Blue C&C Extreme PICS!!

[AGD]

Guys,

As promised here are some nice pics of the blue CnC!!

AGD

ps final testing LVL10 tonight, keep your fingers crossed!!

[magman1031]

wow those are awesome!

[AGD]

low res jpg and hi res at link. closeup TIF (http://www.automags.org/~TomAGD/cnc_blue02.TIF) (600k)

[Bonx0007]

Fingers are crossed!Great pics!!!Do you have it in Green?:D

[AGD]

one more...

[boggerman]

Very nice, I like the clean lines. Can you give us a little more info on lvl10 yet? Is it the result of the long travel bolt/valve combo you were asking questions about a few months ago(Would you settle for 9-10 bps if you never chopped a ball again?)? C'mon, just a little hint, please.:) :)

[Manuel_FZR]

I love the c&c ... :) ... looking forward, to have my own one.
I will keep my fingers crossed ...
Another question: will the c&c gripframe and batterypack (the milled one) later be available?

[Havoc_online]

Tom, that gun is something to be proud of.

[Will Wood]

I wish I could have one, short of a little thing called money. The things I would do for one of those.....What is the expected price? $1,100-ish?

[-§on-]

Oh my god, thats one of the sweetest guns I've ever seen. That makes me want to buy one. Then I look at my wallet after I buy one and then I cry.

Needless to say though, I might buy one sometime after this year and another thing....Nice Job :D

[G-Rexx]

Sweet deal Tom , sweet deal. Now, I need to upgrade MY EMAG!!! :D

[Temo Vryce]

Dang that is sweet. Some one want to buy me one? :D

I don't think the Lvl10 has the LONG nose bolt because the halo video is using an E-Mag with the lvl 10 mod and it's firing at 20 bps.

[The Frymarker]

Tom, that is a handsome design and milling job, kudos!

[manike]

Originally posted by The Frymarker
Tom, that is a handsome design and milling job, kudos!

Thanks ;)

:D

manike

[Gecko]

does look great Manike, awesome job
Gecko

[The Frymarker]

Your very welcome Manike, compliments are just derserved!:D

[BartManSr]

Love the clean design. I do wish there were some milling on the fore grip.

[Dubstar112]

OMG! That is so cool, whats the status with warp- breeches?

[speedballbanks]

man


















:eek: < he is speechless

[Schnitzel]

wowser...GR8 job

[Clare]

I love it! http://www.pbreview.com/forums/images/smilies/love-struck.gif

[BTAutoMag]

i am truely in love. i feel like selling my beast for 200$ and putting a downpayment on one.





but i wont. i just wont eat for a year.

[speedballbanks]

Originally posted by CaPoEiRa
I love it! http://www.pbreview.com/forums/images/smilies/love-struck.gif


lol that is the best face yet.

[BTAutoMag]

god this is te 4th time ive come to se it. i cant stop. they should call this an Angel and not thos others because this is GODLY.

AGD IS GOD




EDIT: Does it come stock with the freak?

[Will Wood]

That would we sweet if it did. When you order it could like choose what insert you want, or get all of em!

I think that's going on my background its so amazing.

[epterry]

*gets kleenex to wipe up drool*:D I like it :D wow:D

[CRASHKING]

im getting blue it looks so sexxxy and in that type of shade(what do you call that sandblasted or something) it is so cooooool loooking

[joeyjoe367]

Wow, Lookin' Good there, AGD!

I'm waitin' for lvl 10 over here tho

[Shail]

That has to be the best looking paintball marker I have ever seen. I would love to get one of those. Is it much lighter then a normal emag?

[Bonx0007]

Ok Tom how did Lvl 10 testing go???

[Jonno06]

i am SO buying that gun...eventually!!

(maybe after I finish eating my bag of Swedish Fish)

[paintbattler]

AWESOME..i love that gun..can u show me a red one?

[gibby]

Let me be the first to say...W00T!!!! ;)

[BlackVCG]

These guns are incredibly light. And with the ACI tank, the whole setup weighs even less.

[Bonx0007]

I can not wait till everything calms down and daves concept body gets made. I would love to see those. These are awesome too. These pics are my new wallpaper

[Bonx0007]

Are these coming standard with a Freak and one insert???:eek: or is that just for show?Looks awesome BTW!:D

[VBmag87]

God that is awsome!!!! I cant wait to get one!:)

[Daroach]

ohhhh *drool* that gun makes my Freeflow look silly... and i only bought it for looks.

Tom, wanna trade? Freeflow Racegun for that?

[Minimag4me]

yea at least mill the battery casing with at least something simple(like proteam but even better), its so ugly plain like that. And maybe a valve with a continuous look, not stepped like this one. Just some constructive criticism:). I love the rest of the gun though. I want to see one in black. Too bad i cant afford one yet.

[CRiZO]

very very pimp. One suggestion though, maybe some different grips? They seem sorta... plain. I dunno, just a minor detail. I'm so pre-ordering one.

[RT_Luver]

hey Tom...AGD IS AWESOME. you have to be the GREATEST pb company around. I mean, you actually ASK the customers what they want(designs, logos, etc..) and take in the info and put it to work. I mean, i dont think there is ONE other company that does that. and the C&C Extreme is Heavenly looking, I still can't get over that I'm getting one:D

[SlipknotX556]

So Sexy!

[BTAutoMag]

OMG Tom! i just thought of the best billboard idea. too bad its too late!!!

"Looks and Preformance... Something most men only dream of."

[KamikazePenguin]

I know it had been mentioned, but I don't recall a definite answer, will E-mag owners be able to send in their E-mags and upgrade to an Xtreme, or a C&C extreme body w/ ACE? If so, will they be able to keep their mainbodies and body rails or will those be kept by AGD as part of the conversion? I'm satisfied enough with my E-mag right now that i wouldn't buy a new C&C; just the level 10 stuff. But, if I could upgrade my E-mag to a C&C Extreme, i'd be all over it.

[ubooze]

I agree Minimag4me! Mill the foregrip, and make some sort of new looking valve. Maybe let the frames take DYE Stickies? I know about the display, but just let people cut it out. Also, why not color coordinate the LEDs? Jsut some ideas. I mean, if you make the body look nice, why not make the whole package awesome?

[Magluvr]

Just out of curiousity, what is that screw coming out of the feed area. Is it part of a ball detent? Also, did AGD decide to make their guns accept cocker barrels? I hope not because I love the mag barrels. They are more money, but what is ten dollars in the whole scheme of things.

By using cocker barrels, doesn't the mag's accuracy go down a little bit. I heard that the main reason mags shoot straighter than Spyders and what not is because the ball doesn't have to hop from the breech into the barrel. You may say this is hogwash, but until I get another good explanation of why mags are more accurate I'm going to stick with this hypothesis.

[Bam86]

Can any one tell me any more info on the lvl. 10 mag upgrade i have no real clue what it really is just tell me a generlization of it plz or something. Any info will help.



Bam!!!

[BTAutoMag]

ok by making it accept cocker barrels TK solved a few probs.

no more barrel wobble

youi can remove the breach and pull a suegee through anyways

and accuracy is not the case, its all about consistancy. at 300 fps the C&C and a spyder will be the same accuracy. but its all about consistancy. with consistancy comes accuaracy cause you know where your next ball is going.

there are a few more but i cant remember

[BTAutoMag]

Originally posted by Bam86
Can any one tell me any more info on the lvl. 10 mag upgrade i have no real clue what it really is just tell me a generlization of it plz or something. Any info will help.



Bam!!!
its a mod thats spose to prevent ball breakage

[Bonx0007]

Is it just me or does it seem like everyone was living in a cave for the last few months?

[Clare]

Is it just me or does it seem like everyone was living in a cave for the last few months?

I know I have! :D

[BTAutoMag]

i was thinking the very same thing

[Vegeta]

Pimp Tom, Pimp.

[RSUAVE911]

Ok I have a suggestion and 2 questions.

I will go with the suggestion first. If you held an E-MAG you know the grip is not for the small handed so for those with smaller hands to get a better grip and not change the frame itself, get Dye or AGD to make stickies. I have heard polls and I think I heard the Dye is making them but no confirmation on any of this but that could be cause I have been out of it for a while, so let me know.

1) Will all extreme's be coming with the freak stock and if not what will it have on it?

2) When and will you make Dave's design, not saying this current C & C isn't amazing but Dave's design was insane.

THANKS :)

[Yudanja]

That is the best looking marker yet. Very nice work everyone at AGD! That is my dream gun =)

[rolo2169]

This is going to be one awsome Gun!!! I hope I can upgrade my Current E-mag and not have to sell it. The autococker threads are nice.

[Ov3rmind]

That.... Looks..... Sweeeeeeeeet. That's the coolest Mag I've ever seen. If it had a 1x trigger option and some sort of wrap around grips, it would #1 on my list of guns to eventually buy (Until then, I think the Viking is still my favorite electro). Of course, that's just preferance, I'm sure this baby rocks performance wise! I'm glad that a lot of the stuff that I was hoping would be done to the Mag was finally done (Cocker threads, aluminum body, and a low rise vertical feed. The normal E-Mags' vertical feeds were horrendously high. Plus the eye is also sweet, and the cool milling is also welcome). A job well done AGD, this will hopefully get you guys the attention you deserve.

[BTAutoMag]

Originally posted by Ov3rmind
If it had a 1x trigger option and some sort of wrap around grips, it would #1 on my list of guns to eventually buy

why 1x?

[Croix71]

Looks Goood! Me Likes!! :D

[liigod]

Originally posted by BTAutoMag


why 1x?

because some people perfer it.

[einhander619]

I know I'm gonna get ripped a new one for this, but I don't like it. Two reasons, mostly. If these could get fixed, I'd love it just like everyone else. First of all, that notch in the body exposes way too much of the valve. It would be fine if the valve was all one surface and not stepped like it currently is. The other problem I have is that the barrel sits too high up off the battery case, which I agree should be lightly milled. I'd like to see some better grips on it, too, so dye had better get off their collective duff and make some! Other than that, it's pretty darn sweet, but I'd rather have a normal extreme then have someone do the milling. That frosty anno job is tasty looking, though!

[Top Secret]

What drop rail is on that Flatline?

[PowerFedMag]

I like the SFL better, cuz I think the milling looks more.......natural??? hahah, its hard to explain.

[codgarrett]

thats real purty

[Manuel_FZR]

I really love the c&c xtreeme. I can´t wait to hold my own in my hands :cool: (with lvl10, ACE, WARP, Flatline 4.5k ... just dreaming ;) )
Will there be a pewter one?

[Lorquas]

Originally posted by CaPoEiRa
I love it! http://www.pbreview.com/forums/images/smilies/love-struck.gif

I love it too! http://www.pbreview.com/forums/images/smilies/agree.gif .... in my own way, of course ;)

[rpm07]

dont like.

[John Sosta, AGD Europe]

This is our first C&C design. We wanted to make this first one, very light, and mill off as much excess as was physically possible, and we based this on requests from you guys. We will produce different designs, in limited runs, the next one will probably be more cosmetic based.
Each design is very expensive to produce, particulatly in the design stage, so it would be nearly impossible for us to make small chnages for individual orders.
Everyone has different tastes, so we have to go with the design that appeals to the majority.
We will eventually offer a limited run of C&C Battery packs & frames, along with the circular battery pack and blade trigger, but it won't be for awhile, as we're swamped at the moment milling this C&C design.

[Thordic]

Just an idea I had...

You should use a SS sleeve on the valve that sits up against the step in the valve, so it looks like a continuous cylinder. I can definitely see why people would not like that visible step in the valve. I think a sleeve would be a good idea. You could probably use Al too, but I don't know if the colors would match, and if you anno'd it to match the gun it would look weird.

[manike]

Thordic, already thought of and being looked at.

It may be possible to have colour coded sleeves which we can cut through to and thus hi-light the inside of the milling :)

I'm just finishing the CNC code for my gun body which will allow us to test this out.

ATB

manike

[Thordic]

You still havn't made your weird lookin extreme? Get to it, man! We all want to see :)

Good to hear about the sleeves, though. I think something that simple might do a lot for the looks of the gun. I, for one, really like the way its cut, and if that step wasn't there, all the better.

[John Sosta, AGD Europe]

When Manike first came up with this design, we were looking at the possibility of implementing a valve with a larger air chamber, that did not have the "step" down on it. That valve would have been a smooth continuous valve, so there would not have been any step visible. Since then, with the evolution of Lev 10, we have found that the low pressure valve isn't as necessary, and as it is not as gas efficient as the std valve, we will most likely go with the current valve.
The inside of the Xtreme bodies are different for each of these valves. For the standard step down design, we have a step inside the body for the valve to butt up against.
To use a sleeve over the std valve, the inside of the body would have to be reamed open. We might also have problems holding the sleeve in position, particularly as it would need an acurate hole in it for the on/off assy.

[RobAGD]

Jsut a note that Drop on that Blue C&C is Abob Long Apoc Drop. They have just enough to make the gun not long and give you an awsome shooting stance. Very very repeteable and comphy.

I just has to take that Shocktech 5.5" drop off it was fugly and icky to shoulder. While i had the gun I was thinking about breaking it in correctly but that was shot down by Tom :)

Anyway

-Robert

[Manuel_FZR]

What I´m interested: Will there be c&c gripframes? As far as I know, they will not come with this model. But will they later be available?

[John Sosta, AGD Europe]

Manuel
Take a look at my post a little further up.
We plan to offer the Circular battery packs, Blade triggers, C&C Battery packs & the C&C Frames in the future, but not straight away, as we will be running our CNC Mill to capacity just C&Cing the bodies initially.

[cphilip]

So when's the "cphilip" model gonna be ready? The C&C&C? ;)

Nice work guys nice work...Got a total wieght on this rig to share with us? Metric is fine I can convert! :D

[manike]

Originally posted by cphilip
Nice work guys nice work...Got a total wieght on this rig to share with us? Metric is fine I can convert! :D

EFL...

:D

[cphilip]

heh.... :(

[paintbattler]

Originally posted by cphilip
heh.... :(
whats that mean?

[cphilip]

He won't tell us...

[manike]

In all honesty Phil I can't remember, but the prototype body was something like half the weight of the stock body! and the grip frame was also significantly lighter than the ULE version... so way, way lighter than the original E-mag frame.

Lighter than the SFL, hence EFL...

manike

[cphilip]

Oh well you have no idea then what I thought the "F" stood for... Extra F'in Light? :)

So maybe with tank and warp on it full rig about 7.5 pounds? Since the current config comes in around 9 or 9.5. Nice!

[manike]

More appropriately...

Extremely F'in Light :)

[Pand0ra]

Am I dreaming or the battery pack is already slightly milled on this version (which I should get in a few days hopefully ;) )?

[Top Secret]

Dang now I have another gun to save up for. Guess my "regular, boring, and heavy" Emag will suffice for now. :D

[kevdupuis]

Drool is right, I almost shorted out my keyboard.

My problem is that I live in canada and have to spend almost twice as much to own one. :(

[DCWnek14]

looks good. i just love surprises.

[DCWnek14]

i think its time it comes out!~!1!!!!~~!!!!!!!!

[RT_Luver]

I keep looking at it...and I'm still in awe

[RT_Luver]

Originally posted by John Sosta, AGD Europe
Manuel
Take a look at my post a little further up.
We plan to offer the Circular battery packs, Blade triggers, C&C Battery packs & the C&C Frames in the future, but not straight away, as we will be running our CNC Mill to capacity just C&Cing the bodies initially.

let me get this right...(i'm always a step behind people) in the future..your planning on making milled battery packs, milled triggers frames, and circular battery packs..but your really to busy to make them now? if so...sweet, I'm lookin forward

[Linx]

For those who don't like the space under the barrel.

[manike]

Funky :) but eewwww :D

[Linx]

Reminds me of a push me pull me :D

[marley618]

I like the space.

[Linx]

Actually, I do too. i just thought I would post this for those who didn't.

[PAINTBALLA01]

:drool: :rolleyes: im going to have one of these some day:rolleyes:

[Ov3rmind]

BTAutomag,
I just find 1x more comfortable. There are a few other people on here that prefer 1x also (I remember an old post requesting a 1x frame for the normal E-Mag), but I doubt it's something we'd see soon on the E-Mag anyway.

[Jonno06]

guess whos getting an extreem emag as soon as they come out;)

[manike]

Originally posted by Jonno06
guess whos getting an extreem emag as soon as they come out;)

me?

:D

[Nomad]

Unfortunately not me.... No cash.... Not until like two years from now.....

[Pand0ra]

me2 me2 :)

[Sledgehammer]

I got one, I got one (not a C&C though) :D :D :D

[Gecko]

look just because you wrote the code that mills the bodies doesn't mean you can lord it over us! (I would be doing the same exact thing) :) Hows your milling pattern coming? Looked pretty slick last time i saw it. Hopefully by next semester i'll have access to some mills and edm machines to cut up my extreem body.
Gecko

[Top Secret]

One more thing, are the new grip frames going to be smoothed out? I'm getting sick of cutting my middle finger on the sharp edge just below the trigger guard when i run with the gun.

[WARPED1]

I don't see the big deal on these extremes,they're just a fancy lookin emag to me,who cares if they can do 20bps,soon every gun needs to be capped at 13.

[OldSchoolMag]

Warped1, the point is that they CAN do 20bps, with NO shootdown. That means, that if/when capped to 13bps, you won't have to worry about shootdown (when the consitency drops) and you'll have some very solid strings. Plus, the E-Magnum board from modified paintball goes to 20bps.

Plus, the Extremes are lighter, because so many people regard 'Mags as overweight. So, by dropping the weight, they become lighter (obviously), and you can ... well, I really have no idea why that matters - I've never had any problems shooting my RT, and until someone mentioned it to me, it didn't even occur to me that my 'gun was heavy.

Also, they accept the more common Autococker barrels. These reduces barrel wobble, making your shots more likely to be more accurate.

Let's review - consistant, accurate, light, and very very purdy. Are you sold on one yet?

OSM

[pntbawlrmz]

top secret i hear ya on that one? is anything goin to be smoothed out under the trigger or will i just have to build up some tougher skin??

[Yanto90986]

yah know you guys,
i really DON'T like this whole thing, i like the clean look of the Regular mags... if there was a trigger frame that was electronic but not so freaking ugly and messy, i would consider going back to electros...untill then: I'll save up for the ReTro Valve
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~
68 Automag classic P/F hopper left
TKO gas thru fore grip
CP lightning DF
JANKY Crossfire 47/30
12volt revvy
eMAG Barrel

HOPING TO GET SOON:
warp feed
ReTro Valve
NEW BARREL( HOW's the ACI zero gravity?)
possibly a trigger frame(electric if a nice one comes out, probably intelliframe or other 2x finger frame)

[Yanto90986]

WOW am i embarassed... as soon as i finished writing up that comment i saw it.... The Center flag HyperFrame... GO Electros!

[Minimag2002]

I Know Am Going To Be Flamed For This But... I really Dont like them the Middle and back are Cool but the space under and around the barrel drives me nuts and the battery pack is freakin bulky and ugly not to mention the trigger frame. Tom I love what you Do but This Mag Could Use A Little Work

[Jonno06]

hm.......

i like the space,and i hope that thing gets smoothed out under the frame.....

[Panzerr]

That pic at the top of the page is really ugly.

[Mango]

I think the front would look cool with teeth carved in it! They could make it a yellowish/gold color and call it the "AGD LION" special edition marker!!!! MAYBE?! :D