TOM KAYE"S Earliest AUTOMAG FOUND!!!!!

[cphilip]

Yes! I found it! I told you earlier about Toms first invention of the Rock and stick...then the rock and hollow stick..well there was a later development...Although we have not found that very first rock and hollow stick I have discovered his very first "Automag" prototype that he built.

We speculate that this was built by Tom in Mr. Laneys Shop class back in 1969. It was his first marker that would do 20 RBPS (Rubber bands per second). Now this was the first time Tom was allowed to use power tools. Under carefull supervision of course. Note the routed edges and pine body. Surely not a finer example of his early work has been discovered?

http://cphilip.mystarband.net/images/Automag%20wood%202.jpg




:D

[manike]

I'll bet it was the fastest rubber band gun in it's day :)

manike

[cphilip]

Still is! And does not chop!!!!! :cool:

[manike]

Will it run on any type of elastic bands?

[cphilip]

Well...not brittle ones too good. Must not be level 10?

[manike]

Can I get an electro grip frame upgrade?

And does it have more range than a paper dart?

[cphilip]

I can probably hang a 9V off it?

I think it can shoot darts...I got some and will try.:D

[manike]

Can you change the wooden barrel for a longer one to get more range (actually that would probably work...)

I wonder if Dye would make you a barrel for it? (shtystick :) hehehe )

manike (who ought to go to bed now... really I am going... honest...)

[WickeDKlowN]

i herd that the Bud Orr AutoBander shot farther with more accuracy.

[manike]

Yeah but it's slow and hard work to look after... and if you split the grain only a qualified carpenter can fix it...

manike

[WickeDKlowN]

i thought you were going to bed, lol

[cphilip]

I would try and fit a Oak barrel to it but its such a collectors item I might just leave it stock...

[cphilip]

I smell a contest...

Tom Kaye can give away a Mag..then so can I!

Muhahahahaha!

[WickeDKlowN]

how?

[cphilip]

Rules? We don't have rules here! We make em up as we go along. I will post them up when it starts. However you will be required to beg for the Mag and covet the mag and extole the virtues of the mag! In addition to finding the mag

[marley618]

Do they still do e-mag conversions for those?

[tsc]

Hmm...Can that be converted to Z-grip? What about anodizing?

[cphilip]

Yes you can covert it to an emag for about $1000.00

No anno Sarah...Varnish though!

[Clare]

oh! oh! pick me! pick me! Id like to get my hands on that baby!


:D

[cphilip]

Hey maybe heather could make some nice mahogany grips for it?

[Vegeta]

They used to make the old Crownpoints for them but they made this horrible pinging sound after the bands fried off them. I hear they even made ones with a copper tipped end for faster and smoother rubber band laoding. Some people in the early 70's tryed taking out the trigger mechanism and replacing it with a full auto one, allowing for the rubber band wheels to spin, achinving high ROF, but thsi was soon banned by the NRBPL (National Rubber Band Players League). In the late 70's I hear that Bud Oar (oar = intentional.. get it.. OAR... wood.. ahhhhh!) put a ram autoloading system on it becuase he was too lazy to put hte rubber bands on himself. But the Automag still was best left stock. Owners would accasionally put on several diffrent stains, varnishes, or finishes on theirs, trying to achive a more one of a kind feel. Then, in the early 80's, the woods game took over and people started Camo Taping their guns to make them more hidden in the bush. eople soon realised this was a mistake, since hte sticky tape took off any varnish or stain finishes, and also the indiscreetly printed, bold, black letters, "AUTO MAG" on the side. Some people tried a "Reactive Trigger Frame" which screwd on with hosehold wood screws and used a system of springs nad a new sear to fire two rubber bands- once on the pull and once on the release. In the late 80's Tom developed the AUTOMAG RUBBER BAND RT. this gun had a reactive trigger driven on the rubber band power that would 'kick back' the trigger, giving hte user the ability of finding that "sweet spot" to get bursts of rubebr bands on his gun. This was truly revolutionary and until this day has never been topped in the rubber band gun industry. Late in the woods game many bush players made their own barrels out of wood. These players thought that longer barrels increses accuracy. In reality, this cuased over-strechting of the rubber bands and breakage of the bands. This breaking, and other injuries cuased by players getting hit in the eyes with rubber bands prompted the NRBPL to make special googles approved for rubber band gun use required when playing with rubber band guns.
In the early 90's, Tom came out with a revolutionary new rubber band gun, the E-Mag rubber band gun. This gun had a solenoid actuated RT rubber band system in it, allowing for full auto speeds of 20 RBPS. THis was a major breakthrough in Rubber Band Guns, and is also, what some say, provoked Tom to endevour into the world of paintball guns, leading up to his release or the Automag line of PAINTBALL guns in 1991.



See, without THAT GUN we would not have the automag as it is today.

[Bartleby]

did anyone else notice how for about the first 10 posts of this thread, the replies were made up of 3 different people? :D :D

[Bartleby]

i'm sorry, make that 15 :D :D

[AGD]

Yea but you know what? I betcha it still works!!

AGD

[Havoc_online]

lolol, that's funny, i bet so too

[The Frymarker]

Cphil you want some grips for that baby!!! LOL That is the funnist thing I have ever seen!!!!!!


If you really want the grips I'll make them, If you want imitation Ivory I can probably do that for you too scrimshawed also. What about some stag grips make it all nice and purty.

Let me know, hey can it shoot peas?????:D

[dansim]

get me that and ill convert up a warp feed for it

[Jonno06]

lol.....do they have one of them Go Band programs?

trade current spinning wheel for a ReTro Wheel....i heard it allows you to shoot 26rbps without shootdiwn:D

[Creative Mayhem]

If I had a camera I'd show you guys my Bud Orr Autobander. Everything they say about it is true.... all distance all accuracy..... all crap!

Kinda like the real thing huh?:D

[RT_Luver]

kinda odd how someone posts a pic of the first AutoMag and about half way throught the thread we get the entire history of AGD as it stands(well i guess)

[SPOOKI]

After much searching we found it!!! The 1968 WGP autobander! PROOF that there was a better gun even way back then!;)

[Bartleby]

you put way too much effort into that one.

[WickeDKlowN]

lol

[paintbattler]

thats a pretty nice find..

[WickeDKlowN]

SPOOKI, but does it still work? lol

[paint magnet]

lol is there an official "complete history of the automag" thread?

[Patron God of Pirates]

This must be a Tippmann

http://www.kitestailstoys.com/catalog/toys/images/rbdevastator.JPEG

[SPOOKI]

You're in the right ballpark Patron. That was the prototype minigun to be mounted on the Tippmann Hell-Hound. (which at the time was a tricycle with a weedeater motor attached) But good observations!!! Keep it up.

-Lance

[SPOOKI]

yeah, it still works but the thing is HELL to time!!!

-Lance

[paint magnet]

Or you could call it a prototype SMG-60, since it's sorta full auto and only holds 20 shots...

[magsRus]

wow a gun that gives splinters