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splat11756
04-04-2002, 11:35 PM
Hey,i was looking for everyones advice. i was scammed. i lost my gun in a trade. after a little work. i located the guy and got all his info and sent it to him in an email. this scared the *EDIT* Do not cuss. Army out of him and he decided to overnight me the gun and the money i paid to ship it. SHOULD i bring up charges of mail fraud on him?:confused:

azheat99
04-04-2002, 11:44 PM
Post who it was so others can avoid him. That is, if he's a member of AO. I'd be happy just to get everything back.

TheBigRaguPB4L
04-04-2002, 11:55 PM
You can't bring up mail fraud on someone that his fulfilled his end of the bargain. Whether his intent was to scam you or not, if you get your gun, nothing illegal was done. Maybe give warning to others, but really there's nothing more that you can/should do. I wouldn't suggest slandering his name either cause that just results in a flame war where no one wins, turning into he said, she said debate.

splat11756
04-04-2002, 11:56 PM
people like this make paintball trading and reselling bad,you can never trade with confidence anymore, thank ogd for third-parties, i know i will be using them know 9not you guys the person i traded with)

A word of advice: Make sure you get a telephone number of where you will be sending your item to trade to, call it and make sure its correct

shartley
04-05-2002, 05:15 AM
people like this make paintball a bad sport,you can never trade with confidence anymore,
Well… this really has NOTHING to do with the sport of paintball. It is a “trading” issue….

And I agree with TheBigRaguPB4L... let it drop.

cphilip
04-05-2002, 08:00 AM
Sentence structure... changes the whole meaning doesn't it! :rolleyes:

pip_999
04-05-2002, 08:33 AM
i think that there is nothing you can do, plus there was no legal binding contract mad e(im guesing) which would make it bad, because then there is no evidence to prove anything. even if there was his end of the deal has been fullfilled, the only way taht you might be able to get anything out of it was if the ocntract said that he had to send it into a certain amount of time

splat11756
04-05-2002, 09:02 AM
i did not mention that this guy impersonated a paintball store(paintball maxx). He said that we would use them as a third party, we did not the package was sent to his house. I never received my end of the bargain, I just got my old gun back.

Croix71
04-05-2002, 09:10 AM
Well I'm glad to see you did get your gun back. I'd let this one go since you did get your stuff back. Hopefully this was just an isolated incident?

pip_999
04-05-2002, 12:43 PM
how did u end up tracking him down?

splat11756
04-05-2002, 01:52 PM
i got some info on his comp, using so programs i have:D :D :D

splat11756
04-05-2002, 01:53 PM
just basically found out where he was dilaing from

PFAutomag33
04-05-2002, 02:11 PM
I think it is too bad there are people like this online. But, I don't think you should bring up charges because he probably already learned his lesson.

Quiet
04-05-2002, 09:28 PM
Find him and beat him, beat him like a foster child:(

mountaindud
04-05-2002, 10:40 PM
Originally posted by splat11756
i got into his comp, using so programs i have:D :D :D

If you didn't get his info by doing that you'd have a solid case, but hacking is looked down upon by most juries I'd assume, if you got your gun/money back I'd just let it go.

splat11756
04-05-2002, 10:43 PM
i repeat i did not hack, i sent him a link which would send me his ip address with his ip address i was able to find out the location of his computer

mountaindud
04-05-2002, 10:48 PM
Originally posted by splat11756
i repeat i did not hack, i sent him a link which would send me his ip address with his ip address i was able to find out the location of his computer

Really? What program is that?

splat11756
04-05-2002, 10:56 PM
methodus toolz 2.0 the program in it is called ip stealer

magdude25
04-06-2002, 12:34 AM
oh yea ?? where did you type in his IP to get his adress ?

shartley
04-06-2002, 05:38 AM
splat11756
I would advise posting a total retraction of your IP Statements before someone lays it all out for you....

(Note: I HAD prepared a LONG post detailing how your statements were just not accurate, BUT I have promised AO Staff that I would not get into this type of conversation on the open forums again… oops, I almost slipped. LOL)

Mango
04-06-2002, 06:07 AM
go to his house, pull him out of bed at 3am and tar and feather him. Then poke him in the eye and scream "I HAVE POKED YOU IN THE EYE! WITH DEMOCRACY!" *

*taken from pokey the penguin.

splat11756
04-06-2002, 11:12 PM
spraying mango said it all! off to his house i go!!!!! lol:D :D :D