What kinda paintball gun is this?

[CRog075]

Well, my uncle siad he played paintball a long time ago and had a gun to give me, it looks like a PGP pistol but what year is it? ITs all metal with woodish plastic grips. Heres a bad pic of it (the tape is off the grip now, he put it on there for better hold)

[CRog075]

pic:

[HoppysMag]

its a old Sheridan PGP! you cant really tell with out asking sheridan... but its older:D

[CRog075]

How old is it? What year is it? Thanks

[FreshmanBob]

If you give me the serial number i can give you more of a precise date but I'm almost positive it is pre 1990, maybe 5 years older.

[CRog075]

One more thing, how much you think I could get this gun for?

[CRog075]

D 09656

Pursuit Marketing, Inc.
Northnbrook, IL 60062

Thats all I found on it. So I hope thats the number

[HoppysMag]

ya its old then ( PMI distrubited Sheridan stuff in the 80s)

no clue on the year... sorry

[CRog075]

Damn thanks, up for anyone with info on like year and value.

[CRog075]

up

[Cannon-Fodder]

I think (not sure) that that model was made around 86-87.

Note that this model has the knurled (spelling???) pump handle and does not have the ball detents in the bolt, the detent was in the pump handle.
When I started playing 88-89 sheridan had switched over to the new bolt but you still saw some of this model floting around.

hope this helps

[Aranarth]

My best advice on finding value is to go over to the kingman forums (yes, kingman :) ) and ask ottersc. He is a real big pump person, and has many pmi's. Always picking them up and selling them.
-AranarthX

[FeuerFri]

go to www.ottersccustoms.com (http://) to see some of the pics of pgps otter has redone, he has alota older ones like that with before and afyer pics where he got one totaly mangled and fixed them up, prity cool. definatly ask him, he is a moderater at www.kingmanusa.com forums

[CRog075]

Thanks alot guys for the help, you guys are great.

[SqueegeeKid]

Check out the PGPOG (PGP owners group) If anyone'll know, they will.

http://www.airsoldier.com/~pgpog/index.html

[paintbattler]

man, thats awesome

[CRog075]

Originally posted by paintbattler
man, thats awesome

the gun? :confused:

[joeyjoe367]

hey, isn't webbie looking for old guns?

...he probably owns one already :p

[irbodden]

Guys, it isn't worth anythings. I remember a guy a couple years ago, KP Customs I think.., who was selling them for 20 a piece in that condition..

[CRog075]

Originally posted by irbodden
Guys, it isn't worth anythings. I remember a guy a couple years ago, KP Customs I think.., who was selling them for 20 a piece in that condition..

That dont sound right, mayb a diff version of the gun.

[kemikos]

Originally posted by CRog075


That dont sound right, mayb a diff version of the gun.

There's so many old, beat up PGP's floating around that they don't pull in that much. Keep in mind that they cost around $100-120 brand new, with all the modern updates that make it easier to play with.

That one might be worth something to a collector, just because of the age. I'd guess you might be able to get $50 or so for it, if it works OK. Maybe a little more if it's upgraded at all (by a professional shop, that is; "garage mods" were very common back then, and usually lower the value a bit).

[OtterSC]

first off, thank you all for the mention. :)

that is a PGP. looks like in fair condition.

has front and rear sights. brown grips... original. knurled metal pump. age is around 1986-1989. however, it doesn't have the ball bearings. knock that down to 1984-1986. i would lean more towards 86 if not 85.

not bad at all. you have a nice one.

if you sold it as is on ebay, you could get $50-$80 out of it. though, some of the hard core PGP'ers will buy it for $40-$50. they figure that there are plenty around. i sold two of mine on ebay for $60 & $70. about the same age and with custom wood grip panels.

there does seem to be missing an end cap for the ball magazine (top tube). is it missing? if missing, you have two options. actually, three.

1) get a piece of aluminum. about 2" long. drill and tap for a set screw to secure the tube to the marker. you may need to make an insert to secure a 10rnd tube in place. it would look like the pic below.
http://www.ottersccustoms.com/Pics/d015030-o.jpg

2) find a replacement end cap. i may have one. not sure.

3) contact Marshal Founder from the paintball marshals. he has a nice design for a "speed loader" it is similar to what i have on my KP3. stick the tube in, point the marker down, push lever. no worries about loosing endcaps.
http://ottersccustoms.com/Pics/kp3-3.jpg

hope that helped some.

OT: my newest acquisition... bolt action K2. :)
http://ottersccustoms.com/Pics/k2-1.jpg

[Webmaster]

SC Otter is correct on his estimations of worth. $50-$80 would be a good price frome someone on ebay. Not horribly valuable - but nice.

Id take it off your hands - as I collect old guns - but Im broke right now...

[alkafluence]

Originally posted by OtterSC
first off, thank you all for the mention. :)

that is a PGP. looks like in fair condition.

has front and rear sights. brown grips... original. knurled metal pump. age is around 1986-1989. however, it doesn't have the ball bearings. knock that down to 1984-1986. i would lean more towards 86 if not 85.

not bad at all. you have a nice one.

if you sold it as is on ebay, you could get $50-$80 out of it. though, some of the hard core PGP'ers will buy it for $40-$50. they figure that there are plenty around. i sold two of mine on ebay for $60 & $70. about the same age and with custom wood grip panels.

there does seem to be missing an end cap for the ball magazine (top tube). is it missing? if missing, you have two options. actually, three.


If you've ever played Paintball Dave's (http://www.paintballdaves.com) (Milwaukee, Wisconsin) indoor, all you can use is PGP's. Some of them are near that vintage with the knurled hand grips.

As for the options of replacing the end cap. Most people replace them with speed loaders (http://www.siegecraft-paintball.com/accessories/massefeeder.htm), which you might want to do. Additionally, people who do replace them often tend to keep their old caps. So you might be able to get one off of them.

For some other random info on PGP's check here (http://www.stockclasspaintball.com/articles/newvsoldpgp.shtml).

And finally for some more intensive upgrades like a rear velocity adjuster, etc. - check here (http://www.geocities.com/madcustoms/).

[BTAutoMag]

wow that shotgun looking thing is a pgp!!!!!! what did you do to it

[banzaimf]

Originally posted by BTAutoMag
wow that shotgun looking thing is a pgp!!!!!! what did you do to it

The "shotgun looking thing" is an old KP series sheridan marker. The p-68, pgp, and kp's all looked pretty much the same for the bottom 2 tubes, with the top tube being different dependong on configuration (ie rock and cock or straight feed).

Palmer may still put out Hurricanes which were semi auto'd versions of the kp series. A little stiff on the pull, but man they shot nice.

[CRog075]

Thanks for the info.