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56kSomeGuy
11-01-2002, 06:39 PM
Countypaintball e-mailed me this about pb markers in NYC check it out and sign to save pb in NYC even though i live in FL i still care:) http://www.petitiononline.com/pb101/petition.html

DON'T FORGET TO SIGN!
Ov3rmind
11-01-2002, 06:58 PM
I signed this earlier when I saw it on PBNation.

And just like I said on PBNation, I encourage EVER SINGLE MEMBER of AO to sign this.
magman007
11-01-2002, 07:07 PM
im number 679
Spray Painter
11-01-2002, 07:12 PM
i signed:) 688 all the way...
spazzed
11-01-2002, 07:14 PM
signed up. Hope it helps :(
HoppysMag
11-01-2002, 07:26 PM
im # 700!. from what i understantd though is internet petitions are worth jack, but it cant hurt right...:confused:
petefol
11-01-2002, 07:32 PM
yeah, internet petitions are very ineffective. if 600 of the people that have signed it all wrote letters to politicians in new york it would make so much more of an impact.
ICOM
11-01-2002, 08:23 PM
Everyone sign it for the heck of it, couldn;t hurt. I live in NY so help, :(
Mango
11-01-2002, 08:43 PM
751 :D
56kSomeGuy
11-01-2002, 10:09 PM
sign up and you might make a difference
FordPrefect
11-01-2002, 10:18 PM
I'm number 797.



Does anyone have the e-mail of the supporter of the bill?
pbguy888
11-01-2002, 10:58 PM
Number 817
RRfireblade
11-01-2002, 10:59 PM
818. Keep it going,maybe SOME one will take notice.

Jay.
Fatjon
11-02-2002, 10:37 AM
:cool:
56kSomeGuy
11-02-2002, 02:56 PM
keep the signatures comming!
Ov3rmind
11-02-2002, 03:15 PM
Yeah, we've hit 1000!
56kSomeGuy
11-03-2002, 10:47 AM
come on ppl lets take this up to 2000
Curly
11-03-2002, 01:01 PM
Yes this is definitely a good cause and this made it all worthwhile. Check out the ss.
Jonno06
11-03-2002, 01:28 PM
i just signd it...
Trunnion
11-03-2002, 01:48 PM
jeez, you guys are slow. i'm #101 :D
InfinatyBPS
11-03-2002, 01:53 PM
Originally posted by Curly
Yes this is definitely a good cause and this made it all worthwhile. Check out the ss.

haha, thats great... :)
dcmander
11-03-2002, 04:15 PM
#1404
ogre55
11-04-2002, 04:20 PM
For those of you that are interested in what is actually happening, including the law in NYC and how the Dept. of Consumer Affairs has misconstrued it, check out the following thread.

http://www.automags.org/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=54924

Also, I am number 1640.

Ogre
petefol
11-04-2002, 05:07 PM
guys, if you really care then take the time to write a letter. what do you think is more meaningfull, if the lady gets an email with the link to the online petition, or if even just 100 of the people that have signed write a hand written letter to her, or better yet, 1000 of the people.

heres an example:
"This is LUDACRIS! You incompetent morons need to look over the BILL OF RIGHTS and see that GUNS ARE ALLOWED AND ARE AMERICAN. THIS IS NOT CHINA, AND YOU MUST BE AN ADULT TO HAVE A PAINTBALL GUN. IF THIS LOOKS LIKE A REAL WEAPON TO YOUR, THEN YOU ARE PLAIN STUPID. THESE ARE NOT MACHINE GUNS.... MACHINE GUNS ARE FULLY .... THESE ARE SEMI AUTOMATIC IDIOT. SEMI AUTOMATIC IS NOT A MACHINE GUN- DONT YOU GET IT? MS DYKSTRA- YOU ARE ANALLY RETENTIVE AND NEED TO GET A LIFE *****. FREEDOM OF SPEECH, KISS MY ***."

not only do a bunch of stupid kids end up signing these (i found that example after quickly scanning one of the pages, so there are probably alot of others like it), but it is also over the internet which means that it is very ineffective because all those names might as well be fake. do you really think anyone will take the time to look at all the names, or even read what they have to say?
ogre55
11-04-2002, 05:50 PM
My fellow paintballers:

If you wish to help paintball then I agree, a letter is better than a petition. However, please think before you send out a letter, such as the one petefol posted.

The only thing you will accomplish by sending out juvenile tripe, such as said example, is to set my fellow NYC paintballer and myself back farther than we already are. Exactly what will Ms. Dykstra (the Commissioner of the Dept. of Consumer Affairs) think when she gets 1000 letters with words "idiot", "stupid" and my personal favorite "kiss my ***".

Do you think she will be moved to reconsider her policy based on 1000 letter from what seem to be immature petulent 14 year olds with too much time on their hands?

For those of you who know better, thank you and may the sounds of your pens (and keyboards) be heard resonating in the halls of the NYC Dept. of Consumer Affairs.

For those of you that are contemplating writing a letter based on the example proffered by petefol, I urge you, for the good of the sport, don't. Don't write. Hell, don't speak. You will do more harm than good.

Ogre
Thordic
11-04-2002, 05:52 PM
Originally posted by Trunnion
jeez, you guys are slow. i'm #101 :D

101?

Look who is #4. Oh yeah, it's me :)
ah137
11-04-2002, 05:57 PM
1669 ummm thats good

Hills
TastePAINt88
11-04-2002, 06:05 PM
I made 1673 signatures on that!
polorboy
11-04-2002, 06:34 PM
Even though I do not really play right now I am number 1685! Keep it going guys! This is awsome, we may actualy help if we can get a few thousand people (I don't mean to sound sarcastic but we would need a lot of people, in the thousands, for this to be effective).
Zenwood
11-04-2002, 08:20 PM
I dont' know if this was mentioned in the other thread but, if you want to write an online message/complaint directly to Gretchen Dykstra you can go here (http://www.nyc.gov/html/mail/html/maildca.html).
And please, like ogre55 said, keep it civilized and to the point. There is an option to send the message anonymously. DON'T USE IT! Anonymous complaints are rarely taken seriously.

And for regular mail:

Gretchen Dykstra
Commissioner
NYC Consumer Affairs
42 Broadway
New York, NY 10004

Lets bury this person in (coherent) letters.
SirOssis
11-04-2002, 08:48 PM
It may be of some help if the more eloquent members of AO composed and posted a sort of form letter(or outline) for those who want to write but aren't quite sure on how to put it. Its only going to cost you maybe five minutes and a stamp, but it is far more effective. Lets face it, online petitions are like chain emails. And if they worked, that little girl would have had 6 kidneys by now.