m-o-u-t use advice needed

[rjvemt1]

ive read about big games and scenerios being played on military base 'mout's(military operation in urban turrain). fort hood, texas, has a huge one (atleast it did when i was stationed there) called st. elijah village.does anybody know what office someoe would need to contact in order to get permission to use it?

[Jonno06]

yea,there is one here in FL too...they usually have scenerios there like every year(read in pb magazine)

ide love to play on one,seems fun

[rjvemt1]

most of the big games, 24hr games and scenerio games i read about take place in florida.you guys must have some awsome fields and field operators!

[Army]

Contact Ft. Campbell's Welfare and Recreation office. They have full use of that MOUT range 2 times a year, which includes a big scenario.
The ladies there should be able to help you, and tell you which command to contact.

Since Ft. Hood's St. Elijah range is right next to the highway, I'm betting some civilian use is, or has been, authorized before. Contact Ft.Hood Range Control to see if it is possible.

[rjvemt1]

army, did you get info on the mout in-line? ive ben looking and cant find any. thanks for the tip that sounds right, now i just need to find a field in the area to host it. maybe get a trade show organized. we would probaly get players from all over texas since ft hood is cental. ill send you guys an invite.

[headcase]

Yeah talk to the range contol guys. You might want to talk to Pappy as well, I'm sure he had to deal with some of the same issues when trying to set up the field out at BLORA.

[rjvemt1]

You might want to talk to Pappy as well, I'm sure he had to deal with some of the same issues when trying to set up the field out at BLORA. this sound familliar but i dont remember who this is, do you have more info?

[Jonno06]

yes,florida owns all of you....even me...ok,maybe not me:)

[headcase]

Pappy = Dan = Owner of Black Market Paintball.

Black Market Paintball = Field on FT. Hood(BLORA), field in Killeen, use to have a field in Temple, store in Killeen, and I beleve a field in San Antonio. Ask over on these boards about where/how to contact him http://www.pbubb.com/ubb/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi

good luck

[paintbattler]

ive always wanted to play on one, they look cool

[DarkRipper]

When were you at Hood? I was there from 89-91.

:)
First Cav... 1/5.

DR

[rjvemt1]

86-89 13support command armor support battalion, 63hotel, m1 abrams mechanic

[headcase]

I was there long after both of you.

98-00

1/44 ADA 4ID(Force XXI)

14S Avenger Crewmember

If it flys it dies!

[DarkRipper]

Ah, sorry. I was 11M/11B20 Infantry team leader.

They were just starting to get the Avengers in when I was getting off active duty. Neat little dune buggies.

:)
DR

[rjvemt1]

headcase,did you play paintball while you were there? are there a lot of players on post? since i started this thread i have come to find out that a guy named pappy from blora(field in killeen) tried to get permission to use the mout and he was told no.i was thinking that maybe a large petition headed by somebody with a little rank(who plays paintball)might help open the door.

[headcase]

Yeah I played, but only a couple times on post when I first got there. A guy that worked at the PX figured out how to get us permission to play on some of the training areas(NOT the MOUT)

After that I played at both Constant Action fields, the old Black Market field in Temple, 3PG(Power Plant Paintball Games -- no longer around).

Since I played mostly in Austin, I didn't know all that many military people that played. I have found that the MAJORITY of the military I've played with tend towards the wooded fields, and since I was not into that, I didn't have much contact with the military players.

I'm not suprised that Pappy was turned down, but he does have that BLORA field(which is on military land as far as I know) so he should know who to talk to. Try posting in some of the rec-ball/scenerio boards on PBC/PBN and Warpig to find out info about the games held on Campbell's site. Get the contact info for the woman(?) who runs that, it probably is your best bet.

DR--

I really dislike 11Bs-- while I was in Korea I supported 1/503rd INF (AIR ASSAULT) I did a lot of walking as a dismount that year. Fortunately I didn't have to carry that stinger, had a solder to do that for me. :)

[rjvemt1]

alright, here is what i have so far: good contact leads in florida and texas for advice and the petition plan.i was also thinking about a multi-field hosting set-up, so that fields all over texas can register their local players and supply them with paint. this will get lots of fields invlved and the potential income will give them an incentive to push the event forward. i havent thought about co2 and n2 yet. this week im gonna go up to ft hood and find the range marshal and check the waters to get a feel for how they feel about it, suggest a recruiting and pubic relations angle as a benefit to the army.
I'm not suprised that Pappy was turned down headcase, why do you say this, is there a specific problem? i would like to keep this thread going for advise and suggestions so if this all comes together ill make sure free registration is given to ppl with solid advice and such.and just so you know that im not just some sh*ttalker, in '92 i biult a 34000 square foot indoor field on the san francisco peninsula, the first fieldon the peninsula. so keep it comin guys, ill get this figured out!

[headcase]

No not really...........it's just from my experience with the military they aren't going to let their very expensive "playgrounds" be covered with paint without many reassurances that the mess will be cleaned up.

With the right pitch, and the right people behind you, I'm sure it can be done, and done well, but I don't suspect it will be easy or quick.

Good luck to ya

[Army]

No not really...........it's just from my experience with the military they aren't going to let their very expensive "playgrounds" be covered with paint without many reassurances that the mess will be cleaned up.


Which is why I suggested to contact the Ft. Campbell Rec & Welfare office. Those ladies know who to contact, and should have either refferences, or which command to talk to. Posts all run the same, so it should be all the same offices to contact.

Oh, try MX Sports www.mxsportz.com . They run many scenarios at MOUT ranges. Contact Mother and get info from her. This is likely your best source for info.

[DarkRipper]

Originally posted by headcase


DR--

I really dislike 11Bs-- while I was in Korea I supported 1/503rd INF (AIR ASSAULT) I did a lot of walking as a dismount that year. Fortunately I didn't have to carry that stinger, had a solder to do that for me. :)

What are you trying to tell me here?

:confused:
DR

[headcase]

I don't know.

Not much I guess, just babbling about my personal dislike for 11B in a work capacity.

Of course since I am no longer active, I give much love to all Men/Women in the military, because since they are serving, I don't have to.

[rjvemt1]

I really dislike 11Bs hey dont worry we mechanics had an even worse relationship with tankers (19d i think)we called em 'dat's;dumb *ss tankers they could take a multi million dollar machine designed to withstand a direct missile hit and totally screw it up!

[DarkRipper]

I can't recall the 11bs caring one way or the other about the stinger jockeys, we were out to get the engineers and tankers.

:)
DR

[Army]

Ahh, and then you DATS, DABS, grunts and "Injun-ears" all must, sooner or later, return the weapons and other equipment to me....where I ream you a new one for breaking "MY" guns! ("But Sarge, we got it that way!"):cool:

[DarkRipper]

Originally posted by Army
Ahh, and then you DATS, DABS, grunts and "Injun-ears" all must, sooner or later, return the weapons and other equipment to me....where I ream you a new one for breaking "MY" guns! ("But Sarge, we got it that way!"):cool:

haha :)

You let them call you sarge? "A sarge is a fish, boy!!"

;)
DR

[rjvemt1]

but i did get it that way, i swear!:D

[DarkRipper]

I remember basic training... I managed to break the front pin on my M16... the armorer (a angry black woman specialist) started yelling at me... I yelled right back.

:)

Fortunately, she was only a specialist and totally unprepared for a PV2 to yell back at her.

:D
DR

[rjvemt1]

ok, i just e-mailed mother from mxspotz and also spiro from black cat productions here in texas, im gonna cross my fingers and see what comes back. ill head up to ft hoo later this weak, anybody want any (i know im gonna spell this wrong)suveners;)

[DarkRipper]

Originally posted by rjvemt1
ok, i just e-mailed mother from mxspotz and also spiro from black cat productions here in texas, im gonna cross my fingers and see what comes back. ill head up to ft hoo later this weak, anybody want any (i know im gonna spell this wrong)suveners;)

I'd take some 1st Cav stickers from the Museum shop!! Let me know where to send the check.

:D
DR

[headcase]

Originally posted by DarkRipper


I'd take some 1st Cav stickers from the Museum shop!! Let me know where to send the check.

:D
DR

Make sure he goes to the right museum, that place has at least two of everything! Two PXs, Two Commisaries, Two Museums, 3 24hr Shoppettes, at least 4 class six's so on and so on. Going to Korea from there was quite the shock.

[rjvemt1]

my barracks were right across the street form the shoppette closet to the gate. ar you talking about some historic patches or do you want the 'horse,field,stream' patch, ihink you can get those just about anywere. bt if you want a coupe of the historical ones ill pick up a couple for you maybe we can trae fr a patch from a pb field in the richmond va area.

[DarkRipper]

It's the one down the street from First Cav headquarters... it's got a bunch of tanks outside (including some I helped capture).

:)
DR

[DarkRipper]

Originally posted by rjvemt1
my barracks were right across the street form the shoppette closet to the gate. ar you talking about some historic patches or do you want the 'horse,field,stream' patch, ihink you can get those just about anywere. bt if you want a coupe of the historical ones ill pick up a couple for you maybe we can trae fr a patch from a pb field in the richmond va area.

No no, I have tons of patches. I want the stickers you can get at the museum. From the main gate, turn left at the Corps headquarters and drive um.. south about 4 blocks? I think... it's been a decade, gimme a break. On the right should be a First Cav museum with tanks outside.

Inside that is a little gift shop with the stickers I'm talking about.

I have many cav patches and such.... but thanks for the offer.

DR

[rjvemt1]

no no no i men ill trade you the cav stickers for patch from one of your local fields. i do know wich museum you mean its got some light artillery outside also and thing about elvis i put yu on my bl ill pm you when i get a chance to go.

[DarkRipper]

I'll have to dig around. I have some patches and such that I can send you, Challenge Park in Illinois, some Airgun Designs patches, etc. I've got lots of neat stuff like that, not to worry.

PM me for my AIM name.

DR