Free Angel IR3???

[puckmaster]

I was on ebay just messing around and came across this http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1846308786

I think it might be a scam, but i'm curious. I just dont have 10 freakin bucks in my paypal account:(

[UTLadiesMan]

Probably says something like "Call Mike at WDP and tell him you are writing product reviews and would like a free IR3" or something else stupid. :p

[puckmaster]

Ya, Probably. But I'm still curiouse and might do it. but i dont know.

[Miscue]

Sounds like a scam.

"The secret is: Sell 10 tons of our potatoes by next week and we'll buy you the IR3."

Who knows.

[RetroEclipseMan]

If you do this let us know if it's a scam or not. Seems very inticing but a little too good to be true. Luckily it's only $10 so if it is then you're not out over $100 that my stupid dad got scammed out of a few months ago but that's another story.

[Wackomin]

If you look at the his buyers history and the person he bought it for... it seems like a legit system they are using. The guy he bought the idea from has sold about 130 of these ".doc" and has had a good amount of positive response. ..... Oh no i think i'm interested.... stop me please... can't spend money.

[Cliffio]

i'd do it if i had 10 bucks in my paypal account, i mean might as well, it prolly wont pan out but hey, 10 bucks is worth trying i guess


Cliff

[Mossman]

You guys are too gullible :) (sp?)

You gotta head over to the tech boars. So many scams those guys are as sharp as a knife :)

15" LCD screen - 232

DONT GET IT. THE MANUFACTURER CHARGES 234 + SHIPPING IN LOTS OF 100,000, THESE PEOPLE ARE SCAMS! AHHH

lol, that was terrible.

Anyhoo, those dumb info things are all over ebay. Just cuz it has a very very pretty IR3 doesnt make this one any better. Look at the invoice, its for a 10 dollar item. LOL, good job buddy. Anyone can get a reciept for a free 10 dollar item and just hand some dude 10 bucks in cash

[UTLadiesMan]

One of the neutral feedbacks on the guy he bought it from.

"Involves using deception on manufacturers, no real info. Refund given quickly."

[Mossman]

While i know its not a good idea, if we wanna do a AO paypal group buy, I'm in. I've got 2 bucks in my paypal acct burning a hole in my...paypal acct. If you guys wanna send me 8 more I'll buy it and publish it, since i am buying full rights to sell you the info for free right?

[Cliffio]

ok if they are using deception with the manufactors then there is almost no way your gonna get an ir3 for free, thats for sure, tv companies are different but when you call a paintball manufacter your gonna get a real person, and you not gonna be able to fool them like you could a tv company or someone like that

Cliff

[Cliffio]

altho i would like to see how its done, just out of curiosity

[845]

It sounds extremely scam like. If anyone buys it though let us know. Extremely pretty IR3 though.

He does have a lot of positive feedback though.

[cphilip]

Well first of all he has changed his identity and only has one feed back now. Thats a tip off.

Second of all he is violating eBay policy by not selling an actual product. Only the knowledge of how to obtain one.I have turned in many of these guys selling URL's already. And emailed those already bidding on them that they should retract their bids. All of these have been stopped and many of the potential victims have emailed me back to thank me. This one is a scam I should think.

[Mossman]

Phil, is it really against ebay policy to sell info? Jeez, thats like 1/2 of what ebay is!

I'm gonna guess this isnt a scam, but not useful either.

[FutureMagOwner]

they should just look thru and delete all the info ones it doesnt seem like it would be THAT hard after a while it would slow down i would think

though that would be cool if someone bought it and gave it to us :D

[cphilip]

Originally posted by Mossman
Phil, is it really against ebay policy to sell info? Jeez, thats like 1/2 of what ebay is!

Yes but they will not go through and police it. But they will thank you for reporting it and deal with it within a day. They encourage you to report it as its impossible to find them all. My guess is someone reproted him is why he changed his identity.

[irbodden]

I have seen some of these guys with 500+ feedback all positive from selling these things.. I'll chip in two bucks..

[cphilip]

I would not be surprised to find out they each had 500 accounts too... :rolleyes:

[Kaiser Bob]

If this was as easy as it sounds, you would think the info would A. be worth more then 10 dollars and B. not be sold on ebay

[irbodden]

Lets get a fund going here..

2 bucks a person, 5 people...

Come'on!! LOL

[puckmaster]

I'd put in two bucks, IF I HAD TWO BUCKS.

[nutz]

rick put $2 in for me, ill pay u back later

phil its not against ebay rules, he is actually selling a product, hes selling a .doc file!

[puckmaster]

I'll send someone 2 dollers cash if they put in two dollors for me. If somjeone wants to do that, PM me your adress and I'll send it this afternoon.,

[DryIce]

i can put in 2 bucks for me
just gimmie the address to send the money too ;o
ive got 2 bucks waiting and ive always wanted to see how these scams work
Aim me: DrkWtsn

[puckmaster]

I think he only acceps paypal, and maby MO. so we have to pay with paypal.

[cphilip]

It most certainly is against several of their rules:

"Listing Techniques that Circumvent eBay's fee structure
Users may not use systems or techniques to circumvent eBay fees. Some examples include:

Offering in a listing the opportunity to purchase the item or other merchandise outside of eBay"

And:

Catalog and URL Sales
Listings of catalogs from which buyers may directly order items are prohibited. In these situations, the seller will typically offer the catalog for low bid prices and complete sales outside of eBay for items found in the catalog. Old, collectible catalogs (i.e., those that you cannot order from any longer) are permissible. In addition, the sale of URLs that offer buyers the opportunity to purchase items outside of eBay are prohibited.


Also definately violates this:

Listing Policies
Our guidelines for listing items are outlined in the User Agreement. To help users properly list items, we've highlighted some listing policies and describe how we handle listing violations when they are reported to us. Please keep in mind the following policies apply to both the auction-style and fixed price formats.
Proper category listing
Items must be listed in the appropriate category.

Policy: Items that don't belong in a category will be moved to the appropriate category. Item listings that belong in the Mature Audiences category that are found outside of that category will be ended. The insertion fee will be automatically credited for that listing.

Choice Auctions
A Choice Listing occurs when a seller allows buyers to choose from a selection of items. Choice listings can be problematic because of potential for fee circumvention, transactions outside of eBay and other issues.

Policy: Choice Auctions are generally not allowed and will be ended. The insertion fee will be automatically credited for that listing. See also the policy related to “choice travel” certificates.

Exceptions:

Listings may offer custom made items or services that are created or customized to the buyer’s specification such as made to order clothing. Other permitted examples include re-sizing of rings or personalized mailing labels. All offered options must be provided at no additional charge to the buyer. Choice of title in software, books, music or movies is not allowed. Choice of size in pre-made items is not allowed.
Multiple quantity listings (Dutch auction or store) may offer a choice of color in otherwise identical items. However, the seller must be able to fulfill the entire quantity of every listing in any offered color even if every winning bidder makes exactly the same color selection. It is not permissible to state “The highest bidder gets first choice.” Choice auctions may not be offered “subject to availability” or request the buyer to contact the seller to see which colors are available or what quantity is available. This exception for choice of color does not apply to single quantity listings.

[puckmaster]

I was going through his other auctions and found out this "Technique"(SP?) as includes a Freeflow Autococker

[DryIce]

i have paypal

[RetroEclipseMan]

I'll put up $2 on this if we can get and then publish somehow. Count Me in.I'm not interested in whether or not it violates ebay policy i just wanna see if it is something that actually works.

[puckmaster]

Ok. Lets have the people who said they would put in 2 dollers and have them send it to a member we all trust(and has an ebay account) Then when he gets the files, he postes them on AO. Just an Idea

[RetroEclipseMan]

Sounds like a good idea. That member must also have a paypal account.

[Mossman]

I've got a paypal account, ebay account, 2 bucks, and I can be trusted. If anyone wants in Mossman11@rcn.com is the paypal addy :)

[puckmaster]

I vote for Mossman

[DryIce]

ok mossman
here comes 2 bucks :)

[Mossman]

DRY ICE TOOK THE INITIATIVE!

lol...need 6 more plus some change for all the paypal fees. I literally had 2 dollars even in there before dry ice's 2...now i have... 3.64.

Every 2 bucks is only 1.64 after fees :(

need like 5 peeple then ;(

[T_Type]

Hey guys, I'll pay for the "info" no problem.. It ends in just over a day so I'll take care of it then.. If anybody wants a copy of the "info", e-mail me at: tdubois6@comcast.net and when I get it I'll send it off to you..

[irbodden]

T Type, I'd hold off giving away the info till ya got it...

[T_Type]

Why?? You thinking some law involved or just that I may not get it?? I'm thinking it's most likely cheesy, but hey why not give it a try...

[irbodden]

sent ya 3 bucks man..

[T_Type]

Hey guys, I've gotten a couple of offers to send me some cash.. Don't worry about the money, it's covered.. Plus, that e-mail isn't my Paypal address.. Thanks anyhow, but it's a small investment to be a part of this great group of people..

[Ultimator]

Actually I would halfway believe this. I used to skate (Aggressive Inline) and some companies were so lax that you could call them up and say your frame cracked or something and they would send you a BRAND NEW pair of skates absolutely free. Of course those skates cost about half of an angel IR3 but hey I know it works in some places.

[lillfroboy]

Hey T_Type when ever you get the info please email it to me or what ever cause i need a new TV man because mine fell of my shelf and broke so please email it to me at lillfroboy@yahoo.com


Thanx Man

[puckmaster]

Thanks T-type. When you get the info, could you send me a copy at socialrejectspaintball@yahoo.com .

[Mossman]

T-Type, send me 4 bucks via paypal and I'll have enough. 2 people have already sent paypal cash my way.

Guys, if this is legit, if everyone on AO gets in on it then no one will get anything. Say 1 offer is legit, think about how all the other people who bid on it are gonna share. The people who sent me money want to see the stuff first before I release it to AO. Send me a few bucks paypal at Mossman11@rcn.com to ensure you get to see it!

:)

[puckmaster]

Mossman. When you get the info, You shood hook me up, after all, I found the auction. And I recomended you.

[T_Type]

Mossman, you've got PayPal cash.. I didn't mean to butt in on this post, just thought I could help out..

[Mossman]

Everyone's getting hooked up :) No worries no worries.

[DryIce]

uhmmmmmm
mossman wakeup!
i was one of the ones who sent you some $$
did you ever get the stuff?
anyone get it?
derek@galaxy-pc.com is my email
im getting ready to go to work.. so email me it if you got it ;)

[Mossman]

Hey boys, I just got to check my email from my cousins house in NJ and the money request was there :)

Hold your breath and cross your fingers everyone!

He had a verified paypal account, but it was "New", so he hasnt had any transactions yet....ewww....

Anyhow, i figure we'll have ebay and paypal on our side if he tries anything, and paypal must have some info on hiim to give him a verified account.

Welp, i'll let y'all know when i get the email :)

oh ya, guess what i had last night and this morning for breakfast......PIE

Peach and berry PIE. Country PIE. Mmmm..pie

[FutureMagOwner]

strawberry rhubarb is the best pie you can ever have

[SyntaxError]

let us know, I might be interested...:D

[FutureMagOwner]

if it were real then i would sell it and buy a matrix maybe even a tequila matrix(hey they re released them!)

[T_Type]

Hey guys, I've got a copy of the "info" in my hand.. I need to talk to Mossman first, then we'll do the right thing.. Thanks..

[automag223]

that is what it said under the pic of it...i think u are just getting a little booklet with some pics in it...:D

[irbodden]

I payed 3 bucks for it, can I PLEASE get my copy? :confused:

[lillfroboy]

I would like a copy and if i get the angel im going to sell it and get an E-mag or finish Suping up my mag

[lillfroboy]

E-mail me the info at lillfroboy@yahoo.com


PLEASE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:D


Thanx bro




If you want ill send you 5 bucks

[puckmaster]

Ok, Lets do this. The people that piched in(irbodden, dryice, me, RetroEclipseMan, T Type, )to do like how the lvl ten was realeased. have one or some of us who are willing to test it out, then we will release it to the public AO'ers.

sorry if i left your name if and you paid. just make a post if you paid and i didn't put your name on.

[845]

Willic6398@RCN.com


:)

[irbodden]

No handing it out yet..

Not till the people who payed for it see it..

[rightsidefight]

hey id like to see it...if you want i will pay some money for it...i wouldve chipped in but i didnt see this in time

[Cypres0099]

For the people who have seen it, does it look at all legit? You can atleast say that much.

[Mossman]

It's just a bad techique and a link to a site :).

LOL, my expert opinion says theres a 96.8 percent chance it will be useless. I'm forwarding the info right now, but im away in rural new jersey on dialup, it might take a while. If you should have gotten an email but didnt then PM me here and I'll resend.

OUT!
-Sam

[845]

Thanks for the info :)



*I just read I think this might work if you go about it carefully.*

[Stinger]

Well, any news about it yet?

[HoppysMag]

tell me if it works guys...

[RetroEclipseMan]

I just got the info and I think that the chance a company is going to buy this is pretty unlikely especially with paintball companies. I just hope that if i ever own any kind of company that i never fall into this trap.

[845]

I dont think a pball company wil fall for it but TV or Computer companies might.:eek:

[Cliffio]

ooooook. so who has the info, and how do i go about getting this info

thanks
Cliff

[Curly]

Yeah this definitely sounds kind of interesting, it does sound like you guys are saying its a scam. At least tell us a little about it.

[FutureMagOwner]

if its a scam then just tell us maybe will get a laugh outta it

[ttoad4000t]

LOL, i just got it, it might work, but it takes way to long and im sure %90 of yall would be to lazy to do it (me included)

[FutureMagOwner]

heck for a 1300 or so gun i would do it and sell the damn thing and by myself a tequila matrix(hehehe they making them again)

[ttoad4000t]

Originally posted by 845
I dont think a pball company wil fall for it but TV or Computer companies might.:eek:



he's right...paintball companies are to smart for this.:D

[Curly]

Care to explain?

[lillfroboy]

man will somebody send me the info and ill try it and tell yall if it works :D :cool: :D :D :D :D :D :D



PLEASE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Goldie D Pimp]

Come on people, it's not like you bought secrets to russian nukes or something. I can't believe you're all being so secretive about this. I really didn't care about this to begin with, but after watching everyone be so stingy with it I want to go buy one myself just to post it here. I mean it was what $10? It's not like you invested hundreds or anything!

:rolleyes:

[FutureMagOwner]

see even goldie agrees! we want the info! knowledge is power! Knowing is half the battle(god i forgot the full gi joe phrase)!

[rx2]

I think that the phrase is simply "Now you know, and knowing is half the battle." The other half is trained monkies, by the way...

[puckmaster]

I just got the info today and i'm very :( :( :( :( :(

I went to the url and could find anything about paintball. it is all chinease and japenies companies. ya know, the companys that supply the 99 cent stores?

[Mossman]

Arright fine boys. I'll host it for you.

http://mossman.dynu.com:3000/FreeSystem.doc

[lillfroboy]

thanks mossman

[rightsidefight]

yo i got it an it acctually does werk......

[puckmaster]

rightsidefight, if you understand it, where do you find the Angel IR3 on the www.globalscorces.com. thats the only thing i dont get.

[rightsidefight]

you cant get paintball stuff...it works on other stuff tho...i have a goped on the way.....

[puckmaster]

Thats false advertising! How can he sell it on ebay with the title "How to get: free Angle IR3" and not be able to get the Angel? :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[Curly]

ok well there is definitely some good stuff on that site. I am checking out a 42 inch plasma tv at the moment. I might try this out on another item first before i go and get the tv and like 10 wireless lan cards and some other computer stuff.

[lillfroboy]

i got a mp3player, a portable dvd player, a tv, car subs& speakers, MISC. computer stuff coming so once again THANK YOU MOSSMAN THAKYOU THANK YOU THANK YOU :D :D :D :D :D :D




P.S. I'm going to sell most of it and get an E-mag


YAAAAAAA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Mossman]

Hey the top 2 guys above me.....Send me 40 bucks and I'll send you loads of diamonds. Your not gonna get the stuff. You cant be like...my name is Bif...I work for Bif enterprises a worldwide retail chain out of hicksville, Nebraska. I want to make an order for 10,000 42" 10 grand plasma TVs...but can i get 2 sample units first?

It's not gonna happen :)

[cphilip]

Oh goody! Instructions on how to commit fraud with disclaimers not too! Double talk!!!

[FutureMagOwner]

hey i would be interested in 10000 plasma tvs doesnt mean i can afford it though

[Curly]

Ok well i am a little sceptacle (sp?) too but here is what i think is the best way. Have all the info and make it sound legit. Then tell them that your business is looking to get into the _______ market and that you would like to get a sample of their product to test and make sure it is what you are looking for, also if you offer to pay shipping then you will probably be more likely to get it. I havent tried anything yet and i would like to see what responses other people have gotten before i try and go get a bunch of stuff.

[marley618]

Has anyone recieved free stuff yet? I'm thinking about trying it out. Let me know what you got. If you got anything I want to talk to you on AIM, my screen name is marley618.

[lillfroboy]

i got an mp3 player all i did was follow the instructions and when they emailed me back i said that i would pay the shipping and also you have to give them exact details about your "business":rolleyes:

[theraidenproject]

Back from the dead! How did it work for those of you who tried it? lilfroboy - I know you got your mp3 player, but did you get anything else you said was on the way? I am thinking of doing the system, but actually making a business out of it, because I have a lot of free time, and it sure beats a summer/after school job.

[Dragoon]

I'm not sure how you can justify this as not being fraud.

If your not what you say you are in order to get free stuff you are commintting fraud.

Please stay away from this guys. If nothing else keep it off this site. It is truly distasteful.

Douglas

[agdemagman69]

LOLOLOLOL i tried it and i got a portable cd player.... seriously

[HoppysMag]

i agree with Dragoon but its still pretty cool!!:D

[BTAutoMag]

BrEaKcYcLe had a deal going through on some subwoofers but we gave up in trying to get in when we found out that when we agreed to pay shipping on it... it was 75$

i saw "we" because we both have an account and we are both trying

[BTAutoMag]

hey whats your businesses name?

i'm manager of sales at Brunswick Inc.:D

[lillfroboy]

I'm Owner & Head Manager of Brasstown Group

[warpfeedmod]

it's a fraud..I bought one for $5 on another auction...

same site he linked too..I signed up for the email.com account, and if you'll notice, he (the guy selling this info) only reccomends overseas companies....mainly because it's harder for them to get product back should they claim you gave them false information.

I started small just like he said with a few companies and ordered some pocket knives, etc...havn't gotten anything yet, but if I do I'll letcha know..