Democrats Threaten To Pack Supreme Court

[wetwrks]

So...the Democrats have been talking for a while now about expanding the number of Justices on the Supreme Court so they can choose and pack it with liberal judges that will rule as the Democrats want.

Well...if the Supreme Court needs more Judges...perhaps the Republicans need to go ahead and expand the number of judges and fill it now.

[Nobody]

That is one tactic the Democrats could use.

But remember, there is no set number of Chief Justices for the Supreme court. Throughout the history, there have been as few as 6 and as many as 11. 9 is just a number that was settled on but not set in stone.

Furthermore, this would not be an issue if back in 2016, that the senate Republicans hadn't closed ranks only to deny a valid candidate 9 months before the election, while now is 6 weeks before another election. With all the various seantors stating precident for allowing the people to choose the President & Justice, it would only be fair for the same to be applied now. But since Trump & the Republicans feel that they must grasp at every straw of power, do not expect things to go smoothly just because one side is challenging the impropriety of words/promises said, and the apparent fast track of the nomination.

[wetwrks]

That is one tactic the Democrats could use.

But remember, there is no set number of Chief Justices for the Supreme court. Throughout the history, there have been as few as 6 and as many as 11. 9 is just a number that was settled on but not set in stone.

Furthermore, this would not be an issue if back in 2016, that the senate Republicans hadn't closed ranks only to deny a valid candidate 9 months before the election, while now is 6 weeks before another election. With all the various seantors stating precident for allowing the people to choose the President & Justice, it would only be fair for the same to be applied now. But since Trump & the Republicans feel that they must grasp at every straw of power, do not expect things to go smoothly just because one side is challenging the impropriety of words/promises said, and the apparent fast track of the nomination.

Actually...every time the Senate and President were of the same party and a Supreme Court Judge needed to be replaced within the last year of that President they have gotten replaced...this is true for BOTH parties. This is nothing new nor is it just a Republican thing. And...it is not unusual when the Senate and President are of different parties for the Supreme Court Judge to be delayed or denied...again true of both parties. You act as if only the Republicans have done this. Wrong.

This Democrat packing of the Supreme Court isn't a recent threat...I have been hearing rumblings of this for a few years.

I have mentioned it before...you need to get your head out of the sand and look around at the world and not just listen to what the media feeds you.

[going_home]

The SCOTUS doesnt need more judges.

They just need judges that will judge by the rule of law and stop legislating from the bench IE Roe vs Wade.

[wetwrks]

The SCOTUS doesnt need more judges.

They just need judges that will judge by the rule of law and stop legislating from the bench IE Roe vs Wade.

Rule of law...they need to quit holding to revisionist history...and hold to the constitution and our constitutional rights.

[Nobody]

Rule of law...they need to quit holding to revisionist history...and hold to the constitution and our constitutional rights.

Laws are made to be changed, to reflect the times we live in. It is not revisionist, to look back, change what is injust and to make sure that the problems or injust laws are removed. The original draft held no rights to slaves. Is that something that shouldn't have been abolished? Making sure that women can not have laws made to exclude them from owning property, or even to be considered property is wrong?

No, it is revisionist history because you see it from a bias. Laws are a living breathing concept that all citizens should follow.


The SCOTUS doesnt need more judges.

They just need judges that will judge by the rule of law and stop legislating from the bench IE Roe vs Wade.

You(and I) do not make that decision. We can petition our representatives, but the decision is up to the senators...

You do realize, that that law extends to your rights as well? Not the exact ruling, but as an extension of your and every citizens rights to personal protections of how to live their life with the choices they make. You wish to live your life the way you or how you wish to. That is fine, that is your right. Likewise it is a right to allow a women to live her life, and if that is to get a medical procedure, then so be it. That is her life & your views, your opinions and your wants should not interfer nor matter. Likewise that women criticising your choices on how to live.

The rights cut both ways. You can not hoist your views & not be held accountable yourself. Morality is another matter but does not play into the law.

[Nobody]

Addedum:

Those of you that don't want the government to make the decisions for you, to interfer in your life, to track you, to have a say in your life. That is a part of R v W. That law establishes in no other way that you have a choice on your body & how you wish to live. Though there is freedom of speech, the rights to petition the government (funnily enough, many of you forget that a protest is just that, in the 1st amendment), no other law has a basis of personal choice. Remove that, then the rights you feel could be take now are severely weakened and subsequently by unfair, despotic & corrupt people whittling away any and all rights you might have till you have no rights.

So everyone should support that law as it extends not directly to you but in the laws that you hold dearly.

[going_home]

You do understand that the supreme Court does not make laws, they just interpret the laws that are already made.

That's what they are supposed to do but they have been making their own laws which needs to stop.

The legislature is the branch of the government that is supposed to make the laws not the supreme Court.

[Xyxyll]

Actually...every time the Senate and President were of the same party and a Supreme Court Judge needed to be replaced within the last year of that President they have gotten replaced...this is true for BOTH parties. This is nothing new nor is it just a Republican thing. And...it is not unusual when the Senate and President are of different parties for the Supreme Court Judge to be delayed or denied...again true of both parties. You act as if only the Republicans have done this. Wrong.

This Democrat packing of the Supreme Court isn't a recent threat...I have been hearing rumblings of this for a few years.

I have mentioned it before...you need to get your head out of the sand and look around at the world and not just listen to what the media feeds you.

This is a moving goal post. R's said in 2016 many times that they're setting new precedent. They never once said they were denying the vote because Obama was a Dem. Graham literally says "use my words against me."

https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1307172635298725888

[Nobody]

You do understand that the supreme Court does not make laws, they just interpret the laws that are already made.

That's what they are supposed to do but they have been making their own laws which needs to stop.

The legislature is the branch of the government that is supposed to make the laws not the supreme Court.

So they do make laws or are you confused?

Legislation proposes the redaction of the law. The Supremem court votes how the Republicans want, the law is removed.

The supreme court is there to make sure that the laws are just & legal; checks & balances. But if the court is stacked were favors are being used, then any law that would benefit one side would be pushed through without opposition, regardless of justification or legality.

[going_home]

So they do make laws or are you confused? They have been, its not their job to do so, sorry it confuses you.

Legislation proposes the redaction of the law. The Supremem court votes how the Republicans want, the law is removed. You are very confused, the legislature writes the laws, the SCOTUS is only to interpret the laws written.
The supreme court is there to make sure that the laws are just & legal; checks & balances. FALSE, they are only to interpret the laws thats it, nothing more.But if the court is stacked were favors are being used, then any law that would benefit one side would be pushed through without opposition, regardless of justification or legality.

Dont worry Doug, if the thugs on the left dont get their way they will just kill another conservative SC justice like they did Scalia (yea they didnt allow an autopsy), or dig up dirt and threaten them like they did to John Roberts to get him to vote their way on obummercare (his foreign born adopted kids were not adopted properly by US law) .

;)

[wetwrks]

Justice Ginsburg has been praised for a lifetime of "fighting for what she believed in."

Unfortunately, she possessed the one job that requires the holder to dispossess themselves of personal biases and policy ambitions.

Senator Ted Cruz has repeatedly removed himself from consideration for the Supreme Court because he wants to be in the fight and understands that fight can only happen properly in the political arena. She should have done the same one way or the other.

Copied and edited from the Robertsons Family FB page.

[rawbutter]

Dont worry Doug, if the thugs on the left dont get their way they will just kill another conservative SC justice like they did Scalia (yea they didnt allow an autopsy), or dig up dirt and threaten them like they did to John Roberts to get him to vote their way on obummercare (his foreign born adopted kids were not adopted properly by US law) .

;)

Lol. Sure. Didn't allow an autopsy. His family didn't request one because his health was terrible and his death wasn't really a surprise. A doctor had recently postponed some surgery because he was afraid Scalia wasn't strong enough to survive. Then Scalia went to bed after an exhausting, busy day and never woke up the next morning. No foul play. Not even the slightest suspicion from anyone close to him that it was anything but natural causes. That's why it wasn't treated like a criminal investigation.

If you're desperate to find conspiracies committed by extremists, you should look elsewhere. Like, the white house. Did you know that the current administration had a complete covid response plan ready to go, but then that fascist Stephen Miller realized that the hardest hit areas were also the areas that were dominated by democratic voters? So they backed off. Trump has allowed hundreds of thousands of people die (sorry, I meant to say democrats, not people) just because it helps his reelection chances.

Killing a judge really doesn't look so bad in comparison.

[Tunaman]

Lol. Sure. Didn't allow an autopsy. His family didn't request one because his health was terrible and his death wasn't really a surprise. A doctor had recently postponed some surgery because he was afraid Scalia wasn't strong enough to survive. Then Scalia went to bed after an exhausting, busy day and never woke up the next morning. No foul play. Not even the slightest suspicion from anyone close to him that it was anything but natural causes. That's why it wasn't treated like a criminal investigation.

If you're desperate to find conspiracies committed by extremists, you should look elsewhere. Like, the white house. Did you know that the current administration had a complete covid response plan ready to go, but then that fascist Stephen Miller realized that the hardest hit areas were also the areas that were dominated by democratic voters? So they backed off. Trump has allowed hundreds of thousands of people die (sorry, I meant to say democrats, not people) just because it helps his reelection chances.

Killing a judge really doesn't look so bad in comparison.What a bunch of crap you spew. Donald Trump has done everything any state has asked him to do...except give them money to bail out their failed pension systems He sent help they all swear they needed but didnt. It's not his fault the Chinese let this virus out. Place the blame where it belongs...on the Chinese. Vote red or the socialists take over. All Americans should vote against socialism.

[Nobody]

What a bunch of crap you spew. Donald Trump has done everything any state has asked him to do...except give them money to bail out their failed pension systems He sent help they all swear they needed but didnt. It's not his fault the Chinese let this virus out. Place the blame where it belongs...on the Chinese. Vote red or the socialists take over. All Americans should vote against socialism.

Wow tuna, at least stay on topic of the Supreme Court.

The Chinese don't have anything to do with RBG, nor the Supreme Court. Looking for someone to blame & then do nothing about it, does not help any one of the more than 200,000 and counting deaths. Even if China took the blame, what does assigning blame do? Seriously, you and the Trump party want to make this into a nation versus nation thing while the deaths keep piling up. The president's job is to PROTECT the people. Republicans & democrats; white, black, yellow, red or rainbow. If they are a citizen, then they should have been given the right information, the correct prevention to help insure more lives would be saved than panicing the stock market because donnie boy was more worried about his portfolio than his constituents, constituents that would or could have reelected him. Now he will loose, cry foul & then face criminal, civil & federal charges(one can only hope).

One thing assured is, trump will be the most famous 1 term president, only from his total ineptitude, grand incompetence & criminal behavior. Nixon can finally say, from hell, "see, i wasn't even that bad".

And i guess you don't want your Social security checks or medicare either, since those are socialist practices. No red american would want to be party to getting those kinds of government run programs, lol

[rawbutter]

What a bunch of crap you spew. Donald Trump has done everything any state has asked him to do...except give them money to bail out their failed pension systems He sent help they all swear they needed but didnt. It's not his fault the Chinese let this virus out. Place the blame where it belongs...on the Chinese. Vote red or the socialists take over. All Americans should vote against socialism.

You do realize that when something really terrible happens, two parties can be at fault. Right? I never said the Chinese were blameless in this. I'm just saying that Trump also did just about everything wrong. If he had actually done some real leading back in March and told everyone to wear masks, this would be over and many, many people would still be alive.

Seriously. The CDC and the WHO have repeatedly said that just one month of mandatory masks would practically eliminate the virus. We wouldn't even need to shut down businesses. We could have done the one-month thing in March and been back to normal in April, just like New Zealand. But Trump refuses to do it. And why? I personally can't believe it's because he's too stupid to understand the science. I'm far more inclined to believe that he thinks all the deaths benefit him somehow. That's why this is still happening.





And i guess you [Tunaman] don't want your Social security checks or medicare either, since those are socialist practices. No red american would want to be party to getting those kinds of government run programs, lol

I know, right? I suppose all the righties must be super excited about Trump cutting the payroll tax a few months ago. If he gets reelected, he's going to make that change permanent, which means no more social security. Yay! Less socialism! Finally.

Although....Trump is probably still gonna keep giving money to the oil companies. Can't afford to lose them, I guess. And the farmers and banks. Oh, and Walmart. Can't forget about Walmart. I mean, sure, each super center costs taxpayers about $1.5 million dollars every single year to keep it open, and that money could be spent instead on schools or roads or a hundred other things those community needs. But nothing is more American than big business and cheap toilet paper! So we should probably keep Walmart.

[Tunaman]

You do realize that when something really terrible happens, two parties can be at fault. Right? I never said the Chinese were blameless in this. I'm just saying that Trump also did just about everything wrong. If he had actually done some real leading back in March and told everyone to wear masks, this would be over and many, many people would still be alive.

Seriously. The CDC and the WHO have repeatedly said that just one month of mandatory masks would practically eliminate the virus. We wouldn't even need to shut down businesses. We could have done the one-month thing in March and been back to normal in April, just like New Zealand. But Trump refuses to do it. And why? I personally can't believe it's because he's too stupid to understand the science. I'm far more inclined to believe that he thinks all the deaths benefit him somehow. That's why this is still happening.





I know, right? I suppose all the righties must be super excited about Trump cutting the payroll tax a few months ago. If he gets reelected, he's going to make that change permanent, which means no more social security. Yay! Less socialism! Finally.

Although....Trump is probably still gonna keep giving money to the oil companies. Can't afford to lose them, I guess. And the farmers and banks. Oh, and Walmart. Can't forget about Walmart. I mean, sure, each super center costs taxpayers about $1.5 million dollars every single year to keep it open, and that money could be spent instead on schools or roads or a hundred other things those community needs. But nothing is more American than big business and cheap toilet paper! So we should probably keep Walmart.

You really should quit watching MSDNC and CNN. It does you no good. Your arguments are wrong.

[luke]

I'm just saying that Trump also did just about everything wrong. If he had actually done some real leading back in March and told everyone to wear masks, this would be over and many, many people would still be alive.

Masks do NOTHING to prevent the spread of the virus.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeBGxKcV2CQ

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[Nobody]

Masks do NOTHING to prevent the spread of the virus.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeBGxKcV2CQ

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So are you finally believing that there is a virus? Well that is a start.

Again, someone comes in & comes off topic, slewing false & rhetorical statements. Just because.

Well, not wearing a mask does spread the virus. Some idiot on YT does nothing but spread lies & misinformation. Put a mask on & then we can move forward in this pandemic. It is not wearing a mask that is helping cause the numbers to not go down, ruining everyone's lives with shutdowns, limited capacity in the few restaurants that are open and all. You are not a voice for the moral right, you are Typhoid Mary causing this to go on longer. Listen to a doctor who has studied this, not a quack who wants to be paid attention.

[Nobody]

You really should quit watching MSDNC and CNN. It does you no good. Your arguments are wrong.

It is wrong because it doesn't fit with the false statements that you have been feeding upon. Near every other news agency has been in line with the truth, but fox news comes out with a different narrative. You believe that Trump does nothing wrong then you can't see the woods through the trees.

And just because you say they are wrong, you give no examples of why, and you are coming off as ignorant to the possibility of the truth.

[rawbutter]

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[wetwrks]

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If you are concerned about the Covid deaths then you need to ask why the Democrats have opposed Trump...claimed he was blowing the pandemic out of proportion...and sent infected into conditions that would infect others

[going_home]

If you are concerned about the Covid deaths then you need to ask why the Democrats have opposed Trump...claimed he was blowing the pandemic out of proportion...and sent infected into conditions that would infect others

Thats what they do, say things on camera and months later deny they ever said it.

We have years of hidin Biden saying incredibly stupid things on camera yet they will still vote for him.

Its criminal they allowed him to run, a man with early onset Alzheimers, its elder abuse.

Who do they think will be running the country if he wins ?

It wont be the zombie in the basement thats for sure.

[rawbutter]

If you are concerned about the Covid deaths then you need to ask why the Democrats have opposed Trump...claimed he was blowing the pandemic out of proportion...and sent infected into conditions that would infect others

Um, when have the Dems ever claimed that Trump was blowing the pandemic out of proportion? Please, find me that story. I'll wait.

[Nobody]

If you are concerned about the Covid deaths then you need to ask why the Democrats have opposed Trump...claimed he was blowing the pandemic out of proportion...and sent infected into conditions that would infect others

Where is this opposition? If anything, the dems have been wondering why the doctors are saying one thing but trump saying/doing another. Also, not only ignoring, giving contradictory and trying to undermine Fauci and the CDCs guidelines trying to stem this pandemic; voing against any and all recommendations of not holding indoor events, not wearing masks & trying to not increase the spread of the virus any more.


Thats what they do, say things on camera and months later deny they ever said it.

Where, when? No, that is Trump and most of the Republican party. Everything about covid, about the supreme court, trump's health plan, etc and so forth.


We have years of hidin Biden saying incredibly stupid things on camera yet they will still vote for him.

Though Biden is prone to gaffs, the message is there. Public speaking is not his strong suit but as president, he will put the right people in the right place, unlike trump who seems to reward his donors who then get arrested/jailed over fraud charges.


Its criminal they allowed him to run, a man with early onset Alzheimers, its elder abuse.

And trump is any better?


Who do they think will be running the country if he wins ?

Biden & Harris. Harris would be the 2nd woman running the country after Edith Wilson(wife of Woodrow Wilson)


It wont be the zombie in the basement thats for sure.

No clue. Maybe if you are seeing zombies, you should have worn a mask

[rawbutter]

Masks do NOTHING to prevent the spread of the virus.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeBGxKcV2CQ


Anyone still sharing this nonsense should be arrested. Seriously. You're endangering the common good. The house is on fire and you're telling everyone inside that they're safe staying home.

As for "doctor" Ted, he should have his medical license revoked for spreading this kind of bologna. He's also not an expert on diseases. He's an anesthesiologist. Big difference. So, I wouldn't take his word for any of this, especially when the CDC is saying otherwise.

First of all, his "experiment" is deeply flawed. Ted compares a bunch of masks to each other, but he never shows you what happens when no mask is worn. That's the important difference. He also focuses on breathing out and completely ignores how masks affect breathing in, which is another important difference. (Wearing a mask is more about protecting yourself from others than protecting others from you.)

He also doesn't show you an N95 mask, which is a HUGE oversight. (I'm willing to bet that he did have an N95 mask, but once he tried it out and realized what a huge difference it made, he wasn't willing to change his hypothesis. So, he ignored the evidence that didn't support his assumption...which is the exact opposite of what good doctors do.)

Furthermore, there's a big difference between visible smoke and the invisible droplets and aerosol that spread the virus. You cannot see droplets and aerosol, so a visual "test" that's shared on YouTube proves literally nothing. He needs to do the same test in a lab with scientific equipment and special cameras that can accurately measure the true rate of transmission and all the other----

Oh wait! Someone already did that. Phew.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DNeYfUTA11s

Here's the real truth of the matter. While it's technically correct to say that masks do not stop 100% of covid (or any other virus, for that matter), they do significantly reduce the rate of transmission. The best masks can reduce transmission rates as much as 95%, and even cheap masks can reduce the rate to manageable margins.

So, get a good mask (yes, some are much better than others), wear it correctly (don't stick out your nose), and don't leave home without it.

[luke]

Anyone still sharing this nonsense should be arrested.

Exactly what a Communist would say.

[rawbutter]

Exactly what a Communist would say.

Exactly what a fascist would say.

[Tunaman]

Name ONE city that democrats run that is not a complete shytehole...anyone? Thought so.

[luke]

Exactly what a fascist would say.

There it is, the guy I was pretty sure you were.

[wetwrks]

Um, when have the Dems ever claimed that Trump was blowing the pandemic out of proportion? Please, find me that story. I'll wait.

“We have right now a crisis with the coronavirus, emanating from China,” Biden said on Jan. 31 at a campaign event in Iowa. “A national emergency worldwide alerts. The American people need to have a president who they can trust what he says about it, that he is going to act rationally about it. In moments like this, this is where the credibility of the president is most needed, as he explains what we should and should not do. This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia – hysterical xenophobia – and fearmongering to lead the way instead of science.”

In an op-ed published several days prior in USA Today, Biden similarly argued: “The possibility of a pandemic is a challenge Donald Trump is unqualified to handle as president.” Biden wrote that he recalled “how Trump sought to stoke fear and stigma during the 2014 Ebola epidemic.” Trump, Biden wrote, “railed against the evidence-based response our administration put in place — which quelled the crisis and saved hundreds of thousands of lives — in favor of reactionary travel bans that would only have made things worse.”

So...Biden said that the travel restrictions were not rational and hysterical (In other words...blown out of proportion). Keep in mind...at the point Biden made these statements we already had confirmed cases here in the US. Worldwide we were already at a death toll of more than 200 and an exponential jump to more than 9800 cases...this was in less than a month of public being aware of it.

[wetwrks]

(Wearing a mask is more about protecting yourself from others than protecting others from you.)

Um...that is not what the experts are saying.

Studies on the new coronavirus and other germs show wearing a mask helps stop infected people from spreading disease to others. Evidence also suggests that masks may offer some protection for the people wearing them.

*may* *some protection*

While some droplets may still spread out, wearing a mask could reduce the amount, providing a benefit to others.

https://apnews.com/article/16cc7a31a327820b9bd1e56a89df5d49

If the mask is only about protecting yourself then why are they so hellbent on everyone wearing them? My body my choice as your side likes to chant all so often.

[Tunaman]

When you kids have had enough of high taxes and paying for free everything for everyone lets us know. It will happen when you grow up.

[wetwrks]

When you kids have had enough of high taxes and paying for free everything for everyone lets us know. It will happen when you grow up.

This quote has been attributed to a number of people...

“If you’re not a liberal when you’re 25, you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative by the time you’re 35, you have no brain.”

[Tunaman]

this quote has been attributed to a number of people...

“if you’re not a liberal when you’re 25, you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative by the time you’re 35, you have no brain.”

:d

[Nobody]

Exactly what a Communist would say.

Funnily enough, that is the same thing that Tuna says. Guess he is the ultimate red, a red communist...

[Nobody]

“We have right now a crisis with the coronavirus, emanating from China,” Biden said on Jan. 31 at a campaign event in Iowa. “A national emergency worldwide alerts. The American people need to have a president who they can trust what he says about it, that he is going to act rationally about it. In moments like this, this is where the credibility of the president is most needed, as he explains what we should and should not do. This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia – hysterical xenophobia – and fearmongering to lead the way instead of science.”

In an op-ed published several days prior in USA Today, Biden similarly argued: “The possibility of a pandemic is a challenge Donald Trump is unqualified to handle as president.” Biden wrote that he recalled “how Trump sought to stoke fear and stigma during the 2014 Ebola epidemic.” Trump, Biden wrote, “railed against the evidence-based response our administration put in place — which quelled the crisis and saved hundreds of thousands of lives — in favor of reactionary travel bans that would only have made things worse.”

So...Biden said that the travel restrictions were not rational and hysterical (In other words...blown out of proportion). Keep in mind...at the point Biden made these statements we already had confirmed cases here in the US. Worldwide we were already at a death toll of more than 200 and an exponential jump to more than 9800 cases...this was in less than a month of public being aware of it.

Yes, because the travel restrictions did nothing, and in fact only limited, NOT STOP all flights to or from China. Besides the point, that the virus already was here, and though restrictions may have hindered those already effected, it did nothing to stop the virus in the first place.

Add in the fact that, these travel restrictions could have been put in place way before they were implemented & the US could have gotten ahead of the disease by following the WHO guidelines, but were denigrated & passed off as fake news.


Um...that is not what the experts are saying.

Studies on the new coronavirus and other germs show wearing a mask helps stop infected people from spreading disease to others. Evidence also suggests that masks may offer some protection for the people wearing them.

*may* *some protection*

While some droplets may still spread out, wearing a mask could reduce the amount, providing a benefit to others.

https://apnews.com/article/16cc7a31a327820b9bd1e56a89df5d49

If the mask is only about protecting yourself then why are they so hellbent on everyone wearing them? My body my choice as your side likes to chant all so often.

The same "logic" was put to test by seatbelt laws & even helmet laws for motorcycles. You will always hear of a story of some person who by miracle, was not killed when they didn't wear a seatbelt or the seatbelt could have caused more bodily harm. Sure, it is a statistical anomaly that this 1 instance, yet do you not wear a seltbelt?

As for wearing them, why should you be the only one not to wear it? What gives you the right to say that you are above the guidelines? If everyone would take that stand, then no one would be wearing one, and we would have rampant infections spreading worse than it already is. If, everyone wears a mask, then it should be, not a right of your body above others, it should be a concern of the health of all people, ot just yourself. If you wear the mask, the quicker we can quell the spread & infections, the faster we can begin to lift restrictions. If you would look at other countries, you will see that masks work, and have nothing to do with hindering your rights.

[Nobody]

When you kids have had enough of high taxes and paying for free everything for everyone lets us know. It will happen when you grow up.

Well maybe that is because your president is scamming the government by not paying his own taxes and we have to make up the difference. Makes you wonder, huh?

[rawbutter]

“We have right now a crisis with the coronavirus, emanating from China,” Biden said on Jan. 31 at a campaign event in Iowa. “A national emergency worldwide alerts. The American people need to have a president who they can trust what he says about it, that he is going to act rationally about it. In moments like this, this is where the credibility of the president is most needed, as he explains what we should and should not do. This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia – hysterical xenophobia – and fearmongering to lead the way instead of science.”

In an op-ed published several days prior in USA Today, Biden similarly argued: “The possibility of a pandemic is a challenge Donald Trump is unqualified to handle as president.” Biden wrote that he recalled “how Trump sought to stoke fear and stigma during the 2014 Ebola epidemic.” Trump, Biden wrote, “railed against the evidence-based response our administration put in place — which quelled the crisis and saved hundreds of thousands of lives — in favor of reactionary travel bans that would only have made things worse.”

So...Biden said that the travel restrictions were not rational and hysterical (In other words...blown out of proportion). Keep in mind...at the point Biden made these statements we already had confirmed cases here in the US. Worldwide we were already at a death toll of more than 200 and an exponential jump to more than 9800 cases...this was in less than a month of public being aware of it.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0

Sorry. Couldn't resist.

But seriously, I don't see how this proves your point. At all. All you've done is quote some times that Biden said Trump was stupid. And he was right.

Biden did say that Trump's travel ban idea was stupid (and blown out of proportion, I guess), but he was talking then about the 2014 Ebola crisis, not the current epidemic. Different situation.

Now, to be fair, Trump has said many times that Biden and the Dems said he was overreacting, and they later admitted that he was right. So if you only listen to Trump and Fake Fox News and never look into things yourself, I could see how you would be confused. But Trump was lying when he said that stuff. He lies all the time. So, I stand by my original point.



“If you’re not a liberal when you’re 25, you have no heart. If you’re not a conservative by the time you’re 35, you have no brain.”

If I'm brainless, then what does that say about you? Cause I'm making you all look dumb.

[rawbutter]

When you kids have had enough of high taxes and paying for free everything for everyone lets us know. It will happen when you grow up.

We don't want free stuff. We just want the taxes that we already pay to go towards things that help more people (like cheaper healthcare and education instead of war planes and tanks).

We also don't hate cops, by the way. We just want them to be held responsible when they make mistakes and kill people. (They're really not supposed to do that.)

We don't hate rich people. We just think that they should pay higher taxes than the rest of us. (Most of them don't.) Who really needs a billion dollars anyway?

We don't hate big business. We just don't think that they should be allowed to pollute the planet and underpay their workers and do all the other crap that they do so their shareholders will be happy.

And we're not trying to steal the supreme court. We're just mad that the Republicans did back in 2016. Seriously. How does a party do that and then still have the gall to call themselves the "law and order" party?

https://miro.medium.com/max/625/1*zJmlxvqTsZWO6Q7kYx35Pg.jpeg

[rawbutter]

Well maybe that is because your president is scamming the government by not paying his own taxes and we have to make up the difference. Makes you wonder, huh?

Seriously. Today I learned that I paid more taxes last year than Trump. Why does anyone still like this goon?

[Nobody]

Seriously. Today I learned that I paid more taxes last year than Trump. Why does anyone still like this goon?

Well to be fair, when one person goes through an election to one of the highest scrutinized, highest objectified, highest, most visible sest in the US, the media is out to get you. Every little thing you do is going to be reported on, analyzed, opinionated upon. So one would have to bury many, many skeletons from their closet, bury hundreds upon thousands of documents, distance themselves from tens of hundreds of bad influences, add in a dash of transparency and none of this would be seen. Then maybe all those of 'the pot calling the kettle black', about various email frauds, collusion with foreign businesses/governments, tax fraud, tax evasion(hey, if Wesley Snipes & Al Capone can go to jail for it, so can Trump...), embezzlement, insurance fraud and all the lying, would not have been looked at so hard.

I mean, sure 1 or 2 of those things could be fabrications, but at least Trump will go down(pun intended) as one of the most famous presidents we have had...

[Tunaman]

Hey idiots... Trump doesnt write the tax laws. Tax avoidance within the law is not a crime. Do you think that after 3.5 yrs and about 40 million dollars trying they would have found SOMETHING criminal? Where is it? Maybe go ask Adam Schifforbrains...he has the evidence. You have been lied to and fail to admit it.

[Nobody]

Hey idiots... Trump doesnt write the tax laws. Tax avoidance within the law is not a crime. Do you think that after 3.5 yrs and about 40 million dollars trying they would have found SOMETHING criminal? Where is it? Maybe go ask Adam Schifforbrains...he has the evidence. You have been lied to and fail to admit it.

My dear fool, i am not naive to think that any and all millionaires don't have lawyers & accountants that will weasel out the best possible outcome so they pay as little as possible, but it is preposterous to think that someone who says he is worth 'Billions', yells that Obama should have paid more on his taxes, states that avoiding paying taxes is against the law and everyone should be paying it, to literally pay less than a waitress making $2/hr in federal taxes. I don't expect him to pay a flat rate, but i want him to pay more than he has to the US Government than he does to the FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS(again, there is that collusion topic) of India, the Philippinesor Panama(which is a tax haven), or call out other businesses that are paying their fair share like Amazon.

So if you want to believe the BS of tax avoidance, be my guest(not that you Tuna, need my permission) but that much avoidance is way over what any one person should or expect to get. Of course, this would all go away if or when Trump's taxes would be released. Then the government, the states & the people will find out exactly what is going on with these numbers.

[pillage]

If the Democrats come back into power and pack the court, it will come back to bite them in the ass, just like the Nuclear Option did. When President Obama nominated Garland Merrick his party did not hold the Senate, so his nomination went nowhere. Had the Democrats held the Senate at that time Merrick would be sitting on the supreme court. This time around the Republican party holds the White House and the Senate so they can do what they want when it comes to nominations. It is a check and balance thing.

Considering President Trump has donated his complete presidential salary to the US Government, he certainly has paid more than $750.

[luke]

So you're saying that the leader of the free world should do nothing except think about the Chinese virus? That's low IQ and absurd by any standard.


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[going_home]

You guys realize you aren't changing anyone's mind with the America hating idiocy you learned from your marxist college professors ?

Pump the brakes pump the brakes ...

;)

[luke]

You guys realize you aren't changing anyone's mind with the America hating idiocy you learned from your marxist college professors ?

Pump the brakes pump the brakes ...


Instead of hitting the brakes I suggest we just steer them towards a cliff edge. :rofl:

[Nobody]

So you're saying that the leader of the free world should do nothing except think about the Chinese virus? That's low IQ and absurd by any standard.

No. Take the information and put it to better use than ignoring it, go against advice & health guidelines by the doctors, you prepare for the upcoming danger, not look to put blame. Because we do not know how well that could have been, as to what has been done cost 204k deaths.

[rawbutter]

Instead of hitting the brakes I suggest we just steer them towards a cliff edge. :rofl:

What the hell is wrong with you?

I don't agree with most of what you've said in this thread or the other one about defunding the police, but I would never makes jokes about killing you. I don't even know how to respond to that.

You know what? I'm out. I'm not arguing with people who are so disrespectful. You too, Going-Home. I still remember your rooftop voting comment. I shouldn't have let it slide then. I'm not standing for it any more.

If it were up to me you'd both be banned for a while. Disagreements and arguments are one thing. But you've crossed the line.

[Nobody]

You guys realize you aren't changing anyone's mind with the America hating idiocy you learned from your marxist college professors ?

Pump the brakes pump the brakes ...

;)

That is assuming that you or any of the other hardliners could have their minds changed. I honestly, am not in this TO CHANGE anyone's mind, i am just bringing up the other side in a fair balance. This is a paintball site, not any one political website. It is unfair to everyone to only have 1 view point, so i take it upon myself to help represent an opposing view. If i change anyone's mind, for one or the other, so be it. I just have ethics, morals, decorum, intelligence, integrity; so i have no clue why anyone would want to support the buffoon in charge, or how anyone could sell their soul to support the man in office that is literally bringing down my country.

And a marxist professor would have a totally different set of ethics than anyone here is displaying. Please look up these terms, cause you toss around socialist, communist & fascist, and you have no clue as to what they mean, only that foxnews et al, use them.

[Nobody]

If the Democrats come back into power and pack the court, it will come back to bite them in the ass, just like the Nuclear Option did. When President Obama nominated Garland Merrick his party did not hold the Senate, so his nomination went nowhere. Had the Democrats held the Senate at that time Merrick would be sitting on the supreme court. This time around the Republican party holds the White House and the Senate so they can do what they want when it comes to nominations. It is a check and balance thing.

Considering President Trump has donated his complete presidential salary to the US Government, he certainly has paid more than $750.

While true that 2016, the dems didn't hold the senate, yet that wasn't what the senate chose to oppose the nomination. They had said, and has been thoroughly sited, and repeated, that in an Election year, that it would be unfair to the people, to not have a say in who is the next person able to nominate a court judge. Now, it is true that the WH and senate are in Republican hands, giving them the advantage to push it through. It is only fair to hold the same rules for one side to the other. Because if the dems had the senate & Trump won in 2016, wouldn't he & then the Republican party then threaten or even push to pack the court?

Checks & balances should go both ways.

He might have donated his salary, but because of his obfuscation of any truth, or the paperwork of the donation, i highly doubt that. An answer that can be easily solved with release of Trump's taxes

[going_home]

What the hell is wrong with you?

I don't agree with most of what you've said in this thread or the other one about defunding the police, but I would never makes jokes about killing you. I don't even know how to respond to that.

You know what? I'm out. I'm not arguing with people who are so disrespectful.So wait, this is about respect now all of a sudden ? You too, Going-Home. I still remember your rooftop voting comment. Your memory is failing you, I never said that. I shouldn't have let it slide then. I'm not standing for it any more.

If it were up to me you'd both be banned for a while. Disagreements and arguments are one thing. But you've crossed the line.

Good luck.

;)

[wetwrks]

He might have donated his salary, but because of his obfuscation of any truth, or the paperwork of the donation, i highly doubt that. An answer that can be easily solved with release of Trump's taxes

If CNBC doesn't question it then he is pretty likely doing as he said he would.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/03/trump-donates-his-2019-q4-salary-to-help-combat-coronavirus.html

USAToday as well

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/07/11/fact-check-donald-trump-donates-salary-but-he-still-makes-money/5410134002/

Moreover if he weren't then people from those departments would be all over the news calling him out on it.

[Nobody]

If CNBC doesn't question it then he is pretty likely doing as he said he would.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/03/trump-donates-his-2019-q4-salary-to-help-combat-coronavirus.html

USAToday as well

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/07/11/fact-check-donald-trump-donates-salary-but-he-still-makes-money/5410134002/

Moreover if he weren't then people from those departments would be all over the news calling him out on it.

Ok, i guess i am wrong about it. The proof is in the pudding, as it were.

[rawbutter]

I never said that...

Dude, I'm sorry. Seriously. You're right. I went back and double-checked, and it was wetwrks, not you.

Okay... Now I'm really out. See you all later.

[luke]

There it is again.. :rofl:


What the hell is wrong with you?

I don't agree with most of what you've said in this thread or the other one about defunding the police, but I would never makes jokes about killing you. I don't even know how to respond to that.

You know what? I'm out. I'm not arguing with people who are so disrespectful. You too, Going-Home. I still remember your rooftop voting comment. I shouldn't have let it slide then. I'm not standing for it any more.

If it were up to me you'd both be banned for a while. Disagreements and arguments are one thing. But you've crossed the line.

[luke]

Your communist attitude is astounding.


If it were up to me you'd both be banned for a while.

[luke]

Beep Beep :rofl:

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[stonersr26]

The fact that so many “supposed adults” don’t know anything about tax law and the difference between income taxes and capitol gains taxes is sad and pathetic.

[wetwrks]

The fact that so many “supposed adults” don’t know anything about tax law and the difference between income taxes and capitol gains taxes is sad and pathetic.

Even worse...I am shocked at the number of people who don’t think police need to know the majority of laws to do their jobs.

[stonersr26]

Even worse...I am shocked at the number of people who don’t think police need to know the majority of laws to do their jobs.

You ever been a POPO? I have and I can tell you that keeping up to date with all the bull**** that changes on a daily basis is ridiculous. Are some cops better than others? Yes, and some are absolutely horrible, but so are lawyers, and politicians, and doctors, and civilians and on and on and on.

Not making excuses, rather pointing out it is a bigger part of a designed system to create a quagmire of problems.

[Nobody]

The fact that so many “supposed adults” don’t know anything about tax law and the difference between income taxes and capitol gains taxes is sad and pathetic.

That might be true, but showing those experts that DO know, to show if there is either legal or illegal acts, can only do one thing. Answer all these questions. Show the taxes, end the debate about it.

[stonersr26]

That might be true, but showing those experts that DO know, to show if there is either legal or illegal acts, can only do one thing. Answer all these questions. Show the taxes, end the debate about it.

You were bit***** and moaning that he only paid a tiny amount of federal income tax, my point is that he’d be an idiot to be paying income tax when he can just pay capitol gains. The same as warren buffet or any other wealthy, intelligent individual. If I didn’t need to earn income and could live off of investments/business earnings I’d do it in a heartbeat. That’s neither illegal, immoral, or any of your or my fu***** business. I’d be fine if he released it, along with the clintons, bushes, obamas and every person in congress and senate, but you and everyone else harping on this would never be okay with that.

[Tunaman]

What the hell is wrong with you?

I don't agree with most of what you've said in this thread or the other one about defunding the police, but I would never makes jokes about killing you. I don't even know how to respond to that.

You know what? I'm out. I'm not arguing with people who are so disrespectful. You too, Going-Home. I still remember your rooftop voting comment. I shouldn't have let it slide then. I'm not standing for it any more.

If it were up to me you'd both be banned for a while. Disagreements and arguments are one thing. But you've crossed the line.
They say if you look up and scream at the sky it helps.

[Beemer]

LOL.................New York Times caught naked in bed with Trump's tax strategy, and the New York Sun exposes them.

TAX BREAKS FOR ME, BUT NOT FOR THEE..

https://www.americanthinker.com/blog/2020/10/new_york_times_caught_naked_in_bed_with_trumps_tax _strategy_nysun.html?fbclid=IwAR3aORediUrxrNul6wDe GKBNiPapWtSRIYD9VIJsrImV7Kvcun5Mtzt-sfE

[Nobody]

You were bit***** and moaning that he only paid a tiny amount of federal income tax, my point is that he’d be an idiot to be paying income tax when he can just pay capitol gains. The same as warren buffet or any other wealthy, intelligent individual. If I didn’t need to earn income and could live off of investments/business earnings I’d do it in a heartbeat. That’s neither illegal, immoral, or any of your or my fu***** business. I’d be fine if he released it, along with the clintons, bushes, obamas and every person in congress and senate, but you and everyone else harping on this would never be okay with that.

You missed my point. I fully am aware of any super-wealthy individual using a bunch of accountants & lawyers to take the biggest breaks he could possibly get, but it is ludicrous to say that:
1) he himself had stated in his own book, that it is wrong for anyone to not pay taxes
2) that trump himself had stated against Jeff Bezos & Amazon, was a tax shelter & wanted his/their books gone through so they would pay their fair share(glass houses)
3) the president upon entering the white house/duty, needs to divest himself of any of their various businesses, so no person/company could have financial leverage against the president, especially as was shown that he was, shown by the reporting, recieving foreign money DIRECTLY
4) for the past 4+ decades, every president, of both top parties, have shown their taxes, for transparency
5) the IRS has stated repeatedly, that an audit does not preclude anyone from showing their taxes
6) trump can easily end these questions by showing his taxes, but either he is legitimately hiding possible fraud, or showing the glaring holes in the taxes so that he or others can not exploit the laws
7) it is our business, as trump is currently our president & just as much as the impropriety of the Clintons and Their misdeeds, or Kennedy and his, or Nixon, or anyone; we the people should know that our elected leader is above us in legality. Does it not matter that our president is possibly a corrupt, lying, cheating, scumbag that feels that they are above our laws, laws that we all live by?
8) again, every president has released their taxes and no illegal shenanigans about their taxes, was found.
9) the only time anyone refuses to show the truth is when they are hiding something, i and most of the country wants to know what he, our president could be hiding
10) as was shown above, if i am wrong, i will state it.

[Nobody]

And we were all handing a huge dish of irony tonight.

Our president & 1st lady(possibly much more staff of the WH), has contracted the coronavirus. He has tweeted it, and issued reports. I will be the 1st to say that i hope he doesn't die from it. Only because he should not miss his loss at the election come, nov 3rd, nor the fact that he himself had spread so much disinformation about it, that maybe, just maybe all the doctors were correct. And he does not deserve to become a martyr.

[going_home]

I and my 87 year old mother had covid.
It was nothing, a two day flu.
Let not your heart be troubled.

;)

[Nobody]

I and my 87 year old mother had covid.
It was nothing, a two day flu.
Let not your heart be troubled.

;)

2 days? Then you didn't have it.

I would bet 205,000 people & counting, would disagree with you, along with all of their families.

[going_home]

2 days? Then you didn't have it.

I would bet 205,000 people & counting, would disagree with you, along with all of their families.

Ok doctor Doug.

We both tested positive and I had to hibernate for over 2 weeks....

[Nobody]

Ok doctor Doug.

We both tested positive and I had to hibernate for over 2 weeks....

Much like most things, you can't get the facts straight.

You were either asymptomatic or had a mild case, but it wasn't for 2 days. The length was from when you were diagnosed from plus the 2 weeks.

[wetwrks]

You ever been a POPO? I have and I can tell you that keeping up to date with all the bull**** that changes on a daily basis is ridiculous. Are some cops better than others? Yes, and some are absolutely horrible, but so are lawyers, and politicians, and doctors, and civilians and on and on and on.

Not making excuses, rather pointing out it is a bigger part of a designed system to create a quagmire of problems.

Not an officer...but I work for lawyers specifically updating their reference library.

I don't expect police to know every law but almost every day I see examples of police trying to arrest people for things that officers should know better on. If a civilian is required by law to attend classes to know the laws to have a concealed firearm...then officers should be required to also know those same laws. Basically if a civilian is required to know it then an officer has at least double the requirement to know that same information considering it is their job to enforce those laws. It would be like saying a doctor doesn't have a requirement to know any more about medicine than the people they are treating.

[stonersr26]

Not an officer...but I work for lawyers specifically updating their reference library.

I don't expect police to know every law but almost every day I see examples of police trying to arrest people for things that officers should know better on. If a civilian is required by law to attend classes to know the laws to have a concealed firearm...then officers should be required to also know those same laws. Basically if a civilian is required to know it then an officer has at least double the requirement to know that same information considering it is their job to enforce those laws. It would be like saying a doctor doesn't have a requirement to know any more about medicine than the people they are treating.

I don’t disagree about any of that, saw it a lot myself and corrected officers when I did see it.

I know plenty of doctors practicing medicine though who don’t know jack about what they’re doing and rely completely on what a pharma rep told them. I’ve had more than a few arguments with different doctors over the years about trying to prescribe medicines to me that have cross complications that could kill me.

[Nobody]

I don’t disagree about any of that, saw it a lot myself and corrected officers when I did see it.

I know plenty of doctors practicing medicine though who don’t know jack about what they’re doing and rely completely on what a pharma rep told them. I’ve had more than a few arguments with different doctors over the years about trying to prescribe medicines to me that have cross complications that could kill me.

You would expect that doctors should know the medicine and a majority do. But times like those is where you need some sort of regukar review of medicial practices, and not when something wrong/bad happens. Likewise for police & lawyers, you have a growing & changing laws, in addition to procedures that one must adhere to for treating people/ situations.

I know that in NJ, that police to most police, state, county, sheriff's, township police departments, and correction officers but not municipal police, require law degrees in at least an associate's degree in law/law enforcement(if i am not mistaken) in order to even apply to the police academy. Municipalities use group 2, which new recruits can bypass the academy, i believe, & work onto the force. That tells me that while some education is required, it doesn't mean that it's universal.

So while you can bypass some education to join a police department, there is no, to my knowledge of independent review to go through all the police to see if they know the laws that are supposed to hphold.

[Mps18]

Police should be licensed and when they F up they can have their licenses revoked. Too many departments hire their family members when theyre young and have no life experience to help with the situations they are placed in and react dangerously to these stressful environments.

[luke]

LOL :rofl::rofl:

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[Nobody]

LOL :rofl::rofl:

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And the Taliban endorses Trump for president. Guess when you lie with dogs, you are going to get fleas...

www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-campaign-taliban-2020-election-afghanistan (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-campaign-taliban-2020-election-afghanistan?cmpid=prn_newsstand)

[Tunaman]

And the Taliban endorses Trump for president. Guess when you lie with dogs, you are going to get fleas...

www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-campaign-taliban-2020-election-afghanistan (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-campaign-taliban-2020-election-afghanistan?cmpid=prn_newsstand)

You missed the point Doug. "Not a single person showed up". That is the point. You are a loser if you vote for these people.

[Pyrate Jim]

You missed the point Doug. "Not a single person showed up". That is the point. You are a loser if you vote for these people.

In all the campaign rallies by Trump and Biden so far, the attendance numbers are something like:
Trump = 240,000+
Biden = 84

[luke]

www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-campaign-taliban-2020-election-afghanistan (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-campaign-taliban-2020-election-afghanistan?cmpid=prn_newsstand)

Did you even bother reading that?

[going_home]

Good old Joe Biden.

You guys know his mentor was Robert KKK Byrd right ?

The Byrd that was a Klu Klux Klan member.

The Byrd that filibustered the 1964 civil rights act for 14 hours.

The Byrd that in his last interview said the word "nigger" 3 times.

Yep Joe's mentor, now you see why all the racial gaffs ole Joe has had matter.

America doesn't need a leader that has hate and bigotry .

All I hear from antifa and blm supporters is Trump is a racist, but they cant provide proof.

There's plenty of Biden proof, 47 years of it.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/must-read-democrats-using-tactics-marxist-revolution-1917-russia-steal-election/

:Flag:

[wetwrks]

And the Taliban endorses Trump for president. Guess when you lie with dogs, you are going to get fleas...

www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-campaign-taliban-2020-election-afghanistan (https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-campaign-taliban-2020-election-afghanistan?cmpid=prn_newsstand)

And China endorses Biden. Trump has no issues hunting the Taliban down to the last person. Biden will roll over and sell us all out to China.

[Pyrate Jim]

Even Putin has said that communism has much in common with the democratic party.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9zzF0DxtL8

[Nobody]

You missed the point Doug. "Not a single person showed up". That is the point. You are a loser if you vote for these people.

That is because it wasn't a rally. Only a morom would continue to hold a rally, when the country is still in the middle of a pandemic. Trump needs to hear the sycophantic chants for his ego because of his narcissism.

[Nobody]

In all the campaign rallies by Trump and Biden so far, the attendance numbers are something like:
Trump = 240,000+
Biden = 84

See above, plus as trump is apted to do, lie abiut everything, including from his staff, campaign & white house; those numbers are dubious. Especially when he has had to cancel his rallies in Tulsa, earlier in the year when, not only covid but from poor turn out.

[Nobody]

Did you even bother reading that?

Yes. Not that specific article but one from another media source. It is extremely funny, that removing a '?' made you look.

[Nobody]

And China endorses Biden. Trump has no issues hunting the Taliban down to the last person. Biden will roll over and sell us all out to China.

With so much chaos going on in this year alone, any media attention that overseas soldiers have gotten, is close to nil. Now, this is blatantly false. Trump has gone on to say, that the overseas soldiers will be home by the end of the year, but he failed to check with his Joint Chiefs of staff, as all accounts have reported that they were blindsided by this news. It would also be a "feather in his cap" to make the claim that the taliban were all defeated, thus allowing the troops toncome home. But his act of doing so would greatly destabilize those areas, much like Syria with ISIS, and the political ramifications of countries like Turkey playing big brother, like what has happened in Armenia & Azerbaijan.

China, i think, wants someone more stable in mentality. But anything to do with China is a harry situation, that i can not really begin to unfold.

[Nobody]

Good old Joe Biden.

You guys know his mentor was Robert KKK Byrd right ?

The Byrd that was a Klu Klux Klan member.

The Byrd that filibustered the 1964 civil rights act for 14 hours.

The Byrd that in his last interview said the word "nigger" 3 times.

Yep Joe's mentor, now you see why all the racial gaffs ole Joe has had matter.

America doesn't need a leader that has hate and bigotry .

All I hear from antifa and blm supporters is Trump is a racist, but they cant provide proof.

There's plenty of Biden proof, 47 years of it.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/10/must-read-democrats-using-tactics-marxist-revolution-1917-russia-steal-election/

:Flag:

:rofl:

Oh yes, dems want to make sure everyone who is able to get a vote, to vote. Dems want to make sure everything is fair & unbiased. That is the whole agenda, because they put a patsy as the Postal Service head to torpedo mail in ballots. That is why they are making sure that there is no voter intimidation, which trump has said he would do.

Now, by use of Biden's apparent mentor, by that logic; if this guy was a racist, then Joe is a racist? You could apply that logic that someone who surrounds themself with criminals who have been convicted of fraud & jailed, would then be the same, criminal & should go to jail.

Your attempt at a rational argument is laughable. It makes no sense. Damn allen, i knew you aren't the smartest person but i didn't think you would be the same level as a window licker.

The fact that most racists, do not associate with anyone who is not the same colour as them. The meer fact that Harris is part Indian & Jamaican is ludicrous to even have those 2 thoughts together.

Keep it up, you make me laugh, :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:

[Nobody]

To put it simply. The Republican candidate has bungled this past year with handling of covid. He is inept at protecting the people from enemies foreign & domestic. He has polarized any racial issues with his inability to even lie(something he loves to do) on action for the people. His economic reforms benefit only himself and not the majority of people. His economy is in the trash by inability to act succinctly and immediately when most of this year could have been saved. He has insulted any soldier serving or has served this country. His greed is monstrous(foreign interests & including charging the US secret service a bill when they stay at his properties). His moronic approach to the country's environment is laughable(nuking a hurricane, tree exploding, wind electricity is different than any other electricity). His undermining of the countries rights to vote in free & fair elections. His backing of domestic terrorist groups/militias is repugnant, as well as his inability to condemn such groups.

Trump will be famous, that much is assured. If Biden, as president doesn't unleash the IRS & DOJ for his cheating of the taxman, at least NY will do it.

[going_home]

Are you moving to Texas too ?

[Tunaman]

Are you moving to Texas too ?
He is staying here in his trailer in NJ where he belongs.

[Beemer]

He is staying here in his trailer in NJ where he belongs.

I thought he was moving to Venezuela.

[luke]

Yes. Not that specific article but one from another media source. It is extremely funny, that removing a '?' made you look.

I missed the gotcha part from the link, was it simply a confirmation bias headline that got your attention?

[Nobody]

I missed the gotcha part from the link, was it simply a confirmation bias headline that got your attention?

I was actually surprised that trump didn't accept them, but i guess he is fine with domestic terrorist groups, the foreign ones need not apply...