I wanted to change it to ensure most of the original AGD markings could be seen, and dare I say accented at the same time :) so all us plebs with normal X-valves won't have to suffer...as muchWhen you get a chance please post some pics or screenshots of the design. Imagining it is one thing, seeing it is always better. [emoji16]

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[Ydna]

Indeed!
http://www.zdspb.com/media/customwork/nmag/firemag185048.jpg

In that picture you can also see the new foregrip gap, and the altered milling around the barrel which is further asymmetrical compared to the opposite side.

[going_home]

Colors that will be available ?

Any idea on what the price will be ?

[Gundam V]

After next month, I won't be playing paintball till sometime next year. Luke's armada (will be going to anodizer shortly), xmt body run, now this...... I just became penniless. What ever extra funds I had just went to mag builds. [emoji23][emoji23][emoji1787][emoji23][emoji23][emoji1787][emoji24][emoji24][emoji24][emoji24]

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[Gundam V]

As a side note, when does this go on sale again? Also, will this be a limited run? This looks so nice, thanks for the pics.

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[dwn0414]

So, no rail. Proprietary grip. Got any pics of the grip for it?

[going_home]

Wait, you have to use a proprietary front foregrip with this unibody ?

That would be disappointing.

[alpha_q_up23]

I like that emag users will have a cool little window to look through

[Ydna]

Foregrips are a tricky thing since there isn't a standardized mounting method. I was able to include two options...there's a 1/4"-20 threaded hole coming up from the underside that could be used for a VASA, and there's also a pair of #10 clearance screw holes going down from the top, which uses the same dimensions as the RT Pro brackets (0.650" between holes).
I'm going to make some dummy foregrips in a similar vein as the ones from my N-autococker frames except made for the RT Pro pattern, so they could be used for these bodies or other similar ones. Those will come later though.

Most of our bodies are available as black gloss by default, but raw will also be available for the custom builders.

I still need to make the little steel rings that go inside, so that's the ultimate bottleneck for getting these totally ready to ship out. I'm going to start those next week hopefully. The bodies will come with the steel ring along with a pair of detents (our new rebuildables). You'll need an Empire-spec feedneck for it, and of course we have that too, but I don't want to limit people to that one in particular in case you prefer a different one.

[knownothingmags]

Foregrips are a tricky thing since there isn't a standardized mounting method. I was able to include two options...there's a 1/4"-20 threaded hole coming up from the underside that could be used for a VASA, and there's also a pair of #10 clearance screw holes going down from the top, which uses the same dimensions as the RT Pro brackets (0.650" between holes).
I'm going to make some dummy foregrips in a similar vein as the ones from my N-autococker frames except made for the RT Pro pattern, so they could be used for these bodies or other similar ones. Those will come later though.

Most of our bodies are available as black gloss by default, but raw will also be available for the custom builders.

I still need to make the little steel rings that go inside, so that's the ultimate bottleneck for getting these totally ready to ship out. I'm going to start those next week hopefully. The bodies will come with the steel ring along with a pair of detents (our new rebuildables). You'll need an Empire-spec feedneck for it, and of course we have that too, but I don't want to limit people to that one in particular in case you prefer a different one.

ring with C-clip(AGD way),
or
a steel cup with a threaded hole in the bottom of the body for a setscrew to hold the steel cup from falling out?(XMT way)

[dwn0414]

When are the rebuildable detents going to be on the website?

[Bunny]

Can't wait to see the finished product!!

[Fred]

I was super excited for this, since it's gorgeous.

Then I saw your post on FB about the other 2 designs...

[Ydna]

Yeah I have too many to make...probably gonna run out of blanks ahead of schedule. I also wanted to make the blanks available for other people...I'll almost definitely need to make more.


ring with C-clip(AGD way), or a steel cup with a threaded hole in the bottom of the body for a setscrew to hold the steel cup from falling out? (XMT way)
It's more similar to the XMT bodies by that description. There's a little set screw on the bottom of the body that keeps the new ring from coming loose.


When are the rebuildable detents going to be on the website?
I made different versions (cocker, angel, SP, etc) but the trouble is I ran into an issue with the SP-threaded versions and they need to be re-cut. The AGD ones are ready to go right now, black or silver. You could pick some up with a direct if you'd like, send an email to sales@nummech.com :)

[Bunny]

Yeah I have too many to make...probably gonna run out of blanks ahead of schedule. I also wanted to make the blanks available for other people...I'll almost definitely need to make more.


It's more similar to the XMT bodies by that description. There's a little set screw on the bottom of the body that keeps the new ring from coming loose.


I made different versions (cocker, angel, SP, etc) but the trouble is I ran into an issue with the SP-threaded versions and they need to be re-cut. The AGD ones are ready to go right now, black or silver. You could pick some up with a direct if you'd like, send an email to sales@nummech.com :)

Sent you an e-mail this weekend. By the way, any update with those xmag parts I sent you :ninja:

[captian pinky]

Sent you an e-mail this weekend. By the way, any update with those "xmag" parts I sent you :ninja:

I wanted to buy that, but couldnt justify it. I know it went to a good home.

[going_home]

When are the rebuildable detents going to be on the website?

http://www.nummech.com/prod_item_detentv2.html

Now !

;)

[Bunny]

Hey, somewhat unrelated note....

could someone bug Andy for me? He has a few of my parts and communication has gone downhill over the past few months. I sent him emails every few weeks with no response and tried to message on Facebook. I’m wondering if someone could try and track him down for me.

Any movement on this would be appreciated!! (If I can track him down I’ll delete this post.)

[captian pinky]

I buzzed the bat phone....

[Bunny]

I buzzed the bat phone....

It worked. Thx!

[jbtamu1011]

It worked. Thx!

Sorry to hijack, hijack, but I've been having a hard time getting an email reply from Andy as well from Nummech. He said I could get a flush trigger guard and told me how much. I said that would be great, what do I need to do? Nothing since then. I hope everything is alright.

[captian pinky]

He just stays very very busy. so he can forget things from time to time. sent him a message.

[jbtamu1011]

He just stays very very busy. so he can forget things from time to time. sent him a message.

Thanks captian pinky.

[Flame]

Have there been any updates on this? Would love to pick up a
raw PyroMag body.