LcMP90 - P90 LPR - VASA

[luke]

Coming Soon!
No pre orders.
Uses standard Intelli style triggers.
Trigger pin is a standard dowel pin held in with set screws.
AGD style safety. Everything is identical except it's 1/8" longer. (1/16" per end)
A standard safety will work in a pinch but not ideal.


The LcMP90 is a mechanical frame and comes standard with mounts for the T-Rex and the new P90 LPR.

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The final version has a little more ULE milling on the top side than what is shown here.
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The stripped down frame as shown below weighs 4 ounces.
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Size comparison using grip panels.
The MV frame is about an 1/8" taller than the Intelli frame.
The LcMP90 is about an 1/8" taller than the Emag frame.
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ULE milling
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Video Clip T-Rex, P90 LPR, LcMP90, Retro Valve Test @ 24 CPS

http://videos.weebly.com/uploads/3/5/4/5/35459873/knee_mill_p90_t_rex_test_1_111.mp4

A few pictures of the test setup
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Video Clip LPR Testing

http://videos.weebly.com/uploads/3/5/4/5/35459873/p90_lpr_test_video_941.mp4

A few pictures of the test setup
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[luke]

I'm currently working on the machining programs for these two parts so the prototypes are currently in the works.
I'm posting these with the frame because the plan is to release everything at the same time.

This is the CAD file for the LcMP90 and the P90 LPR
The LP air fitting has a full 'no tool' 360* position adjustment. This is for ease of installation and positioning of the LP hose and fitting.
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The LPR is designed with o-ring seals for the LP air fitting and the 1/8-27 brass fitting mount, NO tape or thread sealer is necessary.
The height of the ASA is the same as the AGD Automag ASA minus the wings, but uses the same screw and spacing as the RTP ASA.
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Click on pictures for larger views.

[mobsterboy]

WTF Luke. My money is supposed to go to helping other separate themselves from their Deadly Wind bodies and rails... Not buying more awesome frames with plans to build a pneumag

[awo702]

Awesome. Been waiting for this. \m/,


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[going_home]

Nice !

[luke]

Nice !

I believe this is what you ask for in the LcE90 frame. ;)

[captian pinky]

are you going to be modding on/offs to go with the sleeper lpr?

[luke]

are you going to be modding on/offs to go with the sleeper lpr?

On/Offs as in On/Off ASA's?

Yes, that will be something I'll have to do initially. I've always opted out of doing the sleeper mods because other members here were doing them. However with the release of these parts I'll need to, but like I said 'initially'. I say that because my next project after these three will be a new ASA designed specifically for this, actually there will likely be two versions/configurations released at the same time. At least those are my loose plans at this stage, nothing is designed just some specific ideas and direction.

[UltraMag527]

Could this be used for the R/T Classic?

[luke]

Could this be used for the R/T Classic?

Kind of but not really because I would have to move the T-Rex forward and the amount it takes to make that adjustment isn't doable with the standard T-Rex mounting location. It would have to be made specifically for the RT and with the low production numbers has always made it difficult to support the product.

[luke]

Could this be used for the R/T Classic?

If you dont want to go with the T-REX the frame can be drilled to use on the RT.

[Gabehcoud]

Great, just great. I was supposed to be saving money for your new z-frame but now I don't know which one I want.... first that is

[Apathetic_Chaos]

I want one

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[luke]

I'm planning on getting started on these after Christmas.

[luke]

I lengthened the VASA to make it more symmetrical

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[Scottprocurot]

When will the LcMP90 be ready

[luke]

When will the LcMP90 be ready


The frame is ready for production, fixtures are made and ready to go, and I have all the materials and tooling, so we're just in a holding pattern at the moment. Before I start that, I need to make the protype LPR so I can test the fitment and the over-all design as it may affect the MP90 and Z-Grip designs. (I'm trying to make this stuff as modular as possible.) That said, the programs are all ready to go on the various LPR pieces, I'm just waiting to get past the holiday to make those parts. Prototyping can be stressful (LOL) and Xmas is just to big of a distraction to start on it. The delays actually worked out perfectly because the Z-Grip initiated some minor changes in the LPR design. All of which was a big improvement for the LPR, VASA, MP90 and the Z grip. :)

It shouldn't be long...

[Scottprocurot]

What will be the cost with out the LPR
AS I just got FG-Lpr from you

[luke]

We can't talk prices in the main forum but it will probably be the same as the MV. ;)

[luke]

Making head way on the LPR, once the prototype is finished and tested I'll knock these frames out.

Here's a few pictures of the LPR prototype, first picture shows the modified 1/8 pipe thread compared to a standard fitting. The P90 LPR works in all 1/8 NPT threaded holes and uses an o-ring seal. If there isn't a flat surface for the oring to seal on you can use thread sealer for those applications.

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Partial assembly, brass fitting with the swivel manifold. Working on the housing next.
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Full assembly drawing
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[luke]

Making some progress, design and machining is dialed in. I still need to machine the MP90 to mount the reg and do the testing, but I should get the machining done tomorrow and get started on testing. When that's done it will go direct to production. This brings both the MP90 and Z2 closer to production, lots of parts to make but we're moving forward. :cheers:

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[bowcycle]

That looks good.
Excited about the Z2 getting closer!

[luke]

Time for testing. :)

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Gas through through frame is done a little differently than what's come before.
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[Apathetic_Chaos]

Looks awesome, I'll definitely have to set aside some tax money for a new toy.

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[awo702]

Oh, damn..


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[Nitroduck]

I realize i'm out of the loop.......a bit.


What's the deal with gas-through-frame? Is there any point other than avoiding micro/macro/SS line?

[luke]

What's the deal with gas-through-frame? Is there any point other than avoiding micro/macro/SS line?

It's just a good place to hide the LPR for those guys that like sleeper frames.

[BLachance75]

Out of curiosity will this LPR be able to fit into a Mini Vert frame or will it be an option on future Mini Verts?

[luke]

will this LPR be able to fit into a Mini Vert frame or will it be an option on future Mini Verts?

As is, no. With some minor adjustments in the current design, maybe. That said though, I probably wouldn't be interested in retro fitting into existing frames anyway, it's easier just to make the changes and run new ones. The bigger issue is the room (Or the lack there of) to get a hex key into the frame to adjust the LPR.

The MP90 is taller than the MV by about 0.45" and there's still not room for a standard hex key. I do have several avenues on the MP90 to deal with it, but it's a much bigger issue on the MV. I considered it during the design process of the LPR but do to geometry limits the final design is what it is and cant really be shortened..

All that said, if you like the MV I think you will also like the MP90. :)

[luke]

The initial testing on the P90 lpr looks good. I'm going to disassemble the reg and re-mic everything to double check the specs, then do more testing, then I'll gear up for production. The hard part is done so I should be able to knock out all the parts then move right to the next project.

:cheers:

[bowcycle]

So it's time to send you our CP direct ASA's?

[luke]

So it's time to send you our CP direct ASA's?

I'll get it posted on my website this weekend.

[BLachance75]

The hard part is done so I should be able to knock out all the parts then move right to the next project.

:cheers:

Pump Kits

[luke]

Pump Kits

I'm easily scheduled 7 projects deep but unfortunately pump kits haven't made the list yet. :(

[Nobody]

The initial testing on the P90 lpr looks good. I'm going to disassemble the reg and re-mic everything to double check the specs, then do more testing, then I'll gear up for production. The hard part is done so I should be able to knock out all the parts then move right to the next project.

:cheers:

This is where i have problems. Why isn't this prototype out in the world, or even having a few case put to it, in real world situations? Sure, the numbers can be right, and your machining could be accurate, but without thoroughly testing something, even having real world figures, you are loosing valuable effort to prove the design. A car maker doesn't think that a new vehicle will work just because they made a few million before hand.

I would gladly put this to the test, since i am surely the most unbiased person here. But that would never happen. Just because it is simple, and the math is right, fits in this frame and you shot it few times does not prove that their aren't potential problems.

[luke]

I've got the testing covered, thanks.

[BLachance75]

I'm easily scheduled 7 projects deep but unfortunately pump kits haven't made the list yet. :(

I keep hoping that if I ask enough the answer will eventually be yes.

[luke]

I keep hoping that if I ask enough the answer will eventually be yes.

Lol, I know. It is on the to do list, just not in the ranking yet. :)

[Nobody]

I've got the testing covered, thanks.

So did British Aerospace with the Comet, Ford with the Corvair, google with google glasses, Apple with the Lisa, just to name a few.

But seriously, you can nor will never find fault with anything you may make, because you are biased. That is not the best way to do husiness. Again, after all, anything i do say, like this is constructive criticism for the betterment of you and your products.

[Patron God of Pirates]

Lol, I know. It is on the to do list, just not in the ranking yet. :)

If you ever do, take a long look at how AGD did theirs with the non circular pump shaft. Pretty well eliminates any wobble and (IMO) looks much better than having 3 rods running out the front.

[luke]

But seriously, you can nor will never find fault with anything you may make, because you are biased. That is not the best way to do husiness. Again, after all, anything i do say, like this is constructive criticism for the betterment of you and your products.

I appreciate your concern, thanks.

[luke]

So I just finished up another round of testing today, here are the numbers.

*67 minute mechanical test (ran on my knee mill)
*Spindle speed is 660 rpm
*Two paddles on the actuator converts to 1320 rpms
*1320 rpms equal 22 cycles per second
*67 minute test time equals 88,440 cycles or 44.22 cases of paint. (I actually ran in excess of 90K off the clock)
*LPR set at about 58 psi input
*LPR running test is 58-52 psi (-6 psi deviation which is tighter than my FG-LPR)

I found zero leaks or hiccups with the LPR, the only issue was with the Fabco MSV2. I had to stop 23 minutes in to oil the valve, a few shots of oil and we were back in business.

Next step is to disassemble and inspect, then move on to the 3rd round of testing.

Here's a short clip of the test>

http://videos.weebly.com/uploads/3/5/4/5/35459873/p90_lpr_test_video_941.mp4

A few pictures of the test setup:
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[Nobody]

I have a feeling that the post above is for my benefit :)

But, only 58psi input? Isn't the job of the LPR to take bottle pressure down to usable or working preasure or is that a typo? Cause the way i understand it, that people will be putting 800psi+ into the LPR and no one wants a failure of over pressurizing their setup, wbether it's the intial gas up or hapfway through the day.

[luke]

58 psi is what the LPR is putting out at a stand still, not input pressure. The pressure gauge between the LPR and the MSV2 is to measure the output air of the regulator not the in coming air. The 58-52 psi shows the recovery rate at 22 cycles per second. 60 psi is typically the highest pressure people run the pneumag setups, I setup the T-Rex about 40 psi. (Lower pressures are faster)

Yes it easily handles all input pressures required by Automag builds.

Yes the post was for you but not the testing itself.

[blamtro]

Luke, this is awesome stuff!

[djinnform]

Wow. This is more exciting than anything on TV. Awesome work Luke. I want one in my Z2.


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[luke]

More testing today...
Based strictly on the math and the motor specs on the knee mill this should be 22 cycles per second. It would be interesting to see what a sound file says. :)
*AGD Retro Valve with RT On/Off
*T-Rex
*P90 LPR
*Ninja Reg set at 925 psi
(LPR set so there's no bounce)

Here's a short clip>

http://videos.weebly.com/uploads/3/5/4/5/35459873/knee_mill_p90_t_rex_test_1_111.mp4

A few pictures of the test setup
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[Patron God of Pirates]

Looks like just a hair shy of 24

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[luke]

Holy cow, thanks PGP!

[barkingspider]

I love watching your creations! Nice work as always

[Apathetic_Chaos]

I'll get it posted on my website this weekend.Does this mod have to be a CP Asa? I was looking at a different ASA to keep a symmetrical look on my gun.

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[luke]

Does this mod have to be a CP Asa? I was looking at a different ASA to keep a symmetrical look on my gun.

No.

The 'hidden LPR' is only an option. You can still run any LPR of your choice, mounted anywhere you like.

I still have the FG-LPR that can be used, my new VASA's can be used with or without the new P90 LPR (Or the reg of your choice).

The MP90 grip frame can also be use without pneumatics.

[Apathetic_Chaos]

No.

The 'hidden LPR' is only an option. You can still run any LPR of your choice, mounted anywhere you like.

I still have the FG-LPR that can be used, my new VASA's can be used with or without the new P90 LPR (Or the reg of your choice).

The MP90 grip frame can also be use without pneumatics.Thanks, I was hoping to do a sleeper pneumag set up once this frame comes out, so I will start saving.

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[luke]

Thanks, I was hoping to do a sleeper pneumag set up once this frame comes out, so I will start saving.

OK so maybe I misunderstood your question, I personally wont be modifying any other ASA's for the sleeper mod and I dont have any idea if there are options for it.
That said, I will be making ASA's this year that will be sleeper ready, but they are down the project list a ways.

[Apathetic_Chaos]

OK so maybe I misunderstood your question, I personally wont be modifying any other ASA's for the sleeper mod and I dont have any idea if there are options for it.
That said, I will be making ASA's this year that will be sleeper ready, but they are down the project list a ways.Ok, I'll still be on the list for this frame and LPR, thanks Luke

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[luke]

Looks like just a hair shy of 24

How big of a hassle is it to run this sound wave test? I've ran a higher cps test and am curious if the system is keeping up or if the paddles are out running the trigger.

[Patron God of Pirates]

How big of a hassle is it to run this sound wave test? I've ran a higher cps test and am curious if the system is keeping up or if the paddles are out running the trigger.

It's super easy. I just exported the audio out of your video, pulled it up in Audacity (free) and zoomed in on a one second period. If you want me to do another one just post it up.

[blamtro]

Luke, are you ready to take my money yet? I just realized I sold my RPG grip and can now justify purchasing of these.

[Apathetic_Chaos]

Luke, are you ready to take my money yet? I just realized I sold my RPG grip and can now justify purchasing of these.Yea, I've got the same question

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[luke]

I haven't decided if I'm going to put up a pre-production sale thread or just put them up for sale when their done, rest assured the project (everything in this thread) is moving forward behind the scenes. :D

[Walking Stick]

I haven't decided if I'm going to put up a pre-production sale thread or just put them up for sale when their done, rest assured the project (everything in this thread) is moving forward behind the scenes. :D

Just sell them when they're good to go. If someone is following the updates but still can't wait, I'm sure they know the alternatives.

Can't wait to see what else you're cooking up after this, the MP90 and the Z2.

[luke]

I can do that, give me a few days...

[awo702]

rest assured the project (everything in this thread) is moving forward behind the scenes. :D
Cant wait.



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[Apathetic_Chaos]

I haven't decided if I'm going to put up a pre-production sale thread or just put them up for sale when their done, rest assured the project (everything in this thread) is moving forward behind the scenes. :DRegardless of which you choose, if there is money in my account for it count me in. I've been waiting on this frame.

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[luke]

Here's the new LPR adjuster screw, much easier to adjust the input pressure in tight spaces. Externally mounted LPR's will ship with a standard set screw adjuster.

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[Hollywood0728]

When will these be available for purchase

[luke]

Very soon!
:cheers:

[Hollywood0728]

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i Sent you a message on your webpage
About possibly milling out a channel on the lower side of
My Evo unibody to run the lp hose from the LPR to the frame
But I’m thinking this might be the easier route.
Your thoughts.

Thanks

[luke]

P90 LPR's are done! Assembled and tested 10 today...

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VASA's are next in line.

:cheers:

[Apathetic_Chaos]

P90 LPR's are done! Assembled and tested 10 today...

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VASA's are next in line.

:cheers:Any idea on how much these will be?


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[luke]

I did price them out today, I'll get them post on my website tomorrow, been a long day.. :)

[Hollywood0728]

When will the new frames be available

[luke]

A few production pictures from this morning (Just for S&G)

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Short video hogging out the frames, cycle time of this program is 25 minutes.

http://videos.weebly.com/uploads/3/5/4/5/35459873/mp90_hog_out_433.mp4

[Hollywood0728]

Standing by PayPal ready!

[luke]

Sale thread is up>>
http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?275259-LcMP90

[luke]

Finished up side two today, still have to do the top cavity and the bottom ASA. (Grips too)
These will be ready to ship PDQ.

:cheers:

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[luke]

I anticipate these will be ready to ship next week, get your order in before then to get the discount.
:cheers:

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[awo702]

These look great! Can’t wait to try mine out.


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[luke]

First customer build with the MP90, thanks awo702 for the picts.
:cheers:

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[awo702]

First customer build with the MP90, thanks awo702 for the picts.
:cheers:]
Thanks to you luke for another quality implement of Pneumag baddassery!


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[Apathetic_Chaos]

Thanks to you luke for another quality implement of Pneumag baddassery!


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkI'm insanely jealous of that purple valve man!

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[BIG BOB]

I'm insanely jealous of that purple valve man!

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Im over here jealous of that forgrip that are apparently impossible to find these days.

[luke]

I'm on track to start shipping frames Tuesday 2/27/18, preorder pricing ends then.

[luke]

Frame project is done, I'll take a breather tonight and decide whats next tomorrow. :D

Thank you guys for the preorders...

[blamtro]

Pming

[BLachance75]

Frame project is done, I'll take a breather tonight and decide whats next tomorrow.

I vote pump kits.

[luke]

Lol, :)

[barkingspider]

I vote pump kits.

+1

[Apathetic_Chaos]

My vote is on/off ASA

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[BLachance75]

Every time I see you post about the next project I will always vote pump kits.

[luke]

Every time I see you post about the next project I will always vote pump kits.

I know that's why I LOLed. :)

I was being facetious, I know what's next. :D

I hear you on pump kits, I just don't see them happening this year with the work I already have designed and in line...

[luke]

My vote is on/off ASA

That's on the agenda but not designed yet, and a little ways down the list.

[BLachance75]

Well since you’re on a grip frame kick I guess you could make a rail less grip frame with built in pump kit.

[luke]

Well since you’re on a grip frame kick I guess you could make a rail less grip frame with built in pump kit.

That's interesting..

[Apathetic_Chaos]

Well since you’re on a grip frame kick I guess you could make a rail less grip frame with built in pump kit.I second everything in this

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[BLachance75]

And since I’m making the request, it has to be the shape of the Mini Vert.

[Patron God of Pirates]

I cosign Mr. Lachance's requests. Pump Uni-Frame FTW

[luke]

It's interesting, but I have too many commitments on my plate already to R&D pump kits. I need to crank out a bunch of stuff so I can take some time to build a new shop so I can expand. R&D drains time I can't afford at the moment so I have to go with stuff that is already designed or at the least already has the engineering worked out. :)

[luke]

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I started prototyping on the LPR-VASA and got to thinking I should perhaps make them without the LPR port too, just just checking if there's any interest at all?

[dahoeb]

My current mag project will probably end up going Pneu...if/when I do, this type of VASA setup would be the one for me since it'll give me more drop forward/rail options. (Looks great with the deflator setup BTW.)

[luke]

The more I study the setup, I'm leaning towards shortening it some (off the top). I had it originally designed that way then switched to the longer version here.

The LPR makes a nice stop for the left hand..

[luke]

I think this is the one.

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[luke]

Anyone for Angled VASA's?
Drilled and tapped on both left and right sides so it can be mounted forward or reverse angles.
2 screw RTP type mount.

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[Apathetic_Chaos]

Anyone for Angled VASA's?
Drilled and tapped on both left and right sides so it can be mounted forward or reverse angles.
2 screw RTP type mount.

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[luke]

Or we could keep it simple. >>

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This could also include a LPR option.

[kwik175]

I'm all for the angled option.

[Dawg047]

I definitely will pick up the VASA for the LPR mounting option. They look slick.

[dahoeb]

The angled would look better, but ive never held an angled grip in my hands, not if itd be more comfortable than a straight grip. Hard choice...

[luke]

I think I have decided to go with the new version without the flat sides for the air fitting and LPR. It's a mainly for inventory control. I do have 3 of these available today if anyone is interested.
I am going to machine new brass fittings for my LPR's as an option for when an o-ring seal is not viable.

The angled VASA will come in two styles, with or without the LPR port. The angled version will come standard with two side ports so it can be mounted forward or reverse. The industry standard for the angle on foregrips are typically 15* but I switched my 'Three Piece Foregrips' to 10* and no one has complained so I will follow suit with 10* on these.

The straight VASA will also come in two styles with or without the LPR port. The straight version will be available with one side port only.

This will NOT be available for the Automag with wings and a single screw mount.

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[Laku]

Just an idea that I think would make the VASA look more balanced aesthetically.

Let me know if this is distracting from the purpose of this thread, or just otherwise anoying and I'll take it down.

https://i.imgur.com/9yM44C2.jpg

[luke]

Laku, I hear ya. I've gone back and forth on that myself. I do find your drawing unbalanced because the airports aren't centered in that detail, my eye goes right to it actually. Plus I think it might look worse once assembled with air fittings and LPR(?)

When the VASA is pictured by itself the unbalanced look is somewhat exaggerated, but when fully assembled with foregrip and on a marker it blends in better. Also it creates some problems with my fixturing for manufacturing.

I don't think there is a perfect answer, as there's a trade-off either way. Maybe there's a compromise between the two ideas, I'll play with it some but no promises.

:cheers:

[Laku]

I hear you. It's to everyone's own preferences, like always. :)

[luke]

There's no way to completely balance or make symmetrical with the various constraints, but I can do this (??)
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[Laku]

Seems more balanced to my eye. :)

Design is a tricky thing, small nuances and unconscious expectations. You can easily spend more hours on polishing something to get over those last 5%, than you did on getting to 95%.
At Least that's my experience on 3D design work on vfx/commercial front. :cheers:

[luke]

Thanks for the little nudge to make the change, I wasn't 100% happy with it myself. :)

[Apathetic_Chaos]

Is there a price/timeframe on the angled vasa with no LPR port? I would love to get my hands on one asap.

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[luke]

Should be available soon.

[Apathetic_Chaos]

Should be available soon.Awesome, thank you, can't wait to get one.

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[awo702]

Angled with an Lpr port is my choice.


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[luke]

Both standard and angled VASA's are completed minus the LPR ports.
Tomorrow I make fixtures and machine a few of each.
Pretty stoked to finish this up and move on to the Z2's.

[Apathetic_Chaos]

Both standard and angled VASA's are completed minus the LPR ports.
Tomorrow I make fixtures and machine a few of each.
Pretty stoked to finish this up and move on to the Z2's.Can I buy one yet? I'm so excited for them

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[luke]

After I get the LPR ports done I'll run the numbers for pricing. So tomorrow or the next day, I have to take pictures and get them added to my website.

[luke]

So who is after a standard VASA with LPR port?
Who is after Angled with LPR port?

I'm only going to machine a few so if I know up front it will help.

[Apathetic_Chaos]

I'm going for an angled vasa, maybe 2

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[luke]

I'm going for an angled vasa, maybe 2

With LPR port?

[Apathetic_Chaos]

With LPR port?No lpr port

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[awo702]

Put me down for an angled with lpr port.


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[luke]

VASA's are completed today, these three project's are now in the books.
Moving on...

:cheers:

[Apathetic_Chaos]

VASA's are completed today, these three project's are now in the books.
Moving on...

:cheers:How much of my money are you taking?

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[luke]

I'm working on the website right this minute, discussions about prices are not allow in Paintball Talk. ;)

[Apathetic_Chaos]

I'm working on the website right this minute, discussions about prices are not allow in Paintball Talk. ;)Fair enough, I'll check the website in the morning

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[Apathetic_Chaos]

Fair enough, I'll check the website in the morning

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[Apathetic_Chaos]

VASA's are completed today, these three project's are now in the books.
Moving on...

:cheers:Out of curiosity, do you have any rails that don't have the am/mm ridge, but are am/mm length? I am considering saving up for a ule for my next build but I would prefer to see something different

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[luke]

The only RTP type rails currently in stock are two Armada's but they are full length. I'm currently out of slug rails so I can't make anything for you. I do have have slug rail materials in route but they're not scheduled for production just yet. I have to clean up several projects before I look into those.

[Apathetic_Chaos]

The only RTP type rails currently in stock are two Armada's but they are full length. I'm currently out of slug rails so I can't make anything for you. I do have have slug rail materials in route but they're not scheduled for production just yet. I have to clean up several projects before I look into those.Thanks for the info, honestly I am no where near starting this project, but just a thought I had. Once I complete the mag I'm finishing off I may be reaching out to you.

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[The Dawg]

The only RTP type rails currently in stock are two Armada's but they are full length. I'm currently out of slug rails so I can't make anything for you. I do have have slug rail materials in route but they're not scheduled for production just yet. I have to clean up several projects before I look into those.

Are the slug rails an extrusion, or are those ridges milled underneath the body? I was taking a closer look at a rail the other day and noticed the shape.

[luke]

Mine are not extrusions, sounds like you're talking about the factory RTP/EM rail.

I make the slug rails from billet, I just got 84 feet of billet in today, good for a little more than 100 slug rails 9.2" long.

[The Dawg]

Yeah, that's what I was talking about.

[luke]

I have standard 1/8 NPT style brass fittings now in stock for those applications where the o-ring seal is not ideal.

95874

95873

[luke]

103055

103056

103057

[luke]

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