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geoffmel2002
07-09-2002, 10:11 PM
Ive always heard people talking about Autococker timing and havent figured out what it is. How do you do it? Where? How Much?

btw

Which one do you think I should get

Red 2k2 vertical feed cocker
Red Dye Stickeys
WGP Flame Drop Forward w on/off
12 volt revvie
68 cu/3000 psi Crossfire Nitro Tank
WGP Hinge Frame

Or

Polished MiniMag
14 inch Lapco BigShot Barrel
On/Off Drop Forward
BenchMark Expansion Chamber
12 volt revvie/Crossfire Nitro

Restola
07-09-2002, 10:21 PM
http://www.paintballresource.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=437

There is a thread with some info about it. Also a very good message board if you are looking for a good "General" forum.

TransMan
07-09-2002, 10:32 PM
i think Ravi has summin about timing cockers at http://paintballravi.com (http://paintballravi.com/index.html)

As for which gun to get i would go with the Mag but thast because i prefer mags i would advise you to shoot both and get the one that feels right to you

plaser
07-10-2002, 01:09 AM
Here is some great reading material on autocockers,
it really made me understand how they work.

www.moodypaintball.com/vantrepes/pages/articles.htm

Thordic
07-10-2002, 06:53 AM
Timing a cocker is just optimizing the firing sequence. You have a bunch of moving parts that need to be moving in sync with one another. Timing makes sure those parts are moving at the right times, relative to each other. A perfectly timed cocker will shoot more reliably and faster than a poorly timed cocker, which which shoot poorly, and possibly not at all.

The basic things you do are adjust the timing rod length (determines when the three way opens), the sear lug (determines at what point during the trigger pull the sear loses contact with the hammer), and the pump rod length (how far the back block sits, or how close).

It generally sounds more complex than it really is, www.paintballravi.com is where I learned. I timed my cocker successfully on the first try, by following Ravi's suggestions, and it worked well.

Both those guns seem like nice setups, its really up to personal preference. The cocker setup is probably worth a little more money if that matters to you. If you can, shoot a mag and a cocker, and buy whichever one feels more "right" to you. They have VERY different triggers and balances.

Just a note, there is no point to having an expansion chamber on a mag using an HPA tank, I'd gut it if you can, or get a gas-thru grip.

DarkRipper
07-10-2002, 01:01 PM
http://www.elpirata.info

;)
DR

RT_Luver
07-10-2002, 01:42 PM
i think it is how high the sear in the gun sticks up and how long the trigger pull is. well thats what i think. i had an autococker but always had all the ppl that knew what they were doin fix it when ever it broke(which was often)

FutureMagOwner
07-10-2002, 02:45 PM
im a timing master(god i have to do it so many times because i try to make my pull in half then realize why i chopped 10 balls in a row) so if you got any questions just ask because that stuff is kinda dated on ravi's but most of it still applys

mykroft
07-10-2002, 03:00 PM
Considering that the stuff on ravi's is significantly newer that the Autococker, it apply's totally, unless youare timing a hinge (Then the 4-way adjustment gets reversed)

AcemanPB
07-10-2002, 03:18 PM
if you are worried about timing and all that just go with the mag, but both are great guns

(btw do they make a 14inch bigshot? i thought it was 11.5?)