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dodge3500
04-15-2020, 06:15 AM
OK guys,I havent played in some time now and I'm in the process of building a x-valve automag and wondering whats the best loader for one?I know an automag can run fairly quick so what do I need to get?
Dye
Virtue
Tfx
Or other?
Thanks

Laku
04-15-2020, 07:40 AM
For starters any force feed hopper will be good. Depending on what kind of RoF you’re aiming at you might need something fast (over ~16 bps). For high RoF I think Dye rotors are your best bet, they should be capable of up to something like 40 bps.

Personally I like spire3.

BigEvil
04-15-2020, 07:57 AM
You cant beat the new Spires. There is also a new lower end one that is really good too I just cant think of the name of it.

captian pinky
04-15-2020, 08:12 AM
depending how fast or quickly you are planning to shoot a spire may not be fast enough. I outshoot spires with mags and mech cockers because the ball stack and time to start the agitation is to long.

dodge3500
04-15-2020, 08:23 AM
I will be taking advantage of the rt effect at times.

trbo323
04-15-2020, 08:49 AM
Spire 3, you can adjust pretty much any parameter you want.

Dye wouldn't be a bad choice either though

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dodge3500
04-15-2020, 09:06 AM
I guess my only real concern is chopping paint.

trbo323
04-15-2020, 10:42 AM
I guess my only real concern is chopping paint.If you are running x valve you have lvl10. Just tune it.

Nothing is going to be able to prevent all barrel breaks but I don't see a problem with any of the top end hoppers except maybe the pinokio

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dodge3500
04-15-2020, 12:13 PM
May take a look at the spire3 never had anything from virtue.
Where would be the cheapest place to get one from?
Thanks

vintage
04-15-2020, 03:23 PM
If you are running x valve you have lvl10. Just tune it.

Nothing is going to be able to prevent all barrel breaks but I don't see a problem with any of the top end hoppers except maybe the pinokio

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Sven Doktor doesn't seem to have problems with the long nose loaders.

Spinnygrass
04-15-2020, 05:14 PM
Virtue has a deal right now for a Spire III, pack, and pants for $250. Seems like a good deal.

Right now I use a Gi LVL. It’s $80, works decent enough and saved my bacon when I grenaded my Vlocity in 20* weather in NY...

Nobody
04-15-2020, 09:11 PM
I will be taking advantage of the rt effect at times.

Lol, you will find that RT'ing all the time gets old real quick when you run throw your pack of paint/game.

If you have a well setup L10 mag, regardless of mag type(though you won't take full advantage of the emag), you can put on any loader and not fear a chop. So you can put any loader on it.

Spires work, but can be outrun with mags(at the highest rof). Halos work, but are heavy. Empire loaders work but can be fragile/finicky. Rotors work, but are loud and can, at times not feed/jam/slice paint.

Anything newer? I can't give an opinion, as i have no experience with them.

So go with what you know, go with what you like. In most cases, you could get your money back on the secondary market on a new purchase loader, or go used & hooe to flip it with no loss.

going_home
04-16-2020, 06:33 AM
Spire III 280 ;)

Laku
04-16-2020, 06:36 AM
Spire III 280 ;)

https://media2.giphy.com/media/l3q2LH45XElELRzRm/giphy.gif

trbo323
04-16-2020, 08:46 AM
May take a look at the spire3 never had anything from virtue.
Where would be the cheapest place to get one from?
ThanksHa!

Cheap

Virtue

Good joke

Anywhere you can find it is going to be roughly the same. I do recommend a speed feed with it. Virtues is probably the best but again, also the most expensive.

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dodge3500
04-16-2020, 09:59 AM
Ha!

Cheap

Virtue

Good joke

Anywhere you can find it is going to be roughly the same. I do recommend a speed feed with it. Virtues is probably the best but again, also the most expensive.

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Lol,let me rephrase that.How about the place that has the best price on them?

jbtamu1011
04-16-2020, 10:30 AM
My Rotor LT-R seems to work just fine with many different fast feeding mags or other electros I've tested it with.

Spinnygrass
04-29-2020, 05:27 PM
Virtue has the Spires on sale right now for $135. FYI

dodge3500
04-29-2020, 09:06 PM
Lol ,I purchased a prophecy z2 from ansgear.com then turned right around and bought a spire iii with speedfeed and lithium battery pack.:)

135$ is a deal.