Retro Valve or Hyperframe?

[phish]

I need some sort of upgrade so i can spray some more paint. What do you think a trained finger could shoot faster with, an RT valve or an electric grip of sorts?

[GallagherAtWar]

i think defently you can shoot faster with a hyperframe

Chri$$

[Panzerr]

The Hyperframe is garbage. You can shoot faster with a retrovalve and a double trigger. Garaunteed.

[TheTramp]

Get the Retro valve. If you have some extra cash add an Intelliframe to it.

[Xzion]

My vote would have to go to the ReTro Valve and Intelliframe or Z-Grip, shoots fast, and you even get the ReTro Valves Reactive Trigger! WOO HOO! :D

[beam]

Hyperframes are pretty sweet. How available is nitro for you? A retro requires only nitro. That is why I opted for a Hyperframe....don't regret it one bit.

[Quiet]

I vote retro, the hyperframe is nice but..

1 - less can go wrong with it
2 - no batteries
3 - lighter
4 - people surprisingly don't seem to notice it until its too late
5 - still redicoulously fast

Get a 2x trigger for it.

[BTAutoMag]

hyperframe all the way

[paintbattler]

retro valve

[BartManSr]

Do both, then you'll have the best of both world's.

[RT_Luver]

Retro valve, then intelliframe. the answer to any ROF question

[Linx]

Both have good and bad.

Hyperframe
(1) No short Stroking
(2) Can still use CO2
(3) Burst and Hypermode
(4) Can set ROF so you don't outshoot your hopper
(5) Intelllink to your Warp
(6) Short trigger pull

Retro
(1) If you get good you can get an insane ROF
(2) Trigger kick is awsome
(3) Faster recharging valve
(4) Can use the Intelliframe which feels better then the Hyperframe grip
(5) AGD makes it, so the support will be great. (Centerflag isn't bad either)
(6) Unlike the HyperFrame, the Retro valve will not damage your bolt, sear, or on/off pin. (I just sent my Mini to CenterFlag because my sear was rounding and not catching the bolt anymore. Plus my on/off pin has been replaced twice!)

Overall I think either is a great upgrade. My field owner gave me a great deal on the HyperFrame so that's what I chose. But I have been very happy with it dispite my recent problems with it. Both will give you a high ROF. Pick the one that has the most "good" traits that intrest you.

[minimag187]

Hyperframe all the way, the hyperframe isnt garbage either, a very nice piece of equipment. I love the intelli/retro combo also.

[RaV3n_Pa1ntba||]

get the hyperframe and level 10.

I win :)

[magman68]

Retro,save your money with the "go retro program"so it only cost 200$

[mrbrutal]

My buddy and I split on this. I went hyperframe and he went retro. Our style of play differs a bit. Im more of a frontline impatient type where he is a bit more calculating. I love the hyperframe. The trigger pull is very short. I havnet had any problems with the stock valve keeping up with my rate of fire even when I have the semi mode maxed out to 13bps. If possible, see if you can handle a hyperframe just to get a feel for the grip and the trigger. If you like it, get it. Otherwise go for the retro. I may at somepoint upgrade to a retro but I will go lvl 10 before I do that