Calling on AO

[Butterfingers]

could sombody generously post a pic of this waveform for me.

http://9375.adahost.com/images/emagnum_20bps.wav

How many shots do you see...

sounds like a motor dosent it :)

[krafty]

The computer I'm at won't let me do a picture of it, but I took the 1st second of it and blew it up in Cool Edit. 20 pulses. Looked VERY evenly spaced out, too.

[Load SM5]

Did you have Taco Bell for lunch? That was gross.;)

[shartley]

Here is a Cool Edit Pro shot... yup... 20. Count them. :D

[Butterfingers]

avg peak amplitudes are the same too... you know what that suggests... no shootdown YAY!

[BTAutoMag]

wow that sounds pretty cool.

[shartley]

Yes, VERY consistent. I am impressed... not so with the other claim made here on AO... I posted a shot of that as well...:rolleyes:

But hey, even at 14-15BPS that is still fast for those other guys. Their claims however, or 22BPS are unsupported.

[wyn1370]

but they are doing it on a semi. unlike the emagnum on full auto. that's why the emag has nice evenly spaced pulses. I'm not claiming I believe the other guys, but it's still darn impressive.

[synreal]

looks like 20.5bps to me ;)

i'm guessing the secondary peak is the bolt reseting/sear catching.

[shartley]

Go read the other thread. ;) Like I said, even at 15BPS it is impressive... but to claim double shots per spike? I just don't see it. Also to claim 22BPS in semi? LOL 15BPS is impressive in Semi.. even in FULL.. they should have left it at that....

[wyn1370]

yeah I read the other thread, just couldn't decide which one I was going to reply to. guess I should have picked the other one.

[synreal]

impressive, you bet....22bps..nope

i count 15bps (which is still VERY nice)

[Butterfingers]

Originally posted by synreal
looks like 20.5bps to me ;)

i'm guessing the secondary peak is the bolt reseting/sear catching.

Darnit you caught us ;)

Yes that is most likely the bolt resetting. Its about 2/5 of the way down so seems consistent with the 20 MS cycle time quoted.

When we get L10 installed whenever it comes out ill post another waveform so you guys can figure out if L10 is faster or slower than the original.

You guys are really gonna have a hard time when we get the e-magnum to break the sound barrier... LOL JK.

[Butterfingers]

This is also a testament to the time and inginuity AGD put into the RT valve system. Would you guys beleive me if I told you that this wav was created on a gun using a simple Nitro Duck screw in HPA system outputting 780psi @ 2000psi at the time of testing.

How about if I told you the tank dropped off around 80 psi @20bps so the gun was only seeing around 700psi and as you can see the RT valve system stayed consistent.

I wouldent be surprised if the valve system exceeds its claims.

20bps without shootdown PSFT! yeah right, AGD stop underrating your guns!

[Vegeta]

lets say on average the bolt moves .75 inches every cycle... at 20 bps, that means the bolt it traveleing on average of 122.72 miles per hour...

If the bolt was to break the sound barrier, that would mean we would have to shoot at 114.07 cycles per second.

Here is the math if you wanna see how i got that:
.75 (bolt travel) x 20 (cps) x 12 (inches in a foot) / 5280 (feet in a mile) x 60 (seconds in a minute) x 60 (minutes in an hour) = 122.7272727272... Miles Per Hour.

to find the latter:
700 mph (est. avg. speed of sound) / 60 /60 x 5280 / 12 / .75 = 114.07 cycles per second.
its just reverse.


pretty cool huh!

[covadsucks]

That is so tight...I need to get an EMag now.

[BTAutoMag]

Originally posted by Vegeta
If the bolt was to break the sound barrier, that would mean we would have to shoot at 114.07 cycles per second.

you saying tom cant do that. but then again i dont want a sonic boom every time i pull the trigger.

[AssassN]

WTF!?!?!?!?!??! DOES THAT MEAN A PAINTBALL GUN BROKE THE SOUND BARRIER?!?!?!?!??!?!?!

[AssassN]

O just kidding read it wrong

[BTAutoMag]

well i think that 122.3mph is realistic because at paintball mover at 204mph when it leaves the barrel (300fps)

[Kaiser Bob]

Butter, youve said you have gotten it to go faster, push it to the max and get a .wav! :)

[BTAutoMag]

i wanna see how fast the valve can accualy go.

like get a board with no limit and put it to 23 on full auto with no balls then 24 then 25 and so on until it misfires.

[WickeDKlowN]

yep, thats 20 bps

[Butterfingers]

Originally posted by Kaiser Bob
Butter, youve said you have gotten it to go faster, push it to the max and get a .wav! :)

Yep... I would have done it today if Don Didn't theif my scuba tank last week. To get 30 BPS you have to keep the input pretty high.

[Kaiser Bob]

Do it soon butter, the world must see the power of 30 bps!

[Kaiser Bob]

You must squash all comers and push it to where no other has/or can go! the big 30! I expect a .wav by tomorrow! :D

[FordPrefect]

If we did get a valve that goes 115 cps, Tom would need to make a way to silence the sonic boom!

And I want to hear 30 BPS really bad. Put a warp on and a really long hose + a Halo B. You might actually put 30 balls in the air.

[Butterfingers]

I can tell you putting 30 balls in the air is highly unlikely unless L-10 is faster than L-9.5 (superbolt).

The wav should be produced by this weekend.

[FrAuStY]

30 bps would be nice... doubt its possible to shoot paint at 30bps, since there won't be enough time for the paintball to get fully chambered. Who knows..I could be wrong.. a long time ago.. 10 bps was hard to reach. Now we can shoot 20 pbs and continually looking up. IMO if you can't hit comeone with 10 bps... you should stop playing paintball. Find another.. cheaper/easier sport for you ;)