Intelleframe eating Sear?!

[Rock Star]

well i was just wondering if the intelleframe wore down the sear more than the other mags. seeing that the intelleframe holds the sear at 6mm and the e-mag at 20mm. i heard this somewhere on pbnation.com.
-jared

[Miscue]

? Um, no. That's something that electro grips do once in a while because they flick the sear so fast.

[Predater]

how can a grip fraim wear out a sear? the sear isnt hooked to the fraim. if the trigger rod is set right its the same as the stock frame. i think it is set the same as with the stock frame but not sure. i love mine thow and it hasnt wore the sear out.:rolleyes:

[Rock Star]

ok guys i was just checking :)

[BlackVCG]

I think you're getting solenoid dwell time mixed up with sear holding position and the Hyperframe mixed up with the Intelliframe.

The I-Frame is purely mechanical so the only way you can eat up the sear is to have your trigger rod adjusted improperly.

The Hyperframe has a solenoid dwell time of 6ms ms = millisecond. The E-Mag has a solenoid pulse of 30ms. This means the E-Mag holds the sear down for 30ms and then releases it. This keeps it from eating the bolt and damaging the sear. The Hypeframe pulse of 6ms is too short and will eat bolts.

[Dubstar112]

Black, my hyperframe hasnt worn on my bolt or sear yet.. over 6k shots... (one battery too!)

[steveg]

Just to elaborate a bit on what Black said.
(This is all speculation, but it sounds good to me;))

When you pull the trigger on a manual frame, the bolt blows
forward,returns,bounces a few times against the bumper
and then settles.

THEN you release the trigger.That is if you are practicing
good trigger hygiene, ie full pull,full release, no short stroking.

If you can fire 8 rps, that would be 125ms per shot.
according to Tom the bolt cycle time is 25ms.

So manual firing, the bolt returns and settles before you
release the trigger, the sear hooks the bolt and then opens
the on/off pin.

The emag with a 30ms dwell time emulates your finger, holding
the sear until bolt return and settle.

The hyperframe(yes I do have one) has a 6ms dwell time, according
to the above. So something different happens. The dwell is 1/4 of
the bolt cycle time so instead of holding the sear down for the entire bolt
cycle, the sear now rides against the bolt on the return stroke.

With the standard length pin, the valve can open and
pressurize the bolt on its bounce, before the the sear
is properly set. That is why the bolt seat has all the sear
tip shaped gouges in it.

If you use a longer than standard on/off pin (CF now does)
the sear can properly latch BEFORE the air is released.
End of chipping. Also I have read but not yet tried, that
an RT bumper reduces the bounce(that IS why they are different)

CF could increase the dwell time to 30ms like AGD with a corresponding
4 times or greater decrease in battery life
But the longer pin seems the better solution, for them

[Butterfingers]

Microsecond= 1e-6 seconds or 0.0000001 seconds symbol=U
Millisecond= 1e-3 seconds or 0.001 seconds symbol=m

a 6 microsecond dwell time would mean the sear moves mach 2.5 :)

Yeah I know it is dwell time the sear dosent move during dwell. But mentioning mach 2.5 sounds real cool. My mag breaks the sound barrier 2.5 times per cycle!

[BlackVCG]

Whoops! Thanks for catching me on that one. I fully intended to say millisecond, which is actually what it should be, but said microsecond instead.