LVL 10 Video #2 "Within the Range"

[AGD]

AO,

The first vid we released was met with skepticism because people felt that since this was at the edge of performance it was unusable and did not reflect reality. I want to assure you that this video is well within the normal operating range.

The paint is 2-3 bounce PMI Advantage and the gun is shooting about 280. When you see the ball pop back out that is NOT from blowback. There is no blowback because the gun is not shooting a ball just dry firing. The ball is being kicked back out by the bolt pinching it out of the way!! All other shots the ball is getting pinched except for the last one where I put it all the way down and it gets shot out.

The stuff holding the ball is black electrical tape and YES it does get shot out normaly with the last shot.

Enjoy,

AGD

Within the Range 500k (http://www.automags.org/~TomAGD/lvl10pinch.rm)

AVI 4 meg (http://www.automags.org/~TomAGD/LEV10D.AVI)

[Tk]

thats soo sweet

[Tunaman]

and I think you are on to something there TK.....WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

[FactsOfLife]

to quote myself..... "hot damn". sign me up!

[cphilip]

Thats lookin nice!

[paintballrulzs]

nice nice. HOw long until we can purchase this?

[plaser]

I had to type the address in manually,it looks
awesome,thx Tom.

[Bwaites]

Tom,

The AVI file doesn't work, I can't install Realplayer on this computer. I'm at work. Can you please fix the AVI file?

Bill

[deweasel697]

WOW :0

[AGD]

AVI fixed, we are in the chat room talking about it.

AGD

[Magluvr]

There is NO doubt in my mind anymore, I'm buying the Level 10 as soon as I get the money, and my parents let me!!!

[virus]

so why do we need to have an E-gun with ACE again??????:D :D :D

[Bwaites]

Thank you, it works.

Seriously, that is cool. Wish you could have installed it in my EMAG while it was there last week!

Bill

[Yatta!]

My sig says it all.


Yatta!

[keiphers]

Thats amazing!

[Dubstar112]

I dont know what to say.. damn.. :)

[cphilip]

A couple of things Tom said in chat...

Shipping maybe as early as this week if all goes well.

MSRP at $85 but special discount to AO and $25 off for superbolt trade ins. AO will get as many as 200 units through the online store as Beta testers so Tom warns you to wait if you are not completely sure you want to Beta test. But discount only to Beta testers so dealers will not be unhappy.

Its user installable. You do not send in your marker.

The new SS Superbolt II in this lvl 10 mod is only 8% heavier than the old deldrin superbolt was.

Video 2 was made using a 2-3 bounce "medium brittleness" paint.

[TXStorm]

[bravo voice] ohhhhhhhhhhhhh momma [/bravo voice] WOW THAT IS SAWEEEEEET

[dansim]

looks nice but doesnt tha elimannate the need for ace?on a different note i was using my 1r3 today and i could feel the bolt stop on the ball and reset..it was kinda cool, maybe my batteries were just dying o well

[AcemanPB]

wow that was the second most amazing thing i've seen

(with an e-mag doing that a 20bps being first of course)

[brodude2002]

sweeeeet. purchase form? Online ordering? when will this take place? soon i hope, cant wait.

[magman007]

:eek: sweet!

[pbjosh]

Must say, I love the Job you guys did. When Can I get one for my old Mini?

I just set up a Cocker today that would do the same. Just banged and burped till the ball came out. Very Good Work! and that made me think-

I want to see you stick your finger in there. That is the real show of bravery and trust in your product!

Joking,

Josh

[FooTemps]

..................:eek:................

ME WANT!!! OOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! SOO COOL!!!!! I MUST GET ONE TO SHOW OFF AT THE FIELD!!!

[wes]

yay fun

[MagNumPI]

DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I need one! i'm the ONLY mag on my field, i need to have the best edge possible!!

[Potatoboy]

I think a lot of people are missing the fact that not only does the bolt bounce off the ball unharmed, it will do it multiple times in a row and still fire that ball completely unharmed. If you have any other marker do that it might work the first few times, but 10+? *and* still fire the ball without it breaking in the barrel?!

[freek133]

With sopranos mob voice,
"just when i thought i was out,... they pulled me back in"

[Dubstar112]

Tom, I noticed the breech area moving some, why does that happen? Is that just because of all the holes and mods you done to the thing?

[Havoc_online]

Tom, I can't wait to preach the level 10 pro-magness at my field. There is more than a few MAJOR Tx teams that are there who almost no one shoots mags.

[KamikazePenguin]

from what I can tell, the beta kits will be $65 with superbolt trade in, plus the AO discount. So, even lower. VERY affordable. Count me in.

[cris8762]

i have GOT to go find another mag (the deal i had on a mini fell through:( ) so i can take this to the field and wow all my friends with it's awesomely awesome greatness!.... what is the AO discount gonna be?

[mag59459]

I can't get either link to work, they just don't play, what do i do?

[LaW]

Tom- question... with my superbolt trade in (still on the way) when i purchase right when they are available will I also get the AO discount (it would be over the phone but still)

[KamikazePenguin]

if we buy a beta L10 and there is a revision, or a re-machined part or some such, will beta-testers get this part or will they be stuck with beta parts? Also, will there be some sort of markings to indicate it's a beta version of the L10?

[RT_Luver]

that is just SICK...good bye are the days of when mags were known to break paint

[X-Plosive]

Okay but the question is what rate does the new bolt cycle at? Faster than the original Long Nose SS...slower than the Original Superbolt?

[Nomad]

All hail Tom Kaye, the very embodiment of brilliance!!!!

[rx2]

I missed the announcements in chat. As they say, you snooze, you loose!
Anyhow, would someone be so kind as to recount the major points from the discussion. I am particularly interested in the aspects of the beta stage AO discount, and how one would take advanantage of this offer.

[MajorDamage]

Tom! Dude! You keep making me crap my pants!!!!! :D:D:D!!!

ENDO!

[RT_Luver]

Originally posted by X-Plosive
Okay but the question is what rate does the new bolt cycle at? Faster than the original Long Nose SS...slower than the Original Superbolt?

I'm not certain...But I belive hearing SOMEONE say that their wont be a noticable change in cycling speed

[LittMag]

I can feel my wallet lightening up already (gotta get 2 for both my mags) :D

[rikkter]

ALL AO members get discounts? like including me even though i haven't been here awhile?

[TransMan]

im guessing its any AOer that wants to beta test

[Bonx0007]

ooo my emag is waiting!

[Miscue]

Originally posted by RT_Luver


I'm not certain...But I belive hearing SOMEONE say that their wont be a noticable change in cycling speed

There is NO change. :)

[DiRTyBuNNy]

It would be cool if they could laser letter something like "AO Beta" on the beta LX's...



hey...i just thought of something up there...the new Level 10 mag's could know be called the "Automag LX"..for Level X (10)..just like Mac OS X...heheehehhe...that's pretty cool...oh Tom....oh Tommy Boy..have i got an idea for YOU!!!

[Oregon_pb_]

when are the extreme's gunna be released?


I sold my angel now, so i'm gunna preorder one within the next week.

Any idea on a price and color for C&C?

[Manuel_FZR]

Great!
Can´t stop grinning :D ... I really can´t wait to have the lvl10 upgrade.

Tom, thanks for the good work ... you are really a god! This will bring the mag back on the paintball fields ... And I hope to be one of the first to have one of those crazy lvl10 upgrades.

[terrorizer666]

this is just GREAT !!!! Unbelievable ! I want this STUUFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF !!!!!

[alf]

tom,

i have a question about what will happen to the ball when a warp feed/halo b (with the spring loaded catch cup) is attached...

the balls are under SOME tension (into the breech) already, and may not have a nice place to go when they get pinched...

just wondering.

-alf

[manike]

Alf that is perfect, the ball will stay where it is (which is better than it bouncing back up) the bolt will retract and the ball will continue into the breech ready to be shot.

manike

[X-Plosive]

Lvl 10 actually slows the bolt down...way down to just over 20bps...ain't that terrible!!!:D:D:D

It's still the fastest gun in the world!

You could call it a two speed upgrade. The bolt starts moving slow, then hits full speed

Army from PBN which is the very same Army from AO made the above statement. So which is actually correct? Will the cycling speed of the bolt remain the same? What time does the bolt remain closed in a normal automag? 25 ms? I know Miscue said NO change but I am still curious.

[vaypourus]

I am very impressed. I was planning on waiting a while, but this looks extremely promising...:eek:

[Shail]

That was completely amazing, I am diffently going to get the level 10 uprgrade for my emag. This is going to put mags right back where the belong... BACK ON TOP!!

[ShooterJM]

Must.....beta....test! This is gonna be awesome! Wait till the field sees this!

[InfinatyBPS]

just wondering, is that the emag in E mode or manual because the trigger looks realy long for an electro...

[ICOM]

tom i would kiss you for this lvl10 if somehow you were a girl.. Anyway LOOKIN SWEET

[Will Wood]

hm...Me like

[liigod]

now im guna take my friend up on that offer for himt o give me a mag.

[VBmag87]

wow nice!!! I want!!!

[Zargou]

European ppl will be able to get LVL10 beta by AGD europe ?

[71 LS6]

WOW, thats all I can say. WOW

Tom, you are amazing.

[Fanatic]

maybe this is a liitle ways away but..

do you all think that we should ask Tom to make an mag body that is made from plexy glass composites ..
making it "see through" so all questions can be answered..

[Kaiser Bob]

Im actually working on the clear mag body, who knows when ill actually have one done though. :confused: