We need new foregrips

[BigEvil]

Is it just me, or is the AGD line in desperate need of some new, nicer foregrip options?

[Patron God of Pirates]

This x 10

[captian pinky]

Messaging Andy now!!!!

[audioSLAVE]

This is way overdue. Any foregrip on an RT length rail looks like an after thought and awkward with the huge gap between the frame and the length of the rail. The Venomous Designs foregrip remedied that to some degree, but we all know where that went. Would be great to see something aesthetically pleasing and functional for both am/mm and RT length rails.

[Tunaman]

I say bring back the RT classic foregrip. Best one ever made. Swivels too.

[luke]

This is way overdue. Any foregrip on an RT length rail looks like an after thought and awkward with the huge gap between the frame and the length of the rail. The Venomous Designs foregrip remedied that to some degree, but we all know where that went. Would be great to see something aesthetically pleasing and functional for both am/mm and RT length rails.

Come up with a design that satisfies everyone and I'll manufacture it. If I sell 100 I'll give you a free one for your design. :D:p:)

[audioSLAVE]

Come up with a design that satisfies everyone and I'll manufacture it. If I sell 100 I'll give you a free one for your design. :D:p:)

This would be fun, and challenging as far as coming up with something the majority would like. Let me get some ideas together for you. Do I get to name it? ;)

[luke]

This would be fun, and challenging as far as coming up with something the majority would like. Let me get some ideas together for you. Do I get to name it? ;)

Sure you can name it. :)

[GoatBoy]

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[going_home]

Hard to beat the stick grip.

Gas thru preferred, never was a fan of the VD grip.....

[luke]

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lol

[vintage]

i like the Bike grip and the rt classic both.

[TwilightG]

back in the day, Jay/Cerberus made a bunch of interesting foregrips. I never had the chance to own one myself but they sure looked cool.

Didn't Cougar design something w/ finger grooves a while back? Those would definitely complement the KAM86 frame nicely :)

[ScottyBeans]

This is way overdue. Any foregrip on an RT length rail looks like an after thought and awkward with the huge gap between the frame and the length of the rail. The Venomous Designs foregrip remedied that to some degree, but we all know where that went. Would be great to see something aesthetically pleasing and functional for both am/mm and RT length rails.

I feel like Luke and some others make great ones for am/mm length already, but you hit the nail on the head with the RT length comment. It'd be cool to see a rail and foregrip designed for each other to look smooth with an intelliframe.

Also, I think foregrips in general should be shorter. I have a bike grip and I feel like it could easily be 2" shorter and still comfortable. The super tall ones look funny to me.

[cougar20th]

back in the day, Jay/Cerberus made a bunch of interesting foregrips. I never had the chance to own one myself but they sure looked cool.

Didn't Cougar design something w/ finger grooves a while back? Those would definitely complement the KAM86 frame nicely :)

Yup I did, Very few people seemed to like it so I shelved it. Still have the files.

[bowcycle]

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I need this. Why did you do this to me?!

[luke]

Come up with a design that satisfies everyone and I'll manufacture it. If I sell 100 :rofl: I'll give you a free one for your design. :D:p:)


Yup I did, Very few people seemed to like it so I shelved it.

Exactly. ;)

[BigEvil]

Oh, and can we has anno too plz. ok thanks

[GoatBoy]

I need this. Why did you do this to me?!

Hold on, there's an upgrade...

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[Tunaman]

Hold on, there's an upgrade...

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You could take that foregrip and put it on one of those Space Dill Doe looking paintguns and go behind the bushes and have a blast...NOT! :tard::D

[D3adpool]

Goatboy, you can't give away all the goodies now. Sell them on v1 today then 6 months later come out with v2 with the pic rails!

[TwilightG]

Yup I did, Very few people seemed to like it so I shelved it. Still have the files.

Post a pic? I dont' feel like looking for it :p

[Nobody]

Post a pic? I dont' feel like looking for it :p

Post a pic cause i may not have been around for it... :D

[cougar20th]

Post a pic? I dont' feel like looking for it :p

Ill dig it out tomorrow. That's going back to 2009 archives

[Cyco-Dude]

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this made me laugh. :P

[smallerfreeze]

Hold on, there's an upgrade...

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classic.. could we get rawbutter to rig up some pneummatics so they spin with each trigger pull?

[bowcycle]

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"Game on in 3...2..."
Flick, Spin, Run...
pew, pew, pew...

Yes, I definitely need one.

[Spider-TW]

Hold on, there's an upgrade...

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I want four lobes on my spinners.

[Tunaman]

classic.. could we get rawbutter to rig up some pneummatics so they spin with each trigger pull?

and a spin counter too!:tard:

[GoatBoy]

Well, this next bit isn’t so much an upgrade as it is merging in other parts.

A while back I made a Nato rail camera mount out of flexible filament:

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Which would be compatible with the tactical rail accessory for the Fidget Foregrip:

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The utility of such a thing should be obvious:

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A 608 bearing is 22mm OD so there’s quite a lot of space to work with in there.

I think it would be possible to add in a torsion spring from a badgeholder along with a one-way needle bearing and you’d essentially have a wind-up fidget spinner.

Doing the spin count would be more tricky, but… I’m betting a CD ROM outrunner motor is 22mm OD or less...

[going_home]

Too heavy.

Needs to be ULE'd....


;)

[Laku]

[emoji23]

[Arstron]

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If someone built it, for *insert electro of the month* sadly it would sell way to good.

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[Spider-TW]

Well, this next bit isn’t so much an upgrade as it is merging in other parts.

A while back I made a Nato rail camera mount out of flexible filament:

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Which would be compatible with the tactical rail accessory for the Fidget Foregrip:

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The utility of such a thing should be obvious:

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A 608 bearing is 22mm OD so there’s quite a lot of space to work with in there.

I think it would be possible to add in a torsion spring from a badgeholder along with a one-way needle bearing and you’d essentially have a wind-up fidget spinner.

Doing the spin count would be more tricky, but… I’m betting a CD ROM outrunner motor is 22mm OD or less...

Pre-orders?

[zulubravo44]

Pre-orders?

my only question is whether it comes with or without the spinners pre-installed. not sure i could handle the kinda heavy lifting it would take to rip them out of hand and mount onto foregrip.

this thread made my day.

[bowcycle]

Order thread for v1?
If we get to 100pcs, Luke will make them if GB doesn't want to and GB still gets a free one.

[rawbutter]

On a more serious note......

Do people want an all-aluminum foregrip, or a mix of aluminum and rubber, like the old RT foregrip? The mix would be my preference.

What about something like the foregrip on this mag (https://photos.app.goo.gl/DkbJiziJV92a2m0m1)?

It's not gas-through, obviously. It's just a SRAM rubber bike grip (http://www.ebay.com/itm/SRAM-Replacement-Mountain-Bike-Grip-Shift-Shifter-Grips-fits-MRX-1-Pair-90mm-/222443612116?epid=512336795&hash=item33caac27d4:g:2mwAAOSw37tV~zxj) shoved over an old gutted sledgehammer LPR (http://cdn.baccipaintball.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/800x600/040ec09b1e35df139433887a97daa66f/a/u/aut1987_1.jpg). But I think it would be easy to recreate something similar to the old RT foregrips using something like this. Start with 1" aluminum bar stock....drill the top for a 1/4-20 screw....drill the bottom and a side for 1/8-NPT...shave down the lower part to fit a 7/8" grip...anodize it black...add the rubber grip, and you're good to go.

And if people don't like the little ridge at the top of the grip, there are lots of other options. Like this (https://carpyscaferacers.com/shop/shop-our-store/motorcycle-parts-accessories/honda-cb500-cb550-cb750-parts-upgrades/bottle-grips-black/). Or this (http://www.beachcruiserbikeshop.com/grips-kraton-rubber-0214-bicycle-grips/).

Better yet, why not build the basic grip shape in aluminum but don't include any grip at all? Just make the hand-holding part to be 7/8" (or some other standard bike grip diameter). Then people can jump onto ebay and buy whatever style they like best and glue it on themselves. That way if the SRAM grips are discontinued, the builder isn't left with a bunch of useless aluminum stubs.

[luke]

drill the top for a 1/4-20 screw.

Bad idea to go with the standard Automag mount, the RTP will easily sell 10-1 (likely more) over the AM single screw mount. You can easily slot the AM rail to use the RTP mount.

[Laku]

Honestly, for me if it looks like bike grip I'll pass. Those are just plain ugly.

[TwilightG]

Sadly, I think that the foregrips that Venomous Designs was coming up with was a step in the right direction. Unfortunately, there was a VERY limited production before he disappeared and we never saw the different versions produced.

[wetwrks]

Sadly, I think that the foregrips that Venomous Designs was coming up with was a step in the right direction. Unfortunately, there was a VERY limited production before he disappeared and we never saw the different versions produced.

I would agree. I don't own any that he made but they have always been on my list of wants.

[GoatBoy]

I’m thinking sealed ceramic 608 bearings combined with all stainless steel construction. If there’s space, I might add some cavities and fill them with lead, or whatever dense, toxic, and possibly illegal substance I can get my hands on.

Unsure of the preorder date, but you guys might want to start hitting the gym now so you can lift these bad boys.



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[Chcienne]

Is it just me, or is the AGD line in desperate need of some new, nicer foregrip options?

Bit of a noob question, but why are there no foregrips made to be like real steel firearms like these grips? (http://airsoftdeals.co.uk/grips/)

[going_home]

Bit of a noob question, but why are there no foregrips made to be like real steel firearms like these grips? (http://airsoftdeals.co.uk/grips/)



Because they are ugly and wouldnt sell ?


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[Laku]

Because they are ugly and wouldnt sell ?


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This.

And it wouldn't be that hard to get picatiny/weaver rail and drill and tap that for foregrip attachement.

[Warwitch]

Because they are ugly and wouldnt sell ?


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Disagree. They are not ugly. Which is subjective and debatable. But they already sell millions of them. Because they are very comfortable and work well. Im gonna go out on a limb and say that a Magpul VFG would work fantastic with minor modding.

[luke]

Plastic is for toys. lol

[Warwitch]

Plastic is for toys. lol

Lol, thats ironic considering there are tons of them being used by our own armed forces. #derp #markersaretoys

[going_home]

They fit the look on real steel but not so much on paintball markers....

[luke]

Lol, thats ironic considering there are tons of them being used by our own armed forces.

everything is relative

[Soloextremist]

Bit of a noob question, but why are there no foregrips made to be like real steel firearms like these grips? (http://airsoftdeals.co.uk/grips/)

I cant see this being a foregrip design. More as a mounting option/attachment to the rail. Certainly limited to a military design concept and with the vast number of options already available an actual foregrip of this design wouldn't be feasible. Give me something Ergonomically correct, Light and Damn Sexy. (able to anodize/chrome/to polish or not) Am I asking for to much?

[BIG BOB]

I like the looks of the old lukes customs air through front grip, maybe we can talk to that guy

[OneSelfLost]

I say bring back the RT classic foregrip. Best one ever made. Swivels too.

+1 on that, love those grips!

[jarhead86]

I like the looks of the old lukes customs air through front grip, maybe we can talk to that guy

Yeah if only that guy was around and could talk��
I like Lukes stuff

[jarhead86]

Lol, thats ironic considering there are tons of them being used by our own armed forces. #derp #markersaretoys

Plastic breaks, except pmags, those things are amazing. You would be surprised how much of that stuff is given to us and collects dust during a deployment. Forgrips were a fad, look cool, but do not help accuracy when engaging an actual target.

[going_home]

Yeah if only that guy was around and could talk��
I like Lukes stuff

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I see what you did there.....


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[Warwitch]

Plastic breaks, except pmags, those things are amazing. You would be surprised how much of that stuff is given to us and collects dust during a deployment. Forgrips were a fad, look cool, but do not help accuracy when engaging an actual target.


So the same composite that your AR's pistol grip is made of is suddenly not strong enough for a vertical grip? :confused: Look, I dont care for them on real steel either. But the on something compact like a paintball marker they obviously work. And all Im saying is that there are non-paintball specific foregrips that would work and will stand up to the game.

[GoatBoy]

I use an AFG on my Trracer.

Other users have used them on Automags as well (not mine):

http://i1072.photobucket.com/albums/w380/reepneep/IMG_20140523_221714_zps9b49c0f4.jpg (http://s1072.photobucket.com/user/reepneep/media/IMG_20140523_221714_zps9b49c0f4.jpg.html)

Real-steel equipment doesn't always make sense even in its own domain. Just pick and choose based on what makes sense to you.

And plastic is perfectly fine when used correctly.

[Dawg047]

I think the classic RT grip is my favorite foregrip. I would be down for a re-creation of that. Although, I know molding a rubber foregrip isn't financially feasible.

[zulubravo44]

I use an AFG on my Trracer.



as part of the pump handle? pictures, please.

[GoatBoy]

as part of the pump handle? pictures, please.

Hrm... you can see it in action here:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvQO41CSRDA

I like my hand spacing a little on the closer side so it kind of looks funny hanging off the back but works well for me.

[zulubravo44]

ahhhh. i have one of the old fashioned trracers still laying around. it makes more sense with the rails on the new version.

on a side note, what's that detent you're using? my old fashioned one has a funky spring detent that doesn't work all that well, and this might be a good alternative. that's one of the few things that keeps me from playing with it.

[GoatBoy]

ahhhh. i have one of the old fashioned trracers still laying around. it makes more sense with the rails on the new version.

on a side note, what's that detent you're using? my old fashioned one has a funky spring detent that doesn't work all that well, and this might be a good alternative. that's one of the few things that keeps me from playing with it.

I can't even find pictures of an original Trracer's detent. The Empire one uses Ego detents.

The thing in the video is actually for anti-rollout with super-small paint.

[Menace_AO]

The old Trracers had a spring that ran across the bottom of the breech and served to prevent double feeding.

Mine will still easily prevent .677 and smaller paint from rolling out, but of course, that doesn't help when the ball has been racked home.

Yours in its current configuration would (presumably) not work in those old ones because the bolt face in its forward position sits only .115 or so shy of the breech end of the barrel, putting most of the ball well into the bore.

Pity for the older versions, as this is (like all your other stuff) a great fix for the newer.

[GoatBoy]

I looked at a picture of a body -- is that a leaf spring or a coil spring?

Seems like a really bad design.

[Menace_AO]

Coil spring,

And it definitely ain't the prettiest design, but it is functional enough in use (at least, it has been for me all these years).

Such primitive design features may best be viewed through the lens of charity, bearing in mind their age. It may also help to consider newer, less effective and durable designs that have come along since, and don't have that excuse.

[going_home]

I might be old fashioned but I like the old RPG gas thru stick grips.....


http://i.imgur.com/kt78kE6.jpg

[rawbutter]

I might be old fashioned but I like the old RPG gas thru stick

Agreed, but didn't AGD lose the design somewhere? Or the company that they contracted to do the rubber part is out of business? I forget. I just remember reading somewhere sometime that they're never getting made again. :(

[knownothingmags]

Agreed, but didn't AGD lose the design somewhere? Or the company that they contracted to do the rubber part is out of business? I forget. I just remember reading somewhere sometime that they're never getting made again. :(

I can reproduce the rubber part of the grip. feel shape and everything.
mostly clear types.