RT on/off to automag

[janiK]

Does Automag RT On/Off assemply fit in 68automag?

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[Poseidon]

no

[speedballbanks]

yes it does sorry to burst your bubble poseidon i used to have one in my mag and you can actually feel the reactiveness if you dont believe me try it yuorself makes it a little softer too.

[Poseidon]

ohhh, wow. I never knew that. I thought the RT on/off was bit diffrent. Thanks for clearing that up.

[speedballbanks]

it is different the automag on off will not fit in the rt though so they are a little different but the rt valve will in fact fit on the mag valve.

[janiK]

It fits :D
Thank you for answers!

[speedballbanks]

no problem

[ramsee1]

Are you fellas talking about the retro valve on/off assembly? I'm not sure if RT and retro are interchangable words. I posted a while back asking if there was any advantage to taking retro valve parts and putting them in a standard valve assembly; i'm curious if this qualifies. Thanks!

[speedballbanks]

yes they are both the same pieces and 35 dollars i think is worth it because it actually makes it a little reactive and i am not sure but i thought the flow was better.

[ramsee1]

I thank you for your answer, Sir.

[speedballbanks]

no problem just one thing........DONT CALL ME SIR lol i am only 16

[PyRo]

Originally posted by speedballbanks
yes they are both the same pieces and 35 dollars i think is worth it because it actually makes it a little reactive and i am not sure but i thought the flow was better.

The on-off has nothing to do with shootdown. The stock flows plenty fast for the mag. What causes shootdown is the air traveling through the hole in the middle of the reg seat, while the pin is through there. This makes for a very narrow space.

[speedballbanks]

notice i said i thought maybe it did maybe it didn't but it felt like it did and it did become mroe reactive so yeah you are right about the flow but i felt i didn't have shootdown.

or shall i say as much.

[PyRo]

Unless your pulling 10bps+ you shouldn't get shootdown. Maybie you were shortstrokeing, and the rt on-off helped.

[speedballbanks]

no i don't really shortstroke but i think because of the little reactiviness helped me shoot a little faster and i can shoot 12 1/3 balls a second over a pact chrono so i dont think short stroking is an issue (but that was with my retro valve) and whats weird is i can only shoot an angel (completely stock) 10 a second over the pact chrono.is there some kind of limiter on the angel>?

[ramsee1]

Shortstroking is pulling the trigger again before it comes to its resting forward position right? I don't know if that's what I am doing, but at times I definitely notice the balls dropping when a shoot a rapid string of paint. I seriously doubt my fingers can pull 10bps. Now I am not challenging what you're saying, but something is amiss somewhere are my marker then. I saw on ebay someone was selling custom on/offs. I know many people on here are of the opinion that aftermarket parts aren't any good. So short of buying a retrovalve there's nothing to increase air flow?

[speedballbanks]

nope nothing really just stick with it all stock maybe the rt on off for a little reactiveness but yeah save your money and get a retro that way and yeah thats short stroking if your balls just fall out of your barrel.