Evo Body back from anno

[BigEvil]

Evo body just got back from anno. I was planning something a little nicer than just 'dust black', however, to my horror there was an additional $100 charge to remove the tooling marks. Mario from FX Anno handled it for me and I must say it (and the couple of other parts I sent) came out spectacularly.

[cougar20th]

Looks good

[knownothingmags]

I like it

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[going_home]

He did mine gloss.

The tooling marks were terrible.

Guess mine paved the way for the price.

He already knew how much time was involved.

Yours looks great, I'd say it's more a satin than dust.

[Tunaman]

That would look sweet with the matching Dust anno Xvalves I have...:D

[BigEvil]

That would look sweet with the matching Dust anno Xvalves I have...:D

First things first. :)

[TwilightG]

I bet it would look awesome with a new X-Frame.

[BigEvil]

So my dust black Xvalve doesnt line up straight in this thing and I cant get the effen field strip screw in.

[knownothingmags]

Oh damn.

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[luke]

to my horror there was an additional $100 charge to remove the tooling marks.

Probably be cheaper just to tighten up the finish passes. ;)

[going_home]

So my dust black Xvalve doesnt line up straight in this thing and I cant get the effen field strip screw in.

Did you take pics and contact Jay ?

[BigEvil]

Im driving to cpx.right now

[going_home]

Im driving to cpx.right now

Tell Doug to quiet down.


;)

[Nobody]

Tell Doug to quiet down.


;)

No, i was driving and Scott was posting. He is fine with me, no complaints....

[going_home]

No, i was driving and Scott was posting. He is fine with me, no complaints....

Make up my mind.

Really having 2nd thoughts about going to Tunaball in August.

I don't play paintball in August down here because it's too hot.


:eek:

[Nobody]

You are old enough to make up your own mind, you need no help from any one.

If it is too much for you then so be it.

[going_home]

You are old enough to make up your own mind, you need no help from any one.

If it is too much for you then so be it.


Such a profundity ......

[BigEvil]

Ugh.. I HAD TO DO THIS TO THE ZLOCK "AREA" (IT'S NOT A GROOVE) TO MAKE THE VALVES FIT RIGHT. I WANT TO SMASH SOMEONE IN THE FACE WITH AN AX RIGHT NOW.

[knownothingmags]

So what happened?

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[luke]

Ugh.. I HAD TO DO THIS TO THE ZLOCK "AREA" (IT'S NOT A GROOVE) TO MAKE THE VALVES FIT RIGHT. I WANT TO SMASH SOMEONE IN THE FACE WITH AN AX RIGHT NOW.

Dammitman! I probably would have opted to grind the pin off.

[knownothingmags]

Oh I read it again ef that. Is that a machining issue or ..... can you explain the issue for the people not in the know.?
I already know of course

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[BigEvil]

Dammitman! I probably would have opted to grind the pin off.

Im not grinding anything off of a Dust Black Tuna Emax valve. None of my valves fit.. I was hoping this was a fluke or something.

[Menace_AO]

Oh I read it again ef that. Is that a machining issue or ..... can you explain the issue for the people not in the know.?
I already know of course



Well, somebody do tell. Looks like the z lock step was missed in the machining process?


As for grinding off valve pins, goodness, no. They are removable.

[going_home]

Well, somebody do tell. Looks like the z lock step was missed in the machining process?


As for grinding off valve pins, goodness, no. They are removable.


Looks like its too late for that now.....

[knownothingmags]

I'm kinda sad

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[BigEvil]

Z. Locks are barbed. They don't come out

[Menace_AO]

Ah.

Did not know that. The old roll pins in the classics come out and go back very easily. Figured the newer style did the same, but in a different way.

[luke]

Was it lacking a channel or was the alignment off?

It's hard to tell in the picture if there's room, but another option would have been just to machine a new groove. (Or fix it, whatever the case.) ;)

A few minutes on a mill and you can clean that up, then do a black oxide touch-up to hide the raw aluminum. >> https://www.birchwoodcasey.com/Refinishing/Metal-Finishing/Aluminum-Black-Touch-Up.aspx

[maniacmechanic]

were all of them like this ?? ,, haven't seem anyone else post about it

[barkingspider]

Here is a picture of mine. I didn't have any trouble with mine, but it appears you didn't even have a channel to begin with.

http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g474/barkingspider2/2A63F804-FFB7-4583-80E3-C6B9BC40A70F_zps1gft0etg.jpg (http://s1103.photobucket.com/user/barkingspider2/media/2A63F804-FFB7-4583-80E3-C6B9BC40A70F_zps1gft0etg.jpg.html)
http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g474/barkingspider2/6942C77F-2EE5-4CF3-9E35-7D405A181911_zpsaoxgssyo.jpg (http://s1103.photobucket.com/user/barkingspider2/media/6942C77F-2EE5-4CF3-9E35-7D405A181911_zpsaoxgssyo.jpg.html)
http://i1103.photobucket.com/albums/g474/barkingspider2/22ECEB1E-8CA9-48E4-8399-1308342D15A4_zpsehrdu7if.jpg (http://s1103.photobucket.com/user/barkingspider2/media/22ECEB1E-8CA9-48E4-8399-1308342D15A4_zpsehrdu7if.jpg.html)

[renie]

Defintlty Looks like you had no channel?

[Tunaman]

Z. Locks are barbed. They don't come outKnurled...not barbed. And they do come out ;)

[BigEvil]

Knurled...not barbed. And they do come out ;)

Well, then you are going to have to show me that trick.. on one of your valves :)

[BigEvil]

Defintlty Looks like you had no channel?

It did, it wasn't deep enough. I don't know why it didn't have a to-spec zlock grove.

[Beemer]

The z lock is a fail safe. The pin is use less in that body.

[renie]

The z lock also isn't effective on the xmag bodies either

[Tunaman]

The z lock also isn't effective on the xmag bodies either

Yes it is effective. It will stop the reg halves from unscrewing...same as that Evo body will.

[knownothingmags]

The z lock also isn't effective on the xmag bodies either

you are thinking of the SFL xmags

[Tunaman]

you are thinking of the SFL xmags

yes. and they had a set screw to stop the reg from turning.;)

[knownothingmags]

yes. and they had a set screw to stop the reg from turning.;)
Exactly

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[renie]

Unscrewing yes I thought you meant releasing outwards like the catch design on a rail

[awo702]

Why would you
u panic and do that???


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[BigEvil]

Why would you
u panic and do that???


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Yeah, I guess I don't know what I am doing.

[knownothingmags]

yeah, i guess i don't know what i am doing.

yeah jeez!!! Read the manual.

[going_home]

yeah jeez!!! Read the manual.

That stuff is for the women....

[going_home]

I just picked up another Evo.

Tried two different Xvalves, this body has the same issue, but with one valve its worse than the other.

At least I saw this thread and knew to test it before anodizing .... thank you.



:confused:

[luke]

Too late for BE but for anyone else having issues, instead of machining it all the way back why not just machine/file a small cut out like this>
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii405/mtumbleson/Evo%20Body_zps0f7ajlxn.jpg (http://s550.photobucket.com/user/mtumbleson/media/Evo%20Body_zps0f7ajlxn.jpg.html)

[Tunaman]

Too late for BE but for anyone else having issues, instead of machining it all the way back why not just machine/file a small cut out like this>
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii405/mtumbleson/Evo%20Body_zps0f7ajlxn.jpg (http://s550.photobucket.com/user/mtumbleson/media/Evo%20Body_zps0f7ajlxn.jpg.html)I seriously pray that is not nicks I see on that valve...:mad:

[BigEvil]

I seriously pray that is not nicks I see on that valve...:mad:


Yeah they are. Get me a new one. :p

[Chris TS-1438]

If I had a Tuna-Valve I probably would not play paintball with it...

Correct me if I am mistaken. But when I think of how pressure release happens when air vents, and also think about how a projectile works...I have trouble believing that the danger is that great if the reg unscrews. I guess maybe if it was hanging on by a thread and built pressure it might pop off, but without a chamber from the back of the valve to compress in and push it backward (I guess into the paintballer's noodle) the air would choose the path of least resistance and release vertically. I have never fully understood why this is such a great concern. Is it actually of great concern to the operator? Or is the equipment in the most danger? Obviously it would not be a good thing, I get that. It could nick your fishy x valve.

[Nobody]

If I had a Tuna-Valve I probably would not play paintball with it...

Correct me if I am mistaken. But when I think of how pressure release happens when air vents, and also think about how a projectile works...I have trouble believing that the danger is that great if the reg unscrews. I guess maybe if it was hanging on by a thread and built pressure it might pop off, but without a chamber from the back of the valve to compress in and push it backward (I guess into the paintballer's noodle) the air would choose the path of least resistance and release vertically. I have never fully understood why this is such a great concern. Is it actually of great concern to the operator? Or is the equipment in the most danger? Obviously it would not be a good thing, I get that. It could nick your fishy x valve.

Negative ghost rider...

Air will release in its easiest path, but depending on where, that is how you can get a rocket from the valve. The z lock and the field strip screw hold the valve in place, forcing the air to go out the valve down the barrel. Without them there, you have the valve acting like a rocket, and the momentum of the air releasing will be just like a cork lifting out of the champagne bottle.

[Chris TS-1438]

I want to see it happen... And don't call me ghost rider.

How much pressure is in the valve? The mass of the valve and the small amount of space it has to contain pressurized air. I wouldn't think it would have that much force.:confused:

[luke]

:PopCorn:

[going_home]

I want to see it happen... And don't call me ghost rider.

How much pressure is in the valve? The mass of the valve and the small amount of space it has to contain pressurized air. I wouldn't think it would have that much force.:confused:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DFWTBM4sJHA

[Chris TS-1438]

If I'm anyone...I am Ice Man...I think I'm the best but I'm not. But at least I don't hook up with the manly Chick.
Goose would not have died if he had a z-lock on his valve...poor bastard.

[Tunaman]

Yeah they are. Get me a new one. :p

Butcher!

[going_home]

Too late for BE but for anyone else having issues, instead of machining it all the way back why not just machine/file a small cut out like this>
http://i550.photobucket.com/albums/ii405/mtumbleson/Evo%20Body_zps0f7ajlxn.jpg (http://s550.photobucket.com/user/mtumbleson/media/Evo%20Body_zps0f7ajlxn.jpg.html)


How would I do that, with a drill ?

[blackdeath1k]

How would I do that, with a drill ?

Small half moon file.

[luke]

How would I do that, with a drill ?

Use a round file or a dremmel or better yet send it back to XMT and have him machine it. ;)

If you opt to go with the notch, check and make sure your air fitting will clear the body when you swivel it into place. It looks like it will work but I would double check.

Design wise I would prefer the notch to it being machined out the back. ;)

[BigEvil]

Butcher!

That valve is older than my son.

[ElPanda]

you can remove the toolmarks on your own, no need to get charged 100 dollars, go to home depot and spend like 20 bucks on some sandpaper and scotch brite, put on a movie or some music and give it some elbow grease

or I'm sure Simon would have let you use the tumbler Scott, that's what I did with the Nocturnal rails I had, makes polishing them super easy, the anodizer loves you for it because it makes polishing go super fast.

edit: jesus, some of those are pretty...pronounced, better make that a few movies

[Nobody]

you can remove the toolmarks on your own, no need to get charged 100 dollars, go to home depot and spend like 20 bucks on some sandpaper and scotch brite, put on a movie or some music and give it some elbow grease

or I'm sure Simon would have let you use the tumbler Scott, that's what I did with the Nocturnal rails I had, makes polishing them super easy, the anodizer loves you for it because it makes polishing go super fast.

edit: jesus, some of those are pretty...pronounced, better make that a few movies

Justin, Simon had already seen it and said it would loose too much detail in the tumbler.

[BigEvil]

Mario from Fx was good enough to give mw detailed information and info. After 20 mins I said f it and sent it to him. :)

[Bunny]

Have we isolated this issue yet? I just sold off my Evo body, but if I remember correctly it did have a channel. Does anyone else have this issue or was this a one-off issue?

[going_home]

It has the channel but the valve won't spin far enough to get the thumb screw in.

Just glad he posted this thread before I had it anodized.

;)

[wetwrks]

Mine fits but is tight. Only tried it with one x-valve

[renie]

I've tried 3 different ones and all have been fine, definitely worth checking before any anno work is carried out,

I also got mine anodized before I checked though.

[Dirge]

Just checked. Have some work to do :(

[dano_____]

I bought one from Renie and had 2 different xvalves in it without problems. May have been an error on some bodies.

[Jay419]

I still own it dano_____. Make that 3 Xvalves without a problem.