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Butterfingers
08-20-2002, 11:28 AM
I have come to the conclusion that Red loctite is PURE sin.

After multiple blowtorch applications, a vice and a 10 inch wrench and alot of cussing I finally seperated the QD fitting from a brass elbow.

Arrg is teflon tape from now on.

RTMAGBOY13
08-20-2002, 11:32 AM
yea i spose that would be i bit troubling but would u rather have it on there or would u rather have it leaking?

Butterfingers
08-20-2002, 11:37 AM
My teflon tape connections NEVER leak

You just gotta use the good yellow stuff that is made for gas fittings.

Snewk
08-20-2002, 11:38 AM
Hahaha Butterfingers I can imagine you sitting there blow torching and cursing. Reminds me of one time when my sisters car broke down and my dad punched out the window and said a rock broke it. I use teflon tape, why? Because I fear loctite. :p

Thordic
08-20-2002, 11:38 AM
All this paintball knowledge and you don't know your loctite? Jeez...

You should ONLY use Loctite 545 on pneumatic fittings. Not the red 242 or whatever. 545 ONLY.

angelKiller16
08-20-2002, 11:41 AM
it shouldn't be "that" hard to take off, but it does bring a funny picture to mind.... lol. ok well then i think i may have to use red loc-tite to secure my elbow to my valve for the QD because it is constanlty leaking and i have tried everthing else.

nutz
08-20-2002, 11:41 AM
im afraid of loctite too..

Butterfingers
08-20-2002, 11:42 AM
Hey it was the only thing I had laying around at the time :)

FrAuStY
08-20-2002, 11:44 AM
Well crafstman and permatex both make a pnuematic sealant, it comes in a small tube and it's like teflon paste that will cure after 10-12 hours. Design for use with HPA and H20 applications. Got some in my tool box as loctite was designed for engines..and machines ;)

lopxtc
08-20-2002, 12:02 PM
*L* Try the green loc-tite sometime :) Did that once by mistake.

Aaron

Jack & Coke
08-20-2002, 12:07 PM
Loctite = Superglue + Red food coloring

ShooterJM
08-20-2002, 12:59 PM
Hmmm I use teflon tape or an always wet airhose thread sealent. Both work well. I've had the same experience as butter with red loctite. Only at a field. Sat there for like an hour with a lighter and half burned fingers cursing up a storm!;)

Thordic
08-20-2002, 01:25 PM
Loctite is NOT just made for engines. Loctite makes something for just about any application you could need it for.

Loctite 545 is high-pressure pneumatic/hydraulic sealant.

It is reddish-purple, and smells vaguely like grape motor oil.

It is also rated to seal threads up to something like 10,000 lbs of pressure.

It's an anaerobic sealant, and it also non-locking.


You only fear what you can't understand. If you did a little research and learned you LocTite, you would be much better off.

(By the way, any electronic gun with a solenoid valve should NEVER have teflon tape on it. Timmys, Impulses, etc. Bits of teflon have a nasty habit of getting into the 'noid and causing havoc.>

jeffremiller
08-20-2002, 01:29 PM
Grape Motor Oil?

Does it come in flavors :)

J_

ShooterJM
08-20-2002, 01:31 PM
Yeah, well, it wasn't my mag. The main reason I don't use the stuff is I've always had teflon and liquid sealent laying around. Actually went to look for some at the local hardware store and they didn't carry it.

xmetal2001
08-20-2002, 03:26 PM
I love teflon tape, no really, i do its great.

I've yet to come across a problem that can't be fixed with either ducttape or teflon tape.

MikeCouves
08-20-2002, 04:50 PM
Yeah why would you wait for it to dry? Pssh just use teflon tape works like a charm and easily removed.

sygyzy
08-21-2002, 01:44 AM
Originally posted by Thordic
Loctite is NOT just made for engines. Loctite makes something for just about any application you could need it for.

Loctite 545 is high-pressure pneumatic/hydraulic sealant.

It is reddish-purple, and smells vaguely like grape motor oil.

It is also rated to seal threads up to something like 10,000 lbs of pressure.

It's an anaerobic sealant, and it also non-locking.


You only fear what you can't understand. If you did a little research and learned you LocTite, you would be much better off.

(By the way, any electronic gun with a solenoid valve should NEVER have teflon tape on it. Timmys, Impulses, etc. Bits of teflon have a nasty habit of getting into the 'noid and causing havoc.>

545 is great if you can FIND it! Trust me I have looked high and low. And no, I don't have a NAPA around me BlackVCG :)

Tron
08-21-2002, 02:22 AM
I used the pink tape and it looks exactly like the work AGD did on my fittings. And I tried ripping it and its nothing like the white crap you use on plumbing it doesnt tear at all.

-Tron

Potatoboy
08-21-2002, 02:31 AM
Anyone ever notice that most 1/8 NPT connections are airtight without any kind of sealant? After all, it's speced that way...

:D

Tron
08-21-2002, 02:39 AM
Originally posted by Potatoboy
Anyone ever notice that most 1/8 NPT connections are airtight without any kind of sealant? After all, it's speced that way...

:D

ya but it moves around.

-Tron

S14-Racer
08-21-2002, 02:50 AM
And thats where red loctite comes into play!

Just-kidding I have a nearly destroyed (now) ss hose that I wanted the 90's off of that were put on with red loctite.. Needless to say I had to buy more 90's. I usually use either the water (pink) teflon tape or the wimpy blue loctite. The blue (cant rem the code) seals good but is too weak for me it seems.

.

Thordic
08-21-2002, 07:22 AM
Loctite 545 can be found at Grainger.

www.grainger.com

Now you have no excuses :)

FalconGuy016
08-21-2002, 07:27 AM
Use loctite blue,

its not impossible to come off

Thordic
08-21-2002, 08:14 AM
Originally posted by FalconGuy016
Use loctite blue,

its not impossible to come off

True, but it's also not rated for sealing high pressure systems.

FalconGuy016
08-21-2002, 08:27 AM
I didnt know that

misfit
08-21-2002, 03:06 PM
use loctite pst 567 it is a thread sealant, not a locker works great it is white and kinda like tooth paste, doesnt not get hard comes off easy

http://www.loctite.com/pdf/threadsealing.pdf

sygyzy
08-21-2002, 07:48 PM
So what's the final word here?

What I think is ideal is a thread sealant (not LOCKER), that is designed for pneumatic applications. Also one that resembles the stuff you get on macroline fittings - you know the white/brown pasty stuff. That stuff is PERFECT. Loctite 545, 592, 567, what gives?!

FutureMagOwner
08-21-2002, 08:30 PM
huh my tippmann is completly sealed with red locktite and i have no problem taking things off :confused: no of my other stuff has locktite or teflon(except my mag) i think(havent seen any form of sealants on my cocker and no leaks at all!)

puckmaster
08-21-2002, 08:36 PM
Red loc-tite is strong, but not strong enough to beat an Automag.

nothing can beat a 'Mag. :D

misfit
08-21-2002, 11:12 PM
i worked in the firepump industry for two years (make the pumps that goes in the trucks) use 567 we used it on every fitting air water, the works, it is great

Thordic
08-21-2002, 11:22 PM
545 is a liquid that dries. It doesn't lock the threads, though, they come loose easily.